I don't understand what is happening, help!

seasonalspice
seasonalspice Posts: 17 Member
edited November 9 in Health and Weight Loss
I am finding myself in a dilemma with weight loss for the last two weeks...!

For background info: since January 2nd I eat 1200-1500 NET calories everyday, drink over 60 oz of water, eat 5-6 servings of fruits and veggies (in addition to other food too, obviously), and exercise at least 30 minutes minutes six days a week. I have a day where I rest from exercise and allow myself more calories (although, not a binge). I am 23 years old, 5'3 and 183 pounds. I have a body fat percentage of 38%.

Week 1: I lost 4 pounds.

Week 2: I lost 2 pounds.

Week 3: I went up two pounds and down two pounds every other day. Gained 2 pounds. Doubled my exercise.

Week 4: No weight budge. Lost a pound and maintained for two days. Gained 2 pounds overnight when I weighed myself. Lost 1.2 inches in waist. Made sure to do a different exercise everyday.

I am very frustrated because I weigh myself everyday at the same time wearing my underwear...but my weight has been doing something bizarre to me for the last two weeks! My eating and exercise have become habit now. However, gaining weight instead of at least maintaining or losing weight is very harsh on me.

Help!

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  • DirrtyH
    DirrtyH Posts: 664 Member
    It's *really* hard - believe me, I"m not totally practicing what I'm preaching right now, but you've got to stop weighing yourself every day. No more than once a week - pick the same day and time every week. Weight fluctuations of up to 5 lbs a day are normal.
    You did mention that you lost an inch - focus on that more than the pounds. A pound could be anything - it could be muscle you've built up through exercise, it could be water weight, it could really be anything. But that inch means you've lost fat. It's going to fluctuate and you may have weeks where you don't lose any, or where you even gain a pound, but if you watch the overall trend you will lose over time. Losing weight is seriously just a big mindf*ck. You have to learn not to overthink it.
    I'm fighting that battle right now. It's hard. Just stick with it and eventually you'll see it. 6 lbs in two weeks is awesome! Be proud of yourself.
  • lambertj
    lambertj Posts: 675 Member
    Just an idea, try to lower your daily carbs and up your protein, try to balance them more. I see a big gap in them on your diary. If you eat 100 grams of carbs, try to eat a 100 grams of protein. This tip was given to me by a reputable trainer and it really has helped me. I keep my daily carbs and protein around 110-130 (PS...MFP has the protein levels way too low). Good luck to you
  • jenlb99
    jenlb99 Posts: 213 Member
    Are you taking measurements?

    I weigh in once a week, and this week shows a 1 lb gain -- which would have discouraged me had I not taken measurements. Yes, I gained a pound BUT I lost 1.5 inches off my waist and 1.5 inches off my hips this week. I'll take inch loss over a number on the scale any day!!

    I agree with the 100 g of protein minimum per day; you definitely don't want to lose muscle mass. There are a lot of decent tasting protein shakes that are sweetened with stevia (so they have a low carb count).

    The bottom line is that you're doing everything right, so keep doing it. Your body might need some time to adjust, but keep your momentum going -- and stay off the scale!! Once a week is plenty.
  • seasonalspice
    seasonalspice Posts: 17 Member
    I lost 1.25 inches in week 4. I began losing size when I began gaining weight. I would love to become smaller and lose weight. I'm not going to give up, but the advice on things to change is helpful.

    I will check out some protein supplements. That is an idea I hadn't thought of!
  • I agree with trixieloo, you can't weigh yourself everyday and focus on the inches you lose and how your clothes are fitting.

    also, it sounds like you are eating wonderful. and we all know that becoming healthy and losing weight is 70% diet and 30% exercise. something you may want to look into is what you are eating and WHEN you are eating it. I'm no expert, but do some research on what you should eat before and after your workouts. Personally I try to eat protein before and good carbs after(mixed berry smoothie with added protein supplement) and for dinner, before going to bed I try to stay away from sugar and carbs, my plate is mostly filled with veggies with a side of protein and/or carb.

    I hope that helps!

    good luck!
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
    Repeat after me: The scale is not my friend...

    Read this:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/470367-tips-for-newbies
  • ASPhantom
    ASPhantom Posts: 637 Member
    First, relax.

    It sounds like you are on the right path, eating healthy, and excercising are the way to do it.

    It always seems to do this. In fact, I have been stuck for the last month, same weight. Still working hard and eating well but stuck.

    It's ok. Keep up the effort, don't get discouraged and it will keep dropping. Even if slowly.

