Debunking diet or exercise scams

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  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    whatever Banks

    I forgot.... noone is allowed an opinion that doesnt completely agree with yours

    I will refrain from posting to your threads and hope you have a great day

    peace
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    if someone paid me to give my testimonial that hard work and clean eating has improved my life...would it be useless because I am being paid to say it?

    Only if hard work and clean eating were a product being sold by someone. Then YES it would be useless. Because A) how do I know you are telling the whole truth? and B) If clean eating and hard work were an unknown quantity being sold, then how do I know that you did this, but also breathed in cigarette smoke all day, and maybe THAT improved your life. This is obviously a silly comparison, but see what I mean? Anything based on small samplings of facts from a bias party that is unverifiable cannot be relied upon as a solid source of information!
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    whatever Banks

    I forgot.... noone is allowed an opinion that doesnt completely agree with yours

    I will refrain from posting to your threads and hope you have a great day

    peace

    LOL, wow, really? Dude, you can't post something like that and expect me not to defend my point of view. I'm fine with you disagreeing, but that doesn't mean I can't argue my point.
  • FluffnStuff
    FluffnStuff Posts: 387
    http://www.dietitian.com/calchelp.php

    I just stumbled upon this site and thought it was pretty cool. I pretty much do what it suggests, but I wish I had it when I started.


    LOVE this site...but it has one HUGE flaw... the pages don't print.
    I tried, but all I get are blanks with the website addy. :grumble:
  • JoyousMaximus
    JoyousMaximus Posts: 9,285 Member
    We all see lots of "diets" and exercise routines out there that claim wondrous benefits. Some people even post on here to "ask" about them.

    PT Barnum said it best: "There's a sucker born every minute!"

    DON'T BE THAT SUCKER! Here are a few tips from a web expert on finding real facts and discerning true plans from those that are just scams for money.

    1) Testimonials are useless. Testimonials by definition are anecdotal. They provide no true data and you should completely ignore them. If a "diet" site has lots of testimonials, GIANT red flags should go off in your head, one or two is fine, it's good marketing, but if they list testimonials as their main "proof" then click the back button immediately until you are away from that site!


    -Banks

    I completely disagree with this part

    with all due respect of course

    I don't buy diet products but when I buy any product, I always go to a third party site (amazon, etc) and read the worst customer reviews as well. Then you can find out what people really think of a product. If you can deal with the worst that people say then it stands up to the test.

    I would agree with this. It's a good to have the opinions of real consumers. But they probably shouldn't be your only facts, at least on larger purchases anyway. for something relatively cheap I wouldn't have a problem with going by consumer opinion.

    I meant it in response to that criteria (criterion??). I agree, especially on things involving your health, you should use additional research and reference clinical trials, when available (though, we all know that they can be rather scarce on certain issues).
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    http://www.dietitian.com/calchelp.php

    I just stumbled upon this site and thought it was pretty cool. I pretty much do what it suggests, but I wish I had it when I started.


    LOVE this site...but it has one HUGE flaw... the pages don't print.
    I tried, but all I get are blanks with the website addy. :grumble:

    hmm, trick it! If you use a different type of browser it will print (I use Google Chrome) there are I.E. and Mozilla specific commands that allow them to deny you the ability to print, but using some other browser like chrome, or safari should work (I know chrome works, I just did it)
  • FluffnStuff
    FluffnStuff Posts: 387
    http://www.dietitian.com/calchelp.php

    I just stumbled upon this site and thought it was pretty cool. I pretty much do what it suggests, but I wish I had it when I started.


    LOVE this site...but it has one HUGE flaw... the pages don't print.
    I tried, but all I get are blanks with the website addy. :grumble:

    hmm, trick it! If you use a different type of browser it will print (I use Google Chrome) there are I.E. and Mozilla specific commands that allow them to deny you the ability to print, but using some other browser like chrome, or safari should work (I know chrome works, I just did it)

    Crap, there was a whole lot of nerd talk there :tongue: .... and I am tech challenged.... It's also the schools computer and I don't want to break it my last day here! :laugh:
    How do you do the google thing?
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    http://www.dietitian.com/calchelp.php

    I just stumbled upon this site and thought it was pretty cool. I pretty much do what it suggests, but I wish I had it when I started.


