Too much protein?
nichole1027
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I know that too much protein can be bad for you, but what constitutes "too much"? Right now I am 5g over with Breakfast and Lunch and I was thinking of drinking a protein drink later this afternoon that has 18g of protein. Does anyone know a good answer for this?
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Good question, I always seem to be over in my protein column as well!! I hope someone has some answers for us!!
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if you do strength training and cardio they say you usually consume around 120g of protein max0
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I know that too much protein can be bad for you, but what constitutes "too much"? Right now I am 5g over with Breakfast and Lunch and I was thinking of drinking a protein drink later this afternoon that has 18g of protein. Does anyone know a good answer for this?
Too much would probably be in the 200+ grams range, probably closer to 300.0 -
MFP's settings for suggested protein consumption are terribly low. Don't stress.0
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I have read that more than 30g at any one time is too much. The body can only use 30g of protein at one time, any excess converts to fat. With this rational, if you are eating 5 small meals a day then you'd want to stay under 150g of protein per day. This is not concrete fact, I just read it in passing in a couple health and fitness magazines. Take it with a grain a salt!0
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Medicinenet.com says this:
Ideally, you should consume 0.36 grams of protein for every pound of body weight, according to recommended daily allowances (RDA) set by the Food and Nutrition Board. So if you weigh 170 pounds, you need about 61 grams of protein each day.
Personally I think that is low. I shoot for 1-2 gm per kilo of body weight.
The 30 gm is a myth also.0 -
if you do strength training and cardio they say you usually consume around 120g of protein max
All depends on your size, there is no set number.0 -
I have read that more than 30g at any one time is too much. The body can only use 30g of protein at one time, any excess converts to fat. With this rational, if you are eating 5 small meals a day then you'd want to stay under 150g of protein per day. This is not concrete fact, I just read it in passing in a couple health and fitness magazines. Take it with a grain a salt!
I consume 125+g of protein daily. I'm 5'4" and 139 lbs.0 -
The MFP settings (for me) are completely inaccurate. I changed mine to 40% protein, 30% carb, 30% fat and easily have 120-150g protein every day.
"too much" would depend a lot on the person (especially if they have liver issues) - but for most people, it would be pretty hard to get too much over any length of time.
Since it's pretty much a waste to consume more than 30g protein at any one sitting, that makes it even harder to have too much. If you're downing protein shakes with 60g protein in them, thats just a waste.0 -
If you have access to one, check with a nutritionist or dietician. That's really the best way to know what your real target number is for protein. The numbers given here are truly estimates. If you don't have access, then just call your doctor instead.
HTH0 -
Medicinenet.com says this:
Ideally, you should consume 0.36 grams of protein for every pound of body weight, according to recommended daily allowances (RDA) set by the Food and Nutrition Board. So if you weigh 170 pounds, you need about 61 grams of protein each day.
Personally I think that is low.
These recommendations are normally for sedentary people. If you exercise at all you should get more than that 0.7 to 1 gram per pound of Lean Body Mass should suffice.0 -
I edited when I realized I didn't complete my thought.
These recommendations are normally for sedentary people. If you exercise at all you should get more than that 0.7 to 1 gram per pound of Lean Body Mass should suffice.Medicinenet.com says this:
Ideally, you should consume 0.36 grams of protein for every pound of body weight, according to recommended daily allowances (RDA) set by the Food and Nutrition Board. So if you weigh 170 pounds, you need about 61 grams of protein each day.
Personally I think that is low.0 -
The MFP settings (for me) are completely inaccurate. I changed mine to 40% protein, 30% carb, 30% fat and easily have 120-150g protein every day.
"too much" would depend a lot on the person (especially if they have liver issues) - but for most people, it would be pretty hard to get too much over any length of time.
Since it's pretty much a waste to consume more than 30g protein at any one sitting, that makes it even harder to have too much. If you're downing protein shakes with 60g protein in them, thats just a waste.
The 30g/sitting is just a myth, there is no evidence to back that up, so go ahead and have your shake with 60g protein if you need it to hit your macros.0 -
This is a good article for this topic.
http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Side_Effects_of_Too_Much_Protein_in_the_Diet
it includes a chart for you to figure out your protein requirements, too.0 -
The answer is there is no set answer. Depends on activity level, what you are doing for said activity level, and goals / what you want to accomplish.
The rule of thumb is if you are cutting and actively working out you want 1.5 * your weight in kilograms. So say you weighed 180 pounds (82 kilo).
So 1.5 * (180 / 2.2) = 123g of protein is your baseline. Some people recommend 2 * (180 / 2.2) = 164g of protein.
Basically you have to have enough to feed your body, it's going to vary from person to person. Days I eat around 250g of protein I do look leaner over time of doing that then if I eat lower. I also don't have near the recovery time from the gym.0 -
I am 5'6" 162lbs, and I eat close to 130g per day when I am active. MFP's recommendation is super low.0
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Since it's pretty much a waste to consume more than 30g protein at any one sitting, that makes it even harder to have too much. If you're downing protein shakes with 60g protein in them, thats just a waste.
