dairy?

jkleeh
jkleeh Posts: 108 Member
edited November 10 in Food and Nutrition
I see a lot of people say they cut out.limit there dairy, I was curious as to why? I tend to eat cheese a lot for snacks, is that bad?
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  • hiker282
    hiker282 Posts: 983 Member
    Cheese is relatively high in fat in most forms. There are some that are better than others. Cottage cheese is awesome for a good source of fat and protein with a relatively low caloric impact on your diary. I've never understood any need to cut the stuff out completely, just don't go crazy on it.
  • moniquelessard
    moniquelessard Posts: 418
    some people find that cheese is bloating. Also, cheese has a high fat content.

    I still eat cheese too, but that's a personal choice. I'm not willing to cut out any foods in order for this lifestyle change to stick.

    If I cut something out, I feel as if I am punishing myself and then I binge on it later and feel guilty. ;)
  • pg3ibew
    pg3ibew Posts: 1,026 Member
    As long as you stay under your calorie goal, you are good to eat just about anything. I cut out ALOT of cheese, simply because I eat WAY WAY WAY too much of it. And it takes away from my other foods in terms of calorie count.
  • delilah47
    delilah47 Posts: 1,658
    here we go again lol

    in MY opinion dairy, milk and milk products, is baby food not needed by healthy adults.. i am not vegan, i just believe that
  • kittyninja
    kittyninja Posts: 118
    I don't eat dairy unless it's nonfat, 1% or 2%. There's just so much saturated fat in dairy unless it's low- or no-fat.
    With that being said, I used to be vegan, and I found that cutting dairy out completely made me feel AWESOME. Some people are lactose intolerant but don't know it, and then find that when they reduce their intake of dairy, they have less bloating, stomach aches, headaches etc.
    But there's no cure-all, that's just my experience.
  • jkleeh
    jkleeh Posts: 108 Member
    Maybe I will switch out some of my string cheese for cottage cheese. Its just an easy go to snack.
  • AZKristi
    AZKristi Posts: 1,801 Member
    Lactose intolerance is far more common than most people realize. I would assume this is a motivating factor for many people. I eat cheese daily, either as part of a meal or as a snack. For example, tomorrow I have feta on my salad for lunch and my morning snack is a pear and 1 oz of jack cheese.

    I don't really worry about the total grams of fat I consume as long as the grams of saturated stays low and I stay within my calorie goal. I eat enough healthy fats that I don't have any adverse effects from eating a bit of cheese each day.
  • Pepper2185
    Pepper2185 Posts: 994 Member
    I get bloated and miserable when I eat dairy. My body can't handle it.

    If your body can handle dairy, and it's not impeding your weight loss, I don't see any reason to cut it out or limit it.
  • beckylawrence70
    beckylawrence70 Posts: 752 Member
    totally agree Hiker282.......
  • Reinventing_Me
    Reinventing_Me Posts: 1,053 Member
    here we go again lol

    in MY opinion dairy, milk and milk products, is baby food not needed by healthy adults.. i am not vegan, i just believe that

    What about strong bones and teeth?
  • Aesop101
    Aesop101 Posts: 758 Member
    I love my dairy products, Yogurt, Cottage Cheese, Milk, and of course cheese. No way am I cutting those out. However I have reduced my intake on cheese and try to buy low fat cottage cheese. Also I buy Skim milk which is what I drank growing up on a farm. We had our own dairy cows. We also made our own butter.
  • coquette87
    coquette87 Posts: 114
    I love dairy. I avoid buying cheese, but only because I love it and would eat way too much of it, so I just don't buy it. :laugh: On a daily basis, I usually have a cup of skim milk (either on my cereal or in my protein shake) and either one or two servings of low fat yogurt. Some people find it bloats them, I don't get that reaction.
  • emmeroni
    emmeroni Posts: 2 Member
    Milk was produced to feed baby cows.. just like human breast milk is meant for human babies.. yup, I'm vegan.
  • Kymmu
    Kymmu Posts: 1,650 Member
    I steer clear of milk - lactose, but like full cream proper cheese - brie , blue, you know the kind you get at deli's etc.
    Great protein, very filling.
    Low fat cheese is kind of sad!
  • jkleeh
    jkleeh Posts: 108 Member
    I try not to cut out anything ( except fast food) I find if I cut it out I will think about it until I eat it., but I had noticed a lot of people saying they cut dairy out, I had never heard that before so I was curious