    Hang in there!
  • I totally feel you pain and am discouraged as well. I have been at this hard for one month, eating well and gym three days a week. My husband said he can not see "any" difference and I cant either. The scales are not moving... I am very upset ! I read all the replies and I hope you guys are right ! :sad:
  • seph_house
    seph_house Posts: 101 Member
    i agree with the comments above about carbs v's protein, or at least the bread/pasta/rice types of carbs which i know make *me* bloat quite a bit (not that this stops me, i just know to expect it:) Also, have you looked at your sodium levels? i only glanced quickly through your diary but there seemed to be a few restaurant/takeout meals in there which, even if low cal counts can be quite high in salt which will make you retain water too which can definitely lead to some wild lb swings. finally, was it your time of the month in week 4? that's another killer for making you swing upwards a few lb in water weight.

    for me, personally, i prefer to weigh most days and just after i get up. but i'm also very comfortable with the fact that the numbers will swing up and down through the week and i've been watching them swing fot the last 6 months and i know the trend is downwards so i find it interesting to watch :) if it messes with your head to see the fluctuations, then stop it and don't watch :D check back in in a week, or two, or four. and keep an eye on the measurements instead. or do some sort of fit test in the exercise of your choice, and then do that again in a month and see how much better you are.

    you're doing awesome already, just keeping track and doing all that exercise for a whole month is an achievement! unfortunately, most of us are here for the long haul and success is measured in months and perseverance rather than weeks. but the reward is knowing (and hopefully loving) your body so much better :)
  • mcrowe1016
    mcrowe1016 Posts: 647 Member
    A woman's body goes through monthly cycles concerning weight and water retention. Only after two or three months will you get used to your body's natural variations through the weeks.
  • seasonalspice
    seasonalspice Posts: 17 Member
    The scale isn't bothering me, I think it is more I am bothered because this has been completely different from my weight loss in the past. In the past, I had no problem consistently losing weight (even on my period). This time has just been very different because my weight has fluctuated a lot. I used to lose .2-.4 pounds every day or so and/or a steady 2 pounds over a week.

    We find ourselves eating out a lot because my husband is in grad school and I'm teaching full-time. To add insult to injury...we don't have a silly dishwasher in this apartment!!! In the past two weeks, we have started talking about making freezer meals on the weekend when we aren't so busy to reduce the dish load and so we aren't eating out.
  • not sure if it's a good idea to weigh yourself everyday...maybe once a week could be better for you, so you've had a decent amount of time to compare your results.
    i dont have scales at home but only weigh myself occasionally (during fitness tests) as a guideline (using same set of scales).
    going by body measurements and how your clothing fits are just as good to begin with...well for me anyway :smile:
    keep up your good work though...you're doing well. sometimes we don't always see instant results when we know we try our hardest - and thats not just with losing weight either. :wink:
  • ccmccoy09
    ccmccoy09 Posts: 284 Member
    I lost 1.25 inches in week 4. I began losing size when I began gaining weight. I would love to become smaller and lose weight.

    So wait, you ARE getting smaller? If that's the case, even if the scale isn't moving fast enough (or some weeks not at all), I say stick to what you're doing. Maybe you're building new muscles!

    What's more important, a smaller figure that everyone notices when they look at you, or a smaller number on a scale that only you see?
  • Drsmh
    Drsmh Posts: 11 Member
    Thanks for your note. I wondered about my "suggested" protein level. I am getting a red negative almost daily but I am not totaly wolfing down piles of protein.
  • seasonalspice
    seasonalspice Posts: 17 Member
    I weigh myself everyday, but only write down the weight every Monday morning. When I say that I gained or lost that was almost on that day.

    Week 1: 4 pounds lost
    Week 2: 3 pounds lost.
    Week 3: 2 pounds gained.
    Week 4: 2 pounds gained.

    Weighing myself has helped me see how much sleep affects my weight which I didn't realize so much before...it also helps me be nicer to myself because I realize I am fluctuating and that 2 pounds isn't the end of the world when I weighed two pounds less the day before. I could see where that would do the opposite for other people. What is bothering me though is it is showing I gain every week because my weight is fluctuating and it's annoying I am basically gaining back all of the weight.
  • seasonalspice
    seasonalspice Posts: 17 Member
    @ ccmccoy09

