Shell shocked new vegan.

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  • ilookthetype
    ilookthetype Posts: 3,021 Member
    Why are you going vegan? No grains, no meat, no sugar, no dairy, no eggs that's a lot to give up.


    Grains are meat? why is grain (which the last time I checked, a plant on the list of No-No's)


    I am sorry, I guess I really dont see the difference in being a vegetarian and then going vegan. cutting out dairy and eggs should not be that difficult.

    She said she doesn't eat grains or sugar. Gluten is generally a pretty hearty aspect of a vegan diet, it's a wheat and thus grain biproduct.

    I'm gluten free and I am starting a vegan/GF bakery, I know it can be done, but giving up gluten, grains, sugar, meat, eggs, dairy is REALLY limiting what one can eat. I can't imagine it's terribly sustainable.
  • amoeba15
    amoeba15 Posts: 38 Member
    don't be a vegan it's really not healthy for you. Sorry but it's true.

    No, a vegan diet can be just as healthy, if not healthier, than an omnivorous diet if properly planned out. Your information is wrong.
  • kittenmitton
    kittenmitton Posts: 231 Member
    I was a vegan for a few years. I should have probably found out I had low blood pressure before starting a vegan diet, since I was dizzy all the time rsrs. I didn't really have that hard of a time adjusting though, since I never ate milk products anyways, I don't like most meat, and I've never eaten eggs. I still keep to a vegan diet almost all of the time, with the occasional fish here and there, and some yogurt.

    Just make sure you get enough protein. If you like Indian food, you can use tofu and soymilk to make delicious fake paneer recipes (mattar "paneer," palak "paneer," etc). I've also found that seitan really fills me up and it can replace beef or chicken in a lot of dishes. Tempeh is another good filling food, although I have yet to find a way to cook it so it tastes amazing.

    Oh yeah: lentils. Lentils and couscous. I basically lived an entire summer eating lentils, couscous, and oatmeal. It was soooo good. Lots of different ethnic foods have lentil dishes that you might be interested in trying: egyptian (koshari), lebanese (mo'jadara), indian (dal makhani), ethiopian (misir wot)...so many more I can't think of but mmmmmm lentils.
  • misslissa555
    misslissa555 Posts: 135 Member

    Tempeh is another good filling food, although I have yet to find a way to cook it so it tastes amazing.
    I loveeeeeeeeeee using Braggs Amino Acids on tempeh! So good!
  • glenndanzig
    glenndanzig Posts: 8 Member
    don't be a vegan it's really not healthy for you. Sorry but it's true.

    hate to be the one to tell you this, but you don't know what you're talking about.
  • mamagooskie
    mamagooskie Posts: 2,964 Member
    Marking thread for later......I am vegan and love it.
  • kittenmitton
    kittenmitton Posts: 231 Member

    Tempeh is another good filling food, although I have yet to find a way to cook it so it tastes amazing.
    I loveeeeeeeeeee using Braggs Amino Acids on tempeh! So good!

    I'll for sure have to try that sometime. I'm not totally sure if I don't like tempeh because of the taste or just because of the texture, but I guess trying it in a tasty way will solve that issue.
  • I don't eat grains usually, though I have had a few cliff bars, (Which are hidden now. :ohwell:) I don't eat sugar either... well, I have moments of weakness every now and then....
    Sorry to be ignorant about this, but I've googled and found nothing. Vegans can eat grains and sugar, right??
  • amoeba15
    amoeba15 Posts: 38 Member
    Yes, vegans can eat grains and sugars. The OP merely avoids them.
  • onawho
    onawho Posts: 196 Member
    Ok I did not see where you said you avoid grains and sugars. My bad.



    Sugars I can understand but grains? Sure, I avoid corn, wheat, and some soy products mainly because they are GMO's and they are not real. When I have access to REAL corn, soy, etc I do eat them.
    Quinoa, organic grains, barley, rice, these grains are your friends. Eating rice with beans creates a complete protein when eaten together. I think you need to really read up on what you should and shouldn't consume before you start a vegan diet and fail because you have hit a wall.