    Thanks!
  • CoryIda
    CoryIda Posts: 7,870 Member
    More than half of Americans are lactose intolerant to some extent, but most don't realize it and it doesn't bother them enough to change
    The other two main reasons people say to stay away from it:
    1) All of the hormones, antibiotics, etc. that the cows are fed eventually end up in the dairy products you consume
    2) Cow's milk is not easily digested.

    Personally, I am allergic so I have to steer clear of even trace amounts of milk products but milk, cheese, yogurt, etc has a lot of good stuff too so, although it may not be the *best* food source, I don't really think you have to eliminate it. Try to go local, organic, grass fed, etc whenever possible but don't worry about it too much.
  • andrejjorje
    andrejjorje Posts: 497 Member
    Depends how you'd like to see and understand things.:)
    For Paleo fans is terrible. :)

    It seems that calcium from milk enhances weight loss.
    2 studies below.
    http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20040416/dairy-foods-fat-weight-loss
    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/30/3/485.full

    I see a lot of people say they cut out.limit there dairy, I was curious as to why? I tend to eat cheese a lot for snacks, is that bad?
  • Gt3ch
    Gt3ch Posts: 212 Member
    Many people have a mild dairy allergy. If they cut it out completely a bunch of stubborn weight (often 10-30lbs) basically melts off them and they feel better.

    Dairy isn't the superfood it's been hyped to be in the past. For the most part we really can't absorb the calcium from dairy. There's also a body of research that suggests dairy is bad for long-term health and disease prevention. IMHO it's not unwise to at least limit it.
  • hiker282
    hiker282 Posts: 983 Member
    here we go again lol

    in MY opinion dairy, milk and milk products, is baby food not needed by healthy adults.. i am not vegan, i just believe that

    It's not about need, it's about taste and enjoyment. There are a lot of things we don't *need* to eat, but that we do eat because they taste good. Nothing wrong with that as long as you 're not crazy with it.
  • bchmura
    bchmura Posts: 18
    My doctor asked me to cut out a lot of things due to some regular abdominal pain for a few weeks, and dairy was one of them.

    I am on week three with no real dairy intake. I don't check labels and stuff, but I don't have any straight up dairy (eggs, cheese, etc). My problem has gone away, but there are a lot of things that I cut out so I don't want to blame dairy.

    My digestion is so much better now that it was before, dieting is easier as not a lot of calories going to cheeses and stuff.

    I would recommend trying it for a few weeks and see how your body reacts. It is one of the last things I am eating.

    - Advocado's make a great replacement for cheese / mayo on sandwiches
    - almond milk and soy milk are okay replacements for milk (and if you go flavored are really good in coffee)
    - never a fan of eggs, so no suggestions there

    Like I mentioned, I know some of the food I eat has some eggs in it somewhere, but I've not started worrying about that yet.

    I also agree with other people that we are the only animal that drinks milk after infancy. And that is kinda creepy when you think about what you are drinking.
  • Reinventing_Me
    Reinventing_Me Posts: 1,053 Member
    To those who do not eat or drink dairy -

    So you see no nutritional benefits at all?
  • daffodilsoup
    daffodilsoup Posts: 1,972 Member
    What about strong bones and teeth?