    I am losing size, but gaining weight. I am going to keep it up regardless, but I realize that I need to do something a little different. The protein suggestion has been great.
  • jhungate
    jhungate Posts: 95 Member
    Less carbs, more protein and DO NOT WEIGH YOURSELF EVERY DAY. :)
  • Be careful with protien suppliments as many of them have sugars in them. You are better off mixng plain greek yogurt with nuts. If the yogurt is too tart for you, add a splash of cinnamon & some sweet berries like raspberries or other sweet fresh (not canned) fruit.
  • hwesp
    hwesp Posts: 17 Member
    I agree with the suggestions of weighing yourself once a week (a trick my nutritionist taught me). I also agree with the increased protein. One thing I didn't see anybody ask was what type of exercise are you doing? Is it cardio? Walking? Weights? 30 minutes or more cardio 5x a week is a good goal (but you may have to work up to it) for weight loss. I really like the elliptical for cardio but also do water aerobics and the occasional aerobics DVD. Good luck!
  • jlc1243
    jlc1243 Posts: 272 Member
    The first month or so I had a similar experience. While I didn't gain any weight, I would lose one week, stay the same, lose the next week, etc. for the first 4-6 weeks. and my losses were similar to yours. then something happened and it evened out to about 1.5 lbs a week for a while (now it's less).

    This was strange to me too, because when I lost weight before it was always very consistent. But I think b/c I had more emphasis on workouts early onm where as I hadn't before it took a while for my body to really know what was going on.

    Defintely keep doing what you are doing....it'll all pay off in the long run!
  • skinnyack
    skinnyack Posts: 683
    I didn't lose anything my first three months (well the same 3 lbs over and over) I was working with a trainer and finally around month 4 I learned the right combo of food for me and had enough muscle mass built to start to burn that fat. I weigh everyday just as I am curious about how sodium blips, sleep ,etc makes me fluctuate- it doesn't depress me and keeps me motivated. Good job for taking measurements at the beginning. Give it another month and see what happens before you start tinkering too much. Remember our bodies urge is to stay the same... just keep truckin' and you'll get there!
  • Captain_Tightpants
    Captain_Tightpants Posts: 2,215 Member
    If as you say this is completely different to the way you've lost weight in the past I would recommend you visit your gp and get your insulin and thyroid levels checked.
  • mountainviewlake
    mountainviewlake Posts: 3 Member
    This article from a thread sometime back answers your wuestions about the weight gain and all you ask about .... It explains why you gain weight And/or go up and down fot a few weeks .... Long article but very helpful

    Living With Obesity At 700 Calories Per Day!
    By: David Greenwalt

    I want you to consider a common female client. She's a woman about 5'5" and 185 pounds. A combination of a mostly sedentary lifestyle, quick-fix, processed foods and consistent excessively low calories has resulted in an incredibly stubborn fat loss scenario. Not only has it created a stubborn fat loss scenario but her ability to add body fat is remarkably strong.

    Most would believe there is simply no possible way she could be 185 pounds eating mostly low calories. While it's true the average obese American created their own obesity by being a huge over consumer, a sedentary glutton if you will, many are able to maintain their level of obesity with the following formula in very precise ratios: starvation + binges + sedentary lifestyle.

    An initial review of this woman's calories indicates she is just above starvation level in the 400-700 per day range. The food choices are mostly protein in this case (low-carb is all the rage you know) and there are virtually no vegetables or fruits to speak of.

    Five or six days per week the calories remain low in this range, however, there are nighttime binges from time to time and weekend binges where carbs loaded with fat (doughnuts, rolls, cookies, pizza etc.) are consumed.

    So while the calories are very low the majority of the time, there are one to two days per week where this isn't always the case. Even so, the nighttime binges and weekend slack offs don't amount to what you might presume would be thousands of extra calories, thus explaining the 185-pound body weight.

    Very few foods are prepared from home. There are lots of fast foods being consumed. Convenience and taste rule.

    I must say. Early on in my coaching and teaching career this woman was a real head scratcher for me. Isn't it calories in and calories out? Even if she's not active she's starving!

    How in the heck does she stay at 185 eating an average, including all binges, of maybe 750 calories per day? She's frustrated beyond belief. She sees her friends and coworkers eating more and weighing less. Is she simply unlucky? Is everyone else blessed? And what in the world is she supposed to do to fix this, if it can be fixed?


    Why Is She Not Losing Weight?


    First, let me tell you why she's not losing weight. Then I'll tell you what she has to do to fix the situation. With a chronic (months and months) intake of less than 1000 calories per day and a 185-pound body weight her metabolism is suffering greatly. It's running cool, not hot. It's basically running at a snail's pace.