Not true, protein get broken down to aminos which can consume more then 30g, then left overs get pumped around til it eventually turns to urea, then excreted but it's a long long process. The 30g is a myth. It all depends on your body's stores and how much it needs to be filled. IF you are actively working out that will be much higher then if you are sedentary.0 -
Since it's pretty much a waste to consume more than 30g protein at any one sitting, that makes it even harder to have too much. If you're downing protein shakes with 60g protein in them, thats just a waste.
Not true, protein get broken down to aminos which can consume more then 30g, then left overs get pumped around til it eventually turns to urea, then excreted but it's a long long process. The 30g is a myth. It all depends on your body's stores and how much it needs to be filled. IF you are actively working out that will be much higher then if you are sedentary.
JR has the right idea. Plus if that was the case than they wouldn't suggest women eat 4-6oz of chicken and same for men. 4.5oz grilled chicken has 38g protein ... I think in there are some people who might not be able to digest protein at a higher rate, but that's like anything. Everyone is different, not all peoples bodies can handle a high protein diet. Some need more carbs, some need more fats.0 -
\Since it's pretty much a waste to consume more than 30g protein at any one sitting, that makes it even harder to have too much. If you're downing protein shakes with 60g protein in them, thats just a waste.
Not true, protein get broken down to aminos which can consume more then 30g, then left overs get pumped around til it eventually turns to urea, then excreted but it's a long long process. The 30g is a myth. It all depends on your body's stores and how much it needs to be filled. IF you are actively working out that will be much higher then if you are sedentary.
I beg to differ and there is plenty of research on the topic.0 -
i follow the 40:30:30 rule, so about 30 percent of my calories is protein (although i dont ever get up to this)....everyone does things there own way and if u want it to be right for u u shud c ur doctor or dietician0
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\Since it's pretty much a waste to consume more than 30g protein at any one sitting, that makes it even harder to have too much. If you're downing protein shakes with 60g protein in them, thats just a waste.
Not true, protein get broken down to aminos which can consume more then 30g, then left overs get pumped around til it eventually turns to urea, then excreted but it's a long long process. The 30g is a myth. It all depends on your body's stores and how much it needs to be filled. IF you are actively working out that will be much higher then if you are sedentary.
I beg to differ and there is plenty of research on the topic.
Wow there is a lot of misinformation in this thread. The 30g of protein per meal rule is a myth. Here is a well-sourced article on the topic.
http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/is-there-a-limit-to-how-much-protein-the-body-can-use-in-a-single-meal/
Bottom line: there is no practical limit to protein consumption in a single meal.0 -
\Since it's pretty much a waste to consume more than 30g protein at any one sitting, that makes it even harder to have too much. If you're downing protein shakes with 60g protein in them, thats just a waste.
Not true, protein get broken down to aminos which can consume more then 30g, then left overs get pumped around til it eventually turns to urea, then excreted but it's a long long process. The 30g is a myth. It all depends on your body's stores and how much it needs to be filled. IF you are actively working out that will be much higher then if you are sedentary.
I beg to differ and there is plenty of research on the topic.
Are you really trying to argue that protein turns into Amino Acids? *Shakes head* Yeah one of us has research on their side ;-)0 -
Thank you so much for posting about this. I am over on my protein everyday and it was starting to worry me. Tomorrow is my first weigh in. I've been at this for one week now. Wish me luck!0
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I know that too much protein can be bad for you, but what constitutes "too much"? Right now I am 5g over with Breakfast and Lunch and I was thinking of drinking a protein drink later this afternoon that has 18g of protein. Does anyone know a good answer for this?
You're getting bombarded with a lot of "information". You are asking about going over on protein by 5g here, and 18g there. That's nothing. You don't need to worry about it one bit! Athletes who are concerned about muscle mass typically eat a minimum of 1g of protein for every pound of body weight. I weigh 210lbs thus I try to consume about 210g of protein daily. 0 -
\Since it's pretty much a waste to consume more than 30g protein at any one sitting, that makes it even harder to have too much. If you're downing protein shakes with 60g protein in them, thats just a waste.
Not true, protein get broken down to aminos which can consume more then 30g, then left overs get pumped around til it eventually turns to urea, then excreted but it's a long long process. The 30g is a myth. It all depends on your body's stores and how much it needs to be filled. IF you are actively working out that will be much higher then if you are sedentary.
I beg to differ and there is plenty of research on the topic.
Are you really trying to argue that protein turns into Amino Acids? *Shakes head* Yeah one of us has research on their side ;-)
YAWN. Sorry but some link on a website called "wannabebig" doesn't make me want to read it. That's not why I drink protein shakes... I drink them for nutrition.
Here you go..
