Debunking diet or exercise scams

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We all see lots of "diets" and exercise routines out there that claim wondrous benefits. Some people even post on here to "ask" about them.

PT Barnum said it best: "There's a sucker born every minute!"

DON'T BE THAT SUCKER! Here are a few tips from a web expert on finding real facts and discerning true plans from those that are just scams for money.

1) Testimonials are useless. Testimonials by definition are anecdotal. They provide no true data and you should completely ignore them. If a "diet" site has lots of testimonials, GIANT red flags should go off in your head, one or two is fine, it's good marketing, but if they list testimonials as their main "proof" then click the back button immediately until you are away from that site!

2) Selling something. If the site immediately blasts products for sale right up front, be skeptical. It's fine to sell a product on-line, but many scammers will hit you with the product and the "benefits" like a deluge so that you are weary. Feel good stories and positive results can lul the unweary consumer and desperate person into a false sense of security.

3) Lack of independent clinical trials. Even products or "diets" not needing FDA approval should have clinical trials done, the best and most respectable ones have INDEPENDENT research done, and post those results or links to them for all to see.

4) Lack of "expert" credentials. Many sites will offer up some doctor as a proponent or originator of the idea, concept, diet, or supplement to lend credibility to the item in question. Check for credentials before going forward. If the "expert" doesn't put his credentials right up front, and they aren't valid, and relational to the product. Step back, and think about who's trying to sell you what.

5) Outrageous claims and half truths. Many routines and plans will state half truths and partial facts to back up their claims, don't just take the site on it's word, if a product sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Do your research, check the claims, and confirm that something is at least probable before you spend your cash!

The moral of this post is. Check your facts. There are lots of snake oil salesmen on the internet, be VERY wary of what people tell you!


In the spirit of this post, I'll give you my credentials. And as always, I can provide you with any further info you request if you send me a PM (don't really feel like posting my full resume on here for the world to see guys!)

I am currently the Network Manager for a Managed Services platform. What is that? It means I run a customer facing Web infrastructure that services fortune 500 companies. I.E. I run a website that gives big companies info about their network, and I run all the (75) servers behind the scenes including web servers, applications servers, sql servers, routers, switches, and all the other networking gear.

I have 15 years experience in IT and have been everything from a Help desk support employee to an IT engineering consultant. I have dealt with LOTS of web stuff, including viruses, scams, trojans, web servers, hacking, internal security, email servers...etc. You name it, I've fixed it, installed it, or upgraded it.

Best wishes all!

-Banks
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  • pinksultana
    pinksultana Posts: 162 Member
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    Awesome post Banks! I have definitly been scammed a few dozen times more than id like to recall!!!.I think I have sucker and gullible stapled to the end of my comps IP address or something....

    xxPINK
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
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    weird?! my post didnt show. Did I get my pink slip from MFP and not know it??:laugh:

    One of the negotiating/sales tools that bugs me the most is urgency.

    HURRAY.................1st 100 people get this offer!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Do they think we are idiots? Uh, dont answer that question.:tongue:
  • altazin0907
    altazin0907 Posts: 188 Member
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    bump to read later:flowerforyou:
  • lgolden
    lgolden Posts: 164
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    One of my son's high school teachers is a "before and after" for Hydroxicut (sp). The teacher was actually hired to gain weight as a before picture because he was already a very fit person. So he gained weight, took the before picture and then went back to his regular training and lost the weight and had his "bulk" back with exercise. They then took the "after" picture and well, there was the proof that it works. And...he was paid!!!!
  • eriny
    eriny Posts: 1,509 Member
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    goodmorning all way to but it banks i agree :drinker: im still waiting for someone on p90x who has lost 50 + lbs and 35 and older on p90x to show me tv results (pictures )
  • GIBride01
    GIBride01 Posts: 328 Member
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    Good post, I can't help but think of the hydroxycut commercial with the MD is plugging the product and how much it has changed his life. Then you read the small print and see the MD is a first year resident..ok technically a MD, but your not really allowed to practice medicine yet...not a real doctor yet in my book. So even if it appears like the person has solid creds, ASK, ask about background, training, experience, all of it!
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
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    One of my son's high school teachers is a "before and after" for Hydroxicut (sp). The teacher was actually hired to gain weight as a before picture because he was already a very fit person. So he gained weight, took the before picture and then went back to his regular training and lost the weight and had his "bulk" back with exercise. They then took the "after" picture and well, there was the proof that it works. And...he was paid!!!!

