Research debunks health value of water guzzling

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SoupNazi
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This is an article I just read on Yahoo Health. I thought some might find it interesting. It's not my opinion. I am merely a messenger.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The notion that guzzling glasses of water to flood yourself with good health is all wet, researchers said on Wednesday.

Dr. Stanley Goldfarb and Dr. Dan Negoianu of the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia reviewed the scientific literature on the health effects of drinking lots of water.

People in hot, dry climates and athletes have an increased need for water, and people with certain diseases do better with increased fluid intake, they found. But for average healthy people, more water does not seem to mean better health, they said.

Their scientific review, published in the Journal of the American Society of Nephrology, is the latest to undercut the recommendations advanced by some experts to drink eight glasses of 8 ounces (225 ml) of water a day.

Dr. Heinz Valtin of Dartmouth Medical School in 2002 also put those recommendations to the test, finding them to be more urban myth than medical dogma and lacking in scientific basis.

Goldfarb and Negoianu examined what Goldfarb called "four major myths" regarding claims of a benefit for extra water drinking: that it leads to more toxin excretion, improves skin tone, makes one less hungry and reduces headache frequency.

"Our bottom line was that there was no real good science -- or much science at all -- behind these claims, that they represent probably folklore," Goldfarb said.

As far as facilitating toxin excretion, Goldfarb said that was not verified by any sort of scientific study.

"The kidneys clear toxins. This is what the kidneys do. They do it very effectively. And they do it independently of how much water you take in. When you take in a lot of water, all you do is put out more urine but not more toxins in the urine," Goldfarb said.

No studies showed any benefit to skin tone as a result of increased water intake, they found. They also found evidence lacking that drinking water wards off headaches.

As far as lots of water serving to limit appetite, he said there was no consistent evidence, adding it was "a little unclear exactly whether that was true."

"What no one looked at is whether anyone really loses weight over the long haul if they go under this regimen of drinking lots of water," Goldfarb said. "We just expressed uncertainty in that area."

While it may not help a person to drink lots of water, it may not harm them much either, Goldfarb said.

"If someone enjoys it, I say that's wonderful, keep doing it. They're not doing anything that's going to hurt them."

"A little mild dehydration for the most part is OK, and a little mild water excess for the most part is OK. It's the extremes that one needs to avoid," he said.

(Editing by Maggie Fox and Peter Cooney)

I WISH THEY WOULD MAKE UP THEIR MINDS!!!!! (That IS my opinion!):smile:

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  • SoupNazi
    SoupNazi Posts: 4,229 Member
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    This is an article I just read on Yahoo Health. I thought some might find it interesting. It's not my opinion. I am merely a messenger.

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The notion that guzzling glasses of water to flood yourself with good health is all wet, researchers said on Wednesday.

    Dr. Stanley Goldfarb and Dr. Dan Negoianu of the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia reviewed the scientific literature on the health effects of drinking lots of water.

    People in hot, dry climates and athletes have an increased need for water, and people with certain diseases do better with increased fluid intake, they found. But for average healthy people, more water does not seem to mean better health, they said.

    Their scientific review, published in the Journal of the American Society of Nephrology, is the latest to undercut the recommendations advanced by some experts to drink eight glasses of 8 ounces (225 ml) of water a day.

    Dr. Heinz Valtin of Dartmouth Medical School in 2002 also put those recommendations to the test, finding them to be more urban myth than medical dogma and lacking in scientific basis.

    Goldfarb and Negoianu examined what Goldfarb called "four major myths" regarding claims of a benefit for extra water drinking: that it leads to more toxin excretion, improves skin tone, makes one less hungry and reduces headache frequency.

    "Our bottom line was that there was no real good science -- or much science at all -- behind these claims, that they represent probably folklore," Goldfarb said.

    As far as facilitating toxin excretion, Goldfarb said that was not verified by any sort of scientific study.

    "The kidneys clear toxins. This is what the kidneys do. They do it very effectively. And they do it independently of how much water you take in. When you take in a lot of water, all you do is put out more urine but not more toxins in the urine," Goldfarb said.

    No studies showed any benefit to skin tone as a result of increased water intake, they found. They also found evidence lacking that drinking water wards off headaches.

    As far as lots of water serving to limit appetite, he said there was no consistent evidence, adding it was "a little unclear exactly whether that was true."

    "What no one looked at is whether anyone really loses weight over the long haul if they go under this regimen of drinking lots of water," Goldfarb said. "We just expressed uncertainty in that area."

