Fruit and vegtables, How do people live without them?

agreed,,, i cant live without my mega fix of veg... some fruit too in a day

It IS madness, but I used to live like that, believe it or not. I eat tons of fruit and veg now, but for years in college and grad school I had the palate of a toddler, and lived, literally, on things like potato chips and pizza (with no veggies on it, of course!). I could go weeks, and possibly months, without any real veg crossing my lips, assuming that you don't count pizza sauce and potato chips as veggies. My only fruit was if I drank a mixed drink with fruit juice!

The maddening part for me is that I was a TWIG back then, and healthy as a horse! haha Ah, youth.

I notice the same thing a lot, but usually don't say anything. They're adults, surely they know what's recommended. I think usually they're just not used to incorporating a lot of fruits, berries, and veggies into their diet. Some may not know how to do it - they might find it too hard to prep veggies, for example. Others may be so used to processed foods they don't like the taste of more natural fare. Not going to lecture them about it

i TOTALLY agree!! i thought i was bad with keeping up with my 5 a day ... i can't believe some people's diets.
i have a piece of fruit with my breakfast, one or even two at lunch, and another in the evening, along with lots of salad at lunch time and veggies with my dinner! i reckon i get about 10 a day or more haha
no idea how people can go without, i'd be so sad.

Totally agree! Vegetables should actually make up a substantial part of your daily intake.

Fruit isn't all that important. Most of it is laden with sugar (All sugar is the same - the body does not distinguish. The fructose in fruit is the exact same fructose in table sugar and HFCS) and had been genetically engineered to be sweeter (i.e higher in sugar/fructose) than it's predecessors. You can get vitamin C and fiber through dark leafy greens (and calcium!).

I can only do fibrous veggies (because they are low in sugar/carbs) and leafy greens (once again low in carbs and very, high in nutrients). I can only tolerate low-sugar berries on occasion. I don't log food because I don't have to count calories to maintain my weight. I control the quantity and quality of my carbs (which come from fruits and veggies) and make sure I eat plenty of protein and fat. In fact - fat is what I eat the most (no PUFA commercial oils here. Only real butter, coconut oil, and animal fats!). I'm maintaining without trying and my health is the best is has ever been.

If you are willing and able to eat the entire animal (at least an animal eating its true diet) then you have no need for fruit or vegetables.

And even "healthy" processed foods are processed - they are still junk. If the ingredient list is as long as the box - it's isn't good for you.

TO each their own, but I won't discontinue the consumption of fruits or veggies. I just love them too much! I figure better my sugar com from a cherimoya than a piece of cake!
And like a PP stated, I sometimes don't log my veggies either. Like I'll have celery or a carrot for a snack, but I don't log it.

Fruits and veggies make me feel more hungry and some give me heartburn. I will eat a banana or drink a V-8 from time to time, but I don't worry a whole lot about it. I just supplement with a multi vitamin and get on with my life.

Okay, so I don't eat fruits and vegetables daily.

So does that make me a bad person, NO, and if you ARE judging me by what I put in MY body then yes, you are being judgmental. Maybe I haven’t experienced eating in this manner because I can tell you that I love MEAT. I am most definitely a carnivore. My B.S. is in animal science and I love every animal walking this earth. That doesn't mean that I want to eat every furry, slithery, jumping, bounding creature that I see, it’s just my preference. I tried being a vegetarian once because of my love for animals and it didn’t last for a full day. I prefer my rabbit food, like lettuce and carrots, to be accompanied by bacon bits and ham and a big juicy t-bone steak. Apparently I may be doing something wrong since I am on this site trying to lose weight. I am all about changing for the better, and everything that I do is most definitely not always right, but when and if I change my diet because its healthier and better for me, I will do so in my own time. Judge that.

Fruit isn't all that important. Most of it is laden with sugar (All sugar is the same - the body does not distinguish. The fructose in fruit is the exact same fructose in table sugar and HFCS) and had been genetically engineered to be sweeter (i.e higher in sugar/fructose) than it's predecessors.

1) Exactly which fruits have been genetically engineered? They have been the subject of selective breeding, in nature, and by humans, but that is different from genetic engineering.

2) It is true that your body eventually breaks all carbs down into glucose, however, the rate at which it does so is different for different chemical compounds, fructose for example, is broken down more slowly than sucrose. There is more recent evidence, that exactly how you cook a vegetable/starch (e.g. a baked vs. boiled potato) influences how much of the starch is digested in the body (see http://www.livestrong.com/article/532408-the-glycemic-index-of-baked-potatoes-vs-boiled-potatoes/ for a popular press article on this line of research). So again, not everything is as equal as might have once been thought.

If you are willing and able to eat the entire animal (at least an animal eating its true diet) then you have no need for fruit or vegetables.

3) Do you have a citation for this, I would love to see it. I'm pretty sure this is true for obligate carnivores (e.g. cats), but I doubt it's true for humans.

4) When was the last time you ate the contents of the digestive tract of an animal that had been eating its natural diet?