    AHHHHHH someone ELSE who knows this!!! I hate being the naysayer........but a friend of mine who is a body builder (moderate not extreme...kinda looks like eriny:blushing: )

    Anyway, he had ME take a before and after picture. As embarrased as I was I was shocked at what stance, and camera angle could do.

    So I was in Biggest Loser style clothes with no makeup, hair lifeless. I didnt smile. looked straight at the camera with arms hanging by my side. slouching SNAP

    Then I stood sideways a bit, with my leg out front. tummy in, shoulders back, hand on hip, smiling with my head held high SNAP

    Lost 15 pounds in 5 minutes!!!!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • eriny
    eriny Posts: 1,509 Member
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    also no gym rat results have been from about 30 min m-f
    up in till about 2 weeks ago 45 cardio,ab class at ymca m-w
    but i must confess :embarassed: ........................................................................................i am a MFP junkie :drinker:
  • eriny
    eriny Posts: 1,509 Member
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    u
  • eriny
    eriny Posts: 1,509 Member
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    wowooww :blushing: :blushing: thank you :flowerforyou:
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
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    I truly, in my heart of hearts, feel this is the reason for America's obesity problems. If you do not learn how to eat and exercise, you will never be healthy. Period.

    I am not at my ideal weight, but I am no longer tempted by the products out there. If I want to lose this last 15 it is going to be by SMART eating and MORE exercise.

    If I choose not to exercise more, then I will enjoy my size 8's and quit my b+itchin.

    The ONLY way is through diet and exercise. If you take a pill, then eat 1200 cals and exercise for 30 mins a day.............you have done what I have done, sans the chemical in your body and the jitters!!

    :flowerforyou: Jeannie
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
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    also no gym rat results have been from about 30 min m-f
    up in till about 2 weeks ago 45 cardio,ab class at ymca m-w
    but i must confess :embarassed: ........................................................................................i am a MFP junkie :drinker:

    I love the progression pix of you doing those mega leg lifts.............dang Eriny!!

    I just started doing hip pulses each night for lower abs and I cant get 1 inch off the ground. :laugh:
  • eriny
    eriny Posts: 1,509 Member
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    also no gym rat results have been from about 30 min m-f
    up in till about 2 weeks ago 45 cardio,ab class at ymca m-w
    but i must confess :embarassed: ........................................................................................i am a MFP junkie :drinker:

    I love the progression pix of you doing those mega leg lifts.............dang Eriny!!

    I just started doing hip pulses each night for lower abs and I cant get 1 inch off the ground. :laugh:
    well i will tell you that (dragon flag ) thats good kneelifts bends ,lifts w 10 lb ball good also buttttt the hip pulses and some other forms for abs in the class i now take 15min by the way :indifferent: wow very hard and intense from that class found out real quick i need a lot more work (and why a lot of guys dont do classes with cardio/ab/Pilates ) those ladies are killing me :blushing:
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
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    you guys wanna room? :tongue: :laugh:

    oh relax, I'm just joshin!
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
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    you guys wanna room? :tongue: :laugh:

    oh relax, I'm just joshin!

    :huh: wanna watch?

    :laugh: :laugh:
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
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    you guys wanna room? :tongue: :laugh:

    oh relax, I'm just joshin!

    :huh: wanna watch?

    :laugh: :laugh:

    I have cameras! We could make a mint!:laugh:
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
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    you guys wanna room? :tongue: :laugh:

    oh relax, I'm just joshin!

    :huh: wanna watch?

    :laugh: :laugh:

    I have cameras! We could make a mint!:laugh:

    LOL...I cant find my get a room sign.......
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
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    http://www.dietitian.com/calchelp.php

    I just stumbled upon this site and thought it was pretty cool. I pretty much do what it suggests, but I wish I had it when I started.
  • eriny
    eriny Posts: 1,509 Member
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    camera , room , what did i miss :(
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
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    camera , room , what did i miss :(

    you got recruited unwittingly into soft core porn. Blame AWTY, she's always the troublemaker. LOL! but we'll make money off it at least. :glasses: <-- my director sunglasses. AAAAND ACTION!