    LOVE this site...but it has one HUGE flaw... the pages don't print.
    I tried, but all I get are blanks with the website addy. :grumble:

    hmm, trick it! If you use a different type of browser it will print (I use Google Chrome) there are I.E. and Mozilla specific commands that allow them to deny you the ability to print, but using some other browser like chrome, or safari should work (I know chrome works, I just did it)

    Crap, there was a whole lot of nerd talk there :tongue: .... and I am tech challenged.... It's also the schools computer and I don't want to break it my last day here! :laugh:
    How do you do the google thing?

    oh well if it's not your computer then I would refrain, they probably frown on you installing stuff on their machines. but if someone else wants it, it's at http://www.google.com/chrome

    it's pretty cool actually, slightly different then Internet Explorer, but still pretty good, very fast too. Renders nicly. A few websites don't work with it though, just an FYI.
  • FluffnStuff
    FluffnStuff Posts: 387
    Dang.... I have Mozilla at home too. :grumble:
    It's a conspiracy!
  • tashjs21
    tashjs21 Posts: 4,584 Member
    Thanks Banks!!!

    I was discussing this with a co-worker yesterday...she has seen what I have done but still keeps reading these websites and looking for the quick fix. :huh: I tell her time and time again that the "quick" weightloss is a mythical thing (quick and keeping it off)

    Oh well, some people will never learn.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    Dave (how are ya today my friend?)

    I feel they are useless because we do not know they are true. If you tell me you burned 200 calories jumping up and down, I would beleive you because what do you have to gain from telling me this.

    As I stated before I have a personal friend who was hired as a before and after for a weight loss supp. He was in beautiful shape:love: when approached. He stopped working out for 1 month, gained 20 pounds, slouched and took befores. They already had the afters because he took them before he gained weight.

    He said that when you are built up, and lean it is easy to gain and then remove it really quickly if all done within a few months. he was paid a few thousand dollars, and free product.

    He then had me stand for before and afters........wish I had them now, and I 'lost' 15 pounds in 5 minutes.

    I am good my friend...how are you?

    so...using this logic then....when someone posts a recipe and says it tastes great or someone posts a method of running and says it worked for them....that is all useless because we dont know if it is true?

    I disagree that all the thousands of posts here from people giving their testimonials about their experiences are usless...I have benefited from some of your tetimonials my friend

    sure...some may be crap and some may be phoney....but I imagine most are true and thus have some benefit and thus are not "useless"

    if someone paid me to give my testimonial that hard work and clean eating has improved my life...would it be useless because I am being paid to say it?

    No no, I feel their testimonials are helpful BECAUSE they are not being paid for telling me so. They have nothing to gain from their advise.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    if someone paid me to give my testimonial that hard work and clean eating has improved my life...would it be useless because I am being paid to say it?

    No no, I feel their testimonials are helpful BECAUSE they are not being paid for telling me so. They have nothing to gain from their advise.
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    Ok now I re-read... If I were being asked to pay you for your experience, then I would want proof that what you are saying is true. A bottle of Hydroxy Cut is what $40-$50?? The girl running through the water is being paid, HC is asking me for $50. I want more proof than a hot chick running in Ft Lauderdale surf, before I give them my hard earned money.

    You know me, and I used a lot of the advise given on this site. Including no more cool whip.
  • eriny
    eriny Posts: 1,509 Member
    not changing the subject but
    banks where is awty and what happened to our soft " movie " ive been all day with my shirt unbuttoned waiting to ...
  • toots99
    toots99 Posts: 3,794 Member

    I don't buy diet products but when I buy any product, I always go to a third party site (amazon, etc) and read the worst customer reviews as well. Then you can find out what people really think of a product. If you can deal with the worst that people say then it stands up to the test.

    I do that same exact thing! :)
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    not changing the subject but
    banks where is awty and what happened to our soft " movie " ive been all day with my shirt unbuttoned waiting to ...

    Sorry E. I had to drive home. LOL
  • annaliza
    annaliza Posts: 809
    not changing the subject but
    banks where is awty and what happened to our soft " movie " ive been all day with my shirt unbuttoned waiting to ...

    LOL, what the heck does that mean?

    shirt unbuttoned waiting to...????

    Oh man, don't keep me in suspense!:bigsmile:

    Banks, thanks so much for the info!! I really enjoyed reading your conversation and debate, too.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    not changing the subject but
    banks where is awty and what happened to our soft " movie " ive been all day with my shirt unbuttoned waiting to ...

    Sorry E. I had to drive home. LOL

    Lol...........you guys crack me up.....:drinker: :drinker:
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