    While it may not help a person to drink lots of water, it may not harm them much either, Goldfarb said.

    "If someone enjoys it, I say that's wonderful, keep doing it. They're not doing anything that's going to hurt them."

    "A little mild dehydration for the most part is OK, and a little mild water excess for the most part is OK. It's the extremes that one needs to avoid," he said.

    (Editing by Maggie Fox and Peter Cooney)

    I WISH THEY WOULD MAKE UP THEIR MINDS!!!!! (That IS my opinion!):smile:
  • lietee
    lietee Posts: 189 Member
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    i saw that on msn video today myself
  • Phatmomma
    Phatmomma Posts: 204 Member
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    Hmm I'm not sure on this one. I also suffered from frequent UTIs due to my allergy to most dyes and soaps. I used meds often and for years. And I drank cranberry juice. Now I found that when I feel one coming on I can drink a gallon of water in 2 hours or less and flush out the bacteria and I've been fine since with no medical intervention. I've also used water to detoxify my skin and my skin was flawless. It's funny the first couple lines actually contradict the remianing article because it states benefits of water. I don't know, I'm not giving up my water just yet because humans and animals alike have been repeaping the BENEFITS since the start of time. Also people who don't drink enough water can suffer kidney and major organ failure. My friends mom died from lack of water. They actually used to say they didn't like the way it tasted and would only drink it in something like koolaid or something and even then not enough. No or little vegetables. Just pizza, spaghetti, and soda oh and burgers. We used to marvel that they could live like that. And they looked AWFUL. Lil bro now morbidly obese, and my "friend" she has a hump in her back and is overweight and has dry hair and leathery skin and the all had yellow teeth. It was really very weird. I just don't understand how they could live without water like that.
  • SoupNazi
    SoupNazi Posts: 4,229 Member
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    I would rather be overhydrated than dehydrated...that is for sure!
  • Phatmomma
    Phatmomma Posts: 204 Member
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    TOTALLY! Lol can't they research something USEFUL say cleaning up the water we do drink, pr perhaps air quality. Um they better leave my water alone:mad: :mad:
  • Ileanak
    Ileanak Posts: 343 Member
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    Personal experience....


    70 oz + of water per day... all is ok
    <30 oz of water per day....... Constipated!



    I drink 2, 34 oz botles of water at work every day amd take 20 oz with me to the gym......
  • SuniBC
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    One of benefits of drinking more water that I've noticed since I joined, is that my ankles and feet are hardly swelling at all. Crazy as it seems, my Dr. always said that by drinking more water I would have less swelling. Now I know from my own experience.....so I think I'll just continue drinking my 8 glasses of water a day.

    :drinker: :drinker: :drinker:
  • kerrilucko
    kerrilucko Posts: 3,852 Member
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    I'm with Phatmomma! All this water ahs cured my urinary tract issues. Not to mention turning to water is saving me from taking in all the high-sugar substitutes!
  • Shannon023
    Shannon023 Posts: 14,529 Member
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    I take a late lunch at work and drinking lots of water makes it where I'm not a starving maniac by the time 1:00 rolls around.

    I'll stick with the water. :drinker:
  • Helawat
    Helawat Posts: 605 Member
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    Ahh! See, I live in the desert and that's one of the reasons why I drink water like a mad woman.
  • karilynn
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    hmm..this is kind of interesting. although, since i've started this on jan 3, i've only been drinking water, and i haven't had a headache. (i used to get a few a week). my skin tone hasn't really changed, and i have lost weight. i think maybe it's an individual thing, everyone's body is different and has different needs depending on your lifestyle and genetics! im glad they are saying it can't hurt though! i think i'll stick to my water, but thanks for the post, it was quite interesting!
  • Phatmomma
    Phatmomma Posts: 204 Member
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    Woo-hoo WATER! I loves my water and lots of it. And I totally agree on the swelling thing. Since my joints are so damaged from crazy excerise days. But it seems like I'm swelling less too! Thanks for letting me know yet another thing to LOVE about H2O!:drinker:
  • TamTastic
    TamTastic Posts: 19,224 Member
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    I have been drinking a lot of water since I started this in September and for the first time in YEARS, I didn't have dry skin over the cold winter! Also, it does help to keep me regular as well.

    Well, maybe it's a coincidence, but I doubt it. Who knows!! LOL! Interesting article though.
  • arubabound
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    the only bad thing from my increased water intake is the frequent wake up "call" at 3:00am.....Wish my body could manage to be all "set" by 11pm so I could sleep through the night!!!!!