    I am Lactose intolerant so avoiding diary is easy for me, and after reading what is going on in labs made me avoid commercially produced grains and other products.

    Start shopping at farmers markets and organic farms, met your farmers, ask them how to make dishes using Kale, swiss chard, leeks, etc.

    I eat a near vegan diet because I have a really tight budget and I found that I can stretch veggies and grains out further.




    And to the poster who wrote that a vegan diet is not healthy, .....Humans were vegan before they learned how to hunt and they survived! other wise you would not be here to post that its unhealthy. ! They ate roots, bark, berries, veggies, etc.
  • kittenmitton
    kittenmitton Posts: 231 Member
    Did you know your alleged "real" wheat, corn, etc is genetically modified? Humans have been genetically modifying food since they started doing agriculture 10,000 years ago. Most of the time, gm crops are engineered so they provide more health benefits (e.g., rice with a higher percentage of vitamin A, corn with a lower fat content, etc).

    Not trying to be mean, I just know a lot of people think they need to avoid all gm foods, but the reality is that we don't eat anything that has not been genetically modified, whether it's been modified in a lab or modified by crossing different species and hoping for the best. Really, the only instance in which gm foods are bad is if someone has a corn allergy, and they might develop an allergy to soy with corn DNA. Companies just exploit the whole no gmo thing to charge you more for foods that have been genetically modified for thousands of years.

    Also, the US doesn't really have super specific organic regulations and lots of places charge you up the butt for organic foods. If you want to save money, you don't have to buy organic (ex: bananas. Organic: 99 cents/pound. Non-organic: 59 cents/pound)

    Anyways, this is getting off topic, soooo OP, if no one mentioned it, go to vegweb.com for a bunch of vegan recipes (not just for food either - they have recipes for soaps and such if you're going to be a super vegan.
  • iRebel
    iRebel Posts: 378 Member
    Clarification:

    I am trying to stay GF. Vegans CAN eat grains and sugar, but often eat TOO MUCH of them b/c They are veagn, yummy, but I don't think they should be eaten in excess. I like quinoa, lentils, legumes... but no REFINED grains.
  • MichelleRenee13
    MichelleRenee13 Posts: 363 Member
    Why are you going vegan? No grains, no meat, no sugar, no dairy, no eggs that's a lot to give up.


    Grains are meat? why is grain (which the last time I checked, a plant on the list of No-No's)


    I am sorry, I guess I really dont see the difference in being a vegetarian and then going vegan. cutting out dairy and eggs should not be that difficult.

    GIving up dairy, at least cheese for me, is extremely difficult. It is one of my favorite things to eat. Just think of how many dishes one eats that contains cheese/dairy....especially comfort foods. It is very difficult to give up...just like any food someone loves and eat on a very regular basis.

    It really isn't that hard if you're motivated to go vegan.

    Even if motivated, which I am, can still be difficult. People aren't cookie cutter. It is a struggle for me.
  • veganbaum
    veganbaum Posts: 1,865 Member
    I don't eat grains usually, though I have had a few cliff bars, (Which are hidden now. :ohwell:) I don't eat sugar either... well, I have moments of weakness every now and then....
    Sorry to be ignorant about this, but I've googled and found nothing. Vegans can eat grains and sugar, right??

    Some vegans don't eat regular cane sugar because it is processed using animal bone char (to make it white, of all things!), so a dead animal was still used. There is vegan can sugar that is not processed in such a way. There are lots of things using animals that are nearly impossible to avoid, like asphalt and tires, but while recognizing this many vegans at least try to avoid directly consuming anything using animals. Just depends on the vegan.
  • TheBauhausCure
    TheBauhausCure Posts: 21 Member
    I'm an ethical vegan turned health vegan. When I say ethical vegan, I mean I was eating vegan cheese products, vegan chicken patties...etc. As a health vegan, I've been eating a lot more fruits and veggies and other whole foods (Watch forks over knives, it's a great wake up)

    Might I suggest the cookbooks 'Vegan with a vengeance' and 'appetite for reduction'? Also check out the youtube show 'The Vegan Zombie'. Fantastic recipes for vegans like me who dislike a lot of healthy food.
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