Just because you can't see the muscle............

ninerbuff
ninerbuff Posts: 49,048 Member
edited November 2024 in Fitness and Exercise
doesn't mean you aren't working it while lifting weights. A friend of a client told me yesterday that she doesn't want to lift weights until she loses more fat so she can see the muscle more. While this is true to a point, I told her she'd get much better results if she'd start lifting now and once the fat reduces that the muscle will be firmer and stronger while losing fat along the way. Guess that's why my client introduced me to her.
DON'T WAIT. It's like waiting to start weight loss at the beginning of the month or blah, blah, blah. It's just an excuse to NOT do what needs to be done. IF you're wanting to really change you physique, lifting weights (and not the 2lbs 3lbs weights) can totally change it. NOW HIT THAT IRON!!!!!!



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  • ML0305
    ML0305 Posts: 227 Member
    Thanks for the post!!!
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    doesn't mean you aren't working it while lifting weights. A friend of a client told me yesterday that she doesn't want to lift weights until she loses more fat so she can see the muscle more. While this is true to a point, I told her she'd get much better results if she'd start lifting now and once the fat reduces that the muscle will be firmer and stronger while losing fat along the way. Guess that's why my client introduced me to her.
    DON'T WAIT. It's like waiting to start weight loss at the beginning of the month or blah, blah, blah. It's just an excuse to NOT do what needs to be done. IF you're wanting to really change you physique, lifting weights (and not the 2lbs 3lbs weights) can totally change it. NOW HIT THAT IRON!!!!!!



    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    This is very good advice.
  • sizzle92
    sizzle92 Posts: 1,015 Member
    You totally need the muscle to burn the fat faster at rest! I do an hour full body weight class twice a week! And also, women need it for our bones!! Happy lifting!!!!
  • I have been lifting for a year now with a trainer but I was not good on my cardio and food. I am fixing that now. I always joke with him that under all the extra puff, there is a rock solid girl. I cannot wait o show her off soon. MFP is really helping.
  • BerryH
    BerryH Posts: 4,698 Member
    Great informed post with advice we can all use, as ever!
  • shalinimunjal
    shalinimunjal Posts: 192 Member
    doesn't mean you aren't working it while lifting weights. A friend of a client told me yesterday that she doesn't want to lift weights until she loses more fat so she can see the muscle more. While this is true to a point, I told her she'd get much better results if she'd start lifting now and once the fat reduces that the muscle will be firmer and stronger while losing fat along the way. Guess that's why my client introduced me to her.
    DON'T WAIT. It's like waiting to start weight loss at the beginning of the month or blah, blah, blah. It's just an excuse to NOT do what needs to be done. IF you're wanting to really change you physique, lifting weights (and not the 2lbs 3lbs weights) can totally change it. NOW HIT THAT IRON!!!!!!

    How much weight should women lift? I started with 5 and recently went up to 8.
  • sweetrice12
    sweetrice12 Posts: 101 Member
    Thanks!
  • Yanicka1
    Yanicka1 Posts: 4,564 Member
    love it. T Y
  • alyssamiller77
    alyssamiller77 Posts: 891 Member
    I always said that I had a six pack, it was just hiding behind the Keg. Well now that I've finally drained the keg, sure enough, there's the six pack. I love the advice in this thread and I wish I could convince more people of it. I try to tell them, look, when the fat is gone, don't you want to have nice shapely muscle in it's place? The time to develop that muscle is now, not wait until the fat is gone and then wish you had better muscle definition.
  • piccolarj
    piccolarj Posts: 488 Member
    Great post niner as you are always so full of great info. Iwish alll ladies would lift heavy and not be so scared of anything over 5lbs. I just upped my free weight bicep curl from 20 to 25 lbs!! I know there is hott body under this fat and it's starting to peek through!! :happy:
  • catherine4211
    catherine4211 Posts: 944 Member
    Great post niner as you are always so full of great info. Iwish alll ladies would lift heavy and not be so scared of anything over 5lbs. I just upped my free weight bicep curl from 20 to 25 lbs!! I know there is hott body under this fat and it's starting to peek through!! :happy:

    Holy moly - how long have you been lifting? I just went from 10 to 12.5 lbs and it's HEAVY!!!
  • BUMP!