    Think of it this way. Her metabolism has matched itself to her intake. She could, indeed, lose body fat but she's in that gray area where she is eating too few calories but not quite at the concentration-camp level yet.

    If she were to consume 100-300 calories per day her body would have virtually no choice but to begin liberating stored body fat. This is NOT the solution. It's unhealthy and, in fact, quite stupid.


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    Not only has her metabolism matched her intake, her body has maximized production of enzymes that are designed to help store any additional calories as fat. Anytime additional, immediately-unnecessary calories are consumed the enzymes are there and waiting to store the additional calories as fat. Her body is starved nutritionally and it has one thing on its mind - survival.

    Being mostly sedentary, her metabolism (hormones play a large role here) can do a pretty good job of keeping things slow enough so that the pathetically low calories she's consuming are just enough to maintain.

    But since certain enzymes are elevated, waiting for more calories so more bodyfat can be stored, every nighttime binge or weekend mini-feast will contribute to fat stores.

    So on the days she's not bingeing her body does not lose fat, or if it does, it's very little. And on the few days or times she does binge a bit her body is quite efficient at storing fat. So, while she may lose a smidge of fat from starving it is quickly replaced with every binge.

    Remember, these binges aren't a gluttonous 4000-calorie feast. Oh no, a binge might be 4-5 cookies worth about 500-700 calories. Nevertheless, since the binge foods are mostly carbs and fat it's very easy for the enzymes to shuttle the dietary fat into stored body fat. It's what they were designed to do.


    So, What's The Solution?


    Well then, now that we presumably know some valid reasons why she's not seeing a scale change and definitely no body fat change how do we fix her? We have to do something she's going to freak out over.

    We have to get her eating more. Not only do we have to get her eating more but more of the right, whole foods need to be eaten. Foods lower in fat that aren't as easily STORED as body fat have to be consumed. And we have to warn her.

    A Discouraging Start


    We have to warn her that since she's been sedentarily living on protein with binges of carbs and fats she is likely to see a weight gain right away. It's true.
    Once we begin really feeding her body with nutritious carbohydrates so she can become more active, her glycogen-depleted body will hang on to some of those carbohydrates (in skeletal muscle and liver) so she has stored energy for activity.

    When her body hangs on to those carbohydrates it has no choice but to hang on to more water too. For every gram of glycogen (stored carbs) she stores she'll hang on to three grams of water.

    This is not a negative response by the body but it will be interpreted by her as quite negative when she steps on the scale.

    It's quite likely she'll see a five to seven pound weight gain when she really starts eating properly again. This weight gain will remain for one to three weeks before it starts moving in the other direction.

    For argument's sake let's assume my Calorie Calculator and Goal Setter at Club Lifestyle suggests a 1500-calorie per day average in week one for a one-pound loss per week. First, she is going to freak out about this many calories.

    For months she's been eating less than 1000 and usually around 400-700 in one to three feedings total per day. To her 1500 calories is a ton of food. And if she even begins to eat less fast and packaged-foods it will be a ton of food.

    There is no doubt whatsoever that she will resist the increase. This resistance may take one to three weeks to overcome. During this period no weight loss will occur. She is too fat already in her mind and believes it will only hurt her to increase her food intake.

    I mean, after all, isn't that how she got fat to begin with? In her early stages of fat gain this was probably true. She overconsumed. But as I've said already, that's not why she's staying heavy.

    In addition to a freaked-out mindset about adding more food to her already overfat body she will simply find that it's all but impossible to eat four or more times per day.

    She's just not hungry at first. Makes sense when you think about it. Why would she be hungry three hours after eating a 300-calorie, balanced breakfast? Her body is used to 400-700 calories per day!

    So, even though she gets a plan and begins using my nutrition analyzer to log foods and meals she finds after having a balanced breakfast of 250 calories she couldn't force herself to eat meal number two on time.

    It'll take several more days of realizing what is going on and being one-hundred percent honest and diligent with her logging and planning before she begins to eat her meals as planned no matter what - even if she's not hungry.

    By now two to four weeks have passed and the only thing she's seen on the scale is it going up--not very encouraging if I say so myself.

    Raising The Grade


    After the first two to four weeks have passed she's probably beginning to consume her meals as planned although not quite like an "A" student yet. That is coming. She feels better because she's working out and is more active.
    And she feels like she has more energy throughout the day because she's feeding her body more calories and the right kinds of calories.

    She has finally begun eating the right kinds of fast foods (low in fat, moderate in protein) and less packaged food overall. She is making more meals from home and taking them to work for lunch rather than always grabbing something quick from a vending machine or the break room that always has some treat another employee brought in.