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/352713-limit-protein-to-20g-per-meal?hl=over+30g+protein#posts-47667060 -
Wow, there is a lot of stuff here... the MFP article linked above I'd trust. They used clinical research papers to back up what is said. Scientifically sound. Honestly, 30g of protein at a sitting is all one can digest. This is an anatomy/physiology thing. The rest gets passed through your system as waste. While protein does get broken down into amino acids, it's a rather slow process, in the greater scheme of things. While the max amount each person can have varies somewhat, it's not huge, maybe a gram or two. But other than how much you can have per sitting is discussed, how much you can have over the course of a day depends on your specific needs, how many calories you can have, how much exercise you do and so on. 40-30-30 works for some, others more protein, others less.0
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I am on a low carb diet for medical reasons. the MFP protein goals are way too low, even for their so-called low-carb diet.0
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1 gram of protein per pound of lean body mass is a good goal to shoot fo,r especially while losing weight, to maintain muscle.
It's too many calories that get turned into fat, not just excess protein. As long as you are in a calorie deficit, you won't gain fat, not from protein, fat or carbs.0 -
\Since it's pretty much a waste to consume more than 30g protein at any one sitting, that makes it even harder to have too much. If you're downing protein shakes with 60g protein in them, thats just a waste.
Not true, protein get broken down to aminos which can consume more then 30g, then left overs get pumped around til it eventually turns to urea, then excreted but it's a long long process. The 30g is a myth. It all depends on your body's stores and how much it needs to be filled. IF you are actively working out that will be much higher then if you are sedentary.
I beg to differ and there is plenty of research on the topic.
Are you really trying to argue that protein turns into Amino Acids? *Shakes head* Yeah one of us has research on their side ;-)
YAWN. Sorry but some link on a website called "wannabebig" doesn't make me want to read it. That's not why I drink protein shakes... I drink them for nutrition.
Here you go..
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/352713-limit-protein-to-20g-per-meal?hl=over+30g+protein#posts-4766706
Can I assume this means we're ignoring both the article and the 12 different scholarly citations associated with it? I mean that wouldn't be my first recommendation, but you have apparently lost a hundred pounds, so you must be doing something right.
In the meantime, since we're judging information by its domain name, we should recognize that the board topic you've linked to is the work of John Berardi, who is perhaps best known as a regular contributor to Testosterone Nation (www.t-nation.com). Here's a picture of him...
http://www.kevinneeld.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Hockey-Nutrition-John-Berardi.jpg
Pretty ripped dude. I wonder if he "wants to be big?"
Berardi is a respected writer to be sure, but one of many. His work turned heads because, as far as consensus goes, most agree that there is no maximum effective protein intake during a single sitting. I'd also like to add my voice to the chorus of posters recommending one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight.
If all this still isn't enough, please navigate here for more information...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance0 -
\Since it's pretty much a waste to consume more than 30g protein at any one sitting, that makes it even harder to have too much. If you're downing protein shakes with 60g protein in them, thats just a waste.
Not true, protein get broken down to aminos which can consume more then 30g, then left overs get pumped around til it eventually turns to urea, then excreted but it's a long long process. The 30g is a myth. It all depends on your body's stores and how much it needs to be filled. IF you are actively working out that will be much higher then if you are sedentary.
I beg to differ and there is plenty of research on the topic.
Are you really trying to argue that protein turns into Amino Acids? *Shakes head* Yeah one of us has research on their side ;-)
YAWN. Sorry but some link on a website called "wannabebig" doesn't make me want to read it. That's not why I drink protein shakes... I drink them for nutrition.
Here you go..
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/352713-limit-protein-to-20g-per-meal?hl=over+30g+protein#posts-4766706
Can I assume this means we're ignoring both the article and the 12 different scholarly citations associated with it? I mean that wouldn't be my first recommendation, but you have apparently lost a hundred pounds, so you must be doing something right.
In the meantime, since we're judging information by its domain name, we should recognize that the board topic you've linked to is the work of John Berardi, who is perhaps best known as a regular contributor to Testosterone Nation (www.t-nation.com). Here's a picture of him...
http://www.kevinneeld.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Hockey-Nutrition-John-Berardi.jpg
Pretty ripped dude. I wonder if he "wants to be big?"
Berardi is a respected writer to be sure, but one of many. His work turned heads because, as far as consensus goes, most agree that there is no maximum effective protein intake during a single sitting. I'd also like to add my voice to the chorus of posters recommending one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight.
If all this still isn't enough, please navigate here for more information...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
I agree, I mean those bodybuilding sites wouldn't have a clue about protein and it's uses. Especially all the scholarly articles on those sites. It's going to be a contested topic no matter what, it still comes down to what you are doing and how active you are. There is no way to set a set number on how many grams of one thing someone can take. It's completely an idiotic statement to make. No body, training, muscle mass, and more is the same. The fact anyone tries to label a set number everyone can digest shows a complete lack of understanding of the human body.0
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