    Dairy is not the only source of calcium. It can come from dark leafy greens, fortified soymilks, and almonds, just to name a few. http://www.ellenskitchen.com/faqs/calcium.html
  • delilah47
    delilah47 Posts: 1,658
    here we go again lol

    in MY opinion dairy, milk and milk products, is baby food not needed by healthy adults.. i am not vegan, i just believe that

    What about strong bones and teeth?

    there's plenty of calcium in a healthy diet. mama cows give their babies a head start on good bones and teeth with their milk, then they go eat grass and hay because even cows know when to quit eating baby food.. like i said "healthy" adults do not need milk
  • AZKristi
    AZKristi Posts: 1,801 Member

    in MY opinion dairy, milk and milk products, is baby food not needed by healthy adults.. i am not vegan, i just believe that

    What about strong bones and teeth?

    Did you know that humans are the ONLY species of mammals that consume the milk of another species? We are also the only mammals that continue consuming milk after infancy. Clearly, dairy is not a biochemical requirement for healthy bones.

    The biggest thing you can do to keep your bones strong is resistance training. Every time a muscle pulls on a bone, it stimulates specialized cells to form new bone cells. Bones are living tissue - just like muscle or blood. If you don't use your body, bones will weaken far more quickly than muscles.

    You can get plenty of calcium and vitamin D by consuming raw vegetables.
  • CosmicBella
    CosmicBella Posts: 195 Member
    What about strong bones and teeth?

    Dairy is not the only source of calcium. It can come from dark leafy greens, fortified soymilks, and almonds, just to name a few. http://www.ellenskitchen.com/faqs/calcium.html

    ^^... This.
  • Gt3ch
    Gt3ch Posts: 212 Member
    To those who do not eat or drink dairy -

    So you see no nutritional benefits at all?

    Yep. No benefits to it (esp. if you look at it long-term) aside from taste and the fact that dairy is in almost everything. Going dairy-free is a major PITA.
  • delilah47
    delilah47 Posts: 1,658
    My doctor asked me to cut out a lot of things due to some regular abdominal pain for a few weeks, and dairy was one of them.

    I am on week three with no real dairy intake. I don't check labels and stuff, but I don't have any straight up dairy (eggs, cheese, etc). My problem has gone away, but there are a lot of things that I cut out so I don't want to blame dairy.

    My digestion is so much better now that it was before, dieting is easier as not a lot of calories going to cheeses and stuff.

    I would recommend trying it for a few weeks and see how your body reacts. It is one of the last things I am eating.

    - Advocado's make a great replacement for cheese / mayo on sandwiches
    - almond milk and soy milk are okay replacements for milk (and if you go flavored are really good in coffee)
    - never a fan of eggs, so no suggestions there

    Like I mentioned, I know some of the food I eat has some eggs in it somewhere, but I've not started worrying about that yet.

    I also agree with other people that we are the only animal that drinks milk after infancy. And that is kinda creepy when you think about what you are drinking.

    eggs are not dairy. just potential baby chickens (i didn't say i never eat eggs)
  • daffodilsoup
    daffodilsoup Posts: 1,972 Member
    Yep. No benefits to it (esp. if you look at it long-term) aside from taste and the fact that dairy is in almost everything. Going dairy-free is a major PITA.

    Not really. There's a huge market out there for alternative milks, etc., and if you follow a diet rich in whole foods, you don't really have to worry about this. It's a little more label-reading, but ultimately it's better for the animals and your body.
  • wendyapple
    wendyapple Posts: 323 Member
    i stopped drinking milk over 10 years ago, just because i liked soy better, but i always ate copious amounts of cheese, ice cream, and yogurt. as soon as i started losing weight anytime i'd eat cheese, butter, or anything with any milk product in it, i'd have immediate GI distress as well as irritation and soreness inside my mouth, lips, and tongue. all allergy tests were negative, but i know how i feel. lactaid or not, dairy isn't my friend. though i don't have the mouth problems with greek yogurt, it isn't easy on my GI, but i eat it for the protein.
  • yoouperh
    yoouperh Posts: 68 Member
    Cheese is my favorite food, so I always have reduced fat sharp cheddar and reduced fat string cheese in my fridge. I also found light baby bel cheese..Borden's also makes a fat free sharp cheese slice(love them on grilled cheese or with egg whites!...I think if you find what you enjoy, you can still have what you like without the tough caloric penalties!
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