    After another two weeks or so she's moved from a "B" grade to more consistent "A"s. She's planning her days one day ahead in the Nutrition Analyzer; she's consuming fresh veggies and fruits on a daily basis.

    Her calories are almost ALWAYS in line with what is recommended by my Lean Account and she has seen her first signs of the scale moving in the right direction.

    She is now dropping from 190 pounds (her high after reintroducing food and carbohydrates again) to 189.3! "Progress at last!" she says. In actuality, the entire process was progress. But that's not how she saw it in the beginning.






    With a total of two to four weeks of increased caloric intake behind her and eating more consistently the right kinds of foods her metabolism has truly begun to rebound.

    She didn't kill it as she thought. She only wounded it. And since our metabolisms are like kids (they are quite resilient) and she doesn't have thyroid issues or diabetes or any known wrench that could be thrown into the spokes of fat loss, she will begin, for the first time in months or years, to see results that make sense and that one would expect of someone who is active (30-60 minutes five or more days per week) and consuming a caloric intake of 1300-1500 calories per day.


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    Avoiding Sabotage


    This process is in no way easy. I think you can see a plethora of ways it could be screwed up, sabotaged, given up on too early and so forth.
    A key to success for this very common woman (men too) is not giving up too soon, having faith in the fix, and moving sooner rather than later to the increased, quality food intake.

    It's going to take effort to overcome the mental hurdles of eating more food as well as the increase in scale weight that is going to occur in weeks one to three or so. It's disheartening, however, to charge hard down the weight-loss field only to get to the one-yard line and decide it's time to quit.



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    Many don't realize they only had one more yard to go and they'd have had a touchdown. You gotta hang in there with this plan. It's going to take some time for the glycogen levels to be replenished and level out. It's going to take some time for mental adjustments to occur.
    It's going to take some time before hunger signals are restored to anything close to normal. It's going to take time for the metabolism to rebound and not be in its protective mode.

    Giving A Stubborn Body The Message


    In certain, very stubborn cases, it may be necessary to eat at a eucaloric (maintenance) or hypercaloric (over maintenance) level for a few weeks to ensure the metabolism does get the signal that everything is alright and you aren't going to kill the body.
    Remember, your body could care less about your desire for fat loss. It just wants to survive.


    Some Take-Home Points



    The most common cause of obesity is Americans are sedentary overeaters/drinkers. Nothing in this article should be construed as to say that under eating is the root cause of obesity. It's not.

    It IS common for many men and women to be under eating with sporadic binges as I described here. This creates a perfect environment for continued obesity even if total caloric intake is quite low on average.

    Low-carb followers or "starvers" WILL see the scale go up when calories are consumed at reasonable levels again and carbohydrates are reintroduced. Live with it. Deal with it. It's going to happen. 98% of the gain will be water.

    The time it takes for mental acceptance and other adjustments to occur will vary but one should expect a two to four week window for these things to take place. Being forewarned with an article like this may speed this process up some.

    Once the right types of foods are consumed and the right caloric intake is consumed and the right ratios of carbohydrates, proteins and fats are consumed on a consistent basis, then, and only then, will metabolism begin to be restored and the key to fat loss be inserted into the lock with a noticeable drop in the scale resulting.
    This may take an additional two to four weeks to occur. Your metabolism is never dead or broken for good. But it may take several weeks of proper eating and activity for it to be restored.


    From day one, until the first, noticeable drop in the scale occurs may be four to six weeks--maybe one to two weeks longer. Those who give up on the one-yard line will never see the scale drop as will occur when intelligent persistence and consistency over time are adhered to.
    David Greenwalt
  • seasonalspice
    seasonalspice Posts: 17 Member
    I agree with the suggestions of weighing yourself once a week (a trick my nutritionist taught me). I also agree with the increased protein. One thing I didn't see anybody ask was what type of exercise are you doing? Is it cardio? Walking? Weights? 30 minutes or more cardio 5x a week is a good goal (but you may have to work up to it) for weight loss. I really like the elliptical for cardio but also do water aerobics and the occasional aerobics DVD. Good luck!

    I have been walking (mostly on a treadmill), doing work out videos (taebo), elliptical, and stair mills. I am going to start going to exercise classes again soon, but wanted to build endurance doing so first.

    I am already doing at least 5 x a day. I actually do six. Because time permitted, I was doing 1 hour usually of elliptical and burning pretty good in week 3. In week four, my week was busier so I generally did less exercise.
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