    Amen to that
  • TurtleRunnerNC
    TurtleRunnerNC Posts: 751 Member
    Bump
  • bump
  • piccolarj
    piccolarj Posts: 488 Member
    Great post niner as you are always so full of great info. Iwish alll ladies would lift heavy and not be so scared of anything over 5lbs. I just upped my free weight bicep curl from 20 to 25 lbs!! I know there is hott body under this fat and it's starting to peek through!! :happy:

    Holy moly - how long have you been lifting? I just went from 10 to 12.5 lbs and it's HEAVY!!!
    Well I taught Group Power (which is like Body Pump) for two years and I used 30lbs on my bar for biceps and the track last 4-5 mins so I had good endurance from that. Then I stopped teaching and started free weights last year for a few months but I couldn't progress because I was starving myself and not realizing (eating 700-900 calories and burning 800-1000). So I started eating better 1600-1800 calories started back lifting in December with 15lb weights and now I'm up to 25 and I can do 3 sets of 5-6.
  • Question here :
    As a strong bodied women, my weights are farely good size weights. I put on mass easier than dropping fat.

    Is there such a thing as going with longer repetitions and do not increasing weights or is is a legend of some sort?

    For example:

    - Biceps, free weights, I am doing 2 sets of 15 with 15 lbs weights not to overcharge and get more resistance.

    Should I go with 20 or 25 lbs and do 2 sets of 10 reps instead?

    Same for leg press :
    2 x15 reps for 180 lbs...
  • grapenutSF
    grapenutSF Posts: 648 Member


    How much weight should women lift? I started with 5 and recently went up to 8.

    More.

    Read New Rules of Lifting for Women. Or starting strength by Rippetoe. Or Staci, here, http://nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/

    OP, thanks for the post. I couldn't agree more!!
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Question here :
    As a strong bodied women, my weights are farely good size weights. I put on mass easier than dropping fat.

    Is there such a thing as going with longer repetitions and do not increasing weights or is is a legend of some sort?

    For example:

    - Biceps, free weights, I am doing 2 sets of 15 with 15 lbs weights not to overcharge and get more resistance.

    Should I go with 20 or 25 lbs and do 2 sets of 10 reps instead?

    Same for leg press :
    2 x15 reps for 180 lbs...

    bump to hear the answer
  • Beeps2011
    Beeps2011 Posts: 12,212 Member
    While I agree with the sentiment that you should "lift" all the time - whether trying to lose weight, or not.

    But, I would ADD to that idea by stating you sould LIFT HEAVY.

    It isn't just about "lifting" - it's "lifting heavy" that is key!
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    While I agree with the sentiment that you should "lift" all the time - whether trying to lose weight, or not.

    But, I would ADD to that idea by stating you sould LIFT HEAVY.

    It isn't just about "lifting" - it's "lifting heavy" that is key!

    The key to what? What do you consider heavy?
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    great post!
  • brit49
    brit49 Posts: 461 Member
    Bump!!
  • xstealth12x
    xstealth12x Posts: 43 Member
    Niner - you always have great advice on the forums. Thanks for that!
  • catherine4211
    catherine4211 Posts: 944 Member
    Great post niner as you are always so full of great info. Iwish alll ladies would lift heavy and not be so scared of anything over 5lbs. I just upped my free weight bicep curl from 20 to 25 lbs!! I know there is hott body under this fat and it's starting to peek through!! :happy:

    Holy moly - how long have you been lifting? I just went from 10 to 12.5 lbs and it's HEAVY!!!
    Well I taught Group Power (which is like Body Pump) for two years and I used 30lbs on my bar for biceps and the track last 4-5 mins so I had good endurance from that. Then I stopped teaching and started free weights last year for a few months but I couldn't progress because I was starving myself and not realizing (eating 700-900 calories and burning 800-1000). So I started eating better 1600-1800 calories started back lifting in December with 15lb weights and now I'm up to 25 and I can do 3 sets of 5-6.

    Thanks for the info!
  • Articeluvsmemphis
    Articeluvsmemphis Posts: 1,987 Member
    doesn't mean you aren't working it while lifting weights. A friend of a client told me yesterday that she doesn't want to lift weights until she loses more fat so she can see the muscle more. While this is true to a point, I told her she'd get much better results if she'd start lifting now and once the fat reduces that the muscle will be firmer and stronger while losing fat along the way. Guess that's why my client introduced me to her.
    DON'T WAIT. It's like waiting to start weight loss at the beginning of the month or blah, blah, blah. It's just an excuse to NOT do what needs to be done. IF you're wanting to really change you physique, lifting weights (and not the 2lbs 3lbs weights) can totally change it. NOW HIT THAT IRON!!!!!!

    How much weight should women lift? I started with 5 and recently went up to 8.

    women can lift as heavy as they can handle. each person is different and some exercises require different amounts, and it all depends on if you're doing free weights or the weight machines/cables. like you can go significantly heavier doing lower body exercises like dead-lifts and squats when I do free weights. but i range from 5 for small exercises and like 130 on something like the leg press. just have to feel your way around, and get help from different people like a trainer even if it's once, search youtube, forums, etc
  • Kekibird
    Kekibird Posts: 1,122 Member
    Thanks for the article on Staci from Nerd Fitness. That was an inspiring read!

    And thanks for this, perfect timing.
  • Rae6503
    Rae6503 Posts: 6,294 Member
    Question here :
    As a strong bodied women, my weights are farely good size weights. I put on mass easier than dropping fat.

    Is there such a thing as going with longer repetitions and do not increasing weights or is is a legend of some sort?

    For example:

    - Biceps, free weights, I am doing 2 sets of 15 with 15 lbs weights not to overcharge and get more resistance.

    Should I go with 20 or 25 lbs and do 2 sets of 10 reps instead?

    Same for leg press :
    2 x15 reps for 180 lbs...

    If you are on a diet, you are unlike to put on real mass. You might retain water, and/or your muscles will swell.

    Most people recommend 3-5 sets of 6-12 reps. 15-20 sets increase your endurance at lifting weights but are shown to do little to preserve muscle and/or strength as you lose weight, which is of course one of the main reason to lift while dieting.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/categories-of-weight-training-part-1.html
  • withervein
    withervein Posts: 224 Member
    While I agree with the sentiment that you should "lift" all the time - whether trying to lose weight, or not.

    But, I would ADD to that idea by stating you sould LIFT HEAVY.

    It isn't just about "lifting" - it's "lifting heavy" that is key!

    The key to what? What do you consider heavy?
    Heavy is any amount that makes you feel like you can just.. barely.. do it on the last rep of a set. No one can tell you where to start or how much you should lift unless they've seen your progress over a period of time. Learn proper form with a light weight, perfect it with a medium weight and once you have the muscle memory down, challenge yourself.
  • vs1023
    vs1023 Posts: 417 Member
    Great post niner as you are always so full of great info. Iwish alll ladies would lift heavy and not be so scared of anything over 5lbs. I just upped my free weight bicep curl from 20 to 25 lbs!! I know there is hott body under this fat and it's starting to peek through!! :happy:

    That is awesome. It's so hard for me to go up in bicep weight, but bigger muscles like squats and back are much easier. I recently was able to get to 15lbs on the barbell for curls. Little by little!
  • Matt_Wild
    Matt_Wild Posts: 2,673 Member
    This is my fav video for explaining how to lift - forget his size (yes he's a tank) but we all are made of muscle and our muscle responds in a very similar way:

    Shortened
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr25wNyAt7o

    Longer Version
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYmVP74CLFw&feature=related
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