Anyone else on a 1200 calorie diet?

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  • InTheInbetween
    InTheInbetween Posts: 192 Member
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    so then my next question would be what about when i do NOT exercise? then I stick with the 1200 calories right?

    Yes.
    Assuming you listed “sedentary” or “lightly active” (I don’t remember the exact terms . . ) in your initial profile, your calorie total is calculated before exercise calorie burn is added into the equation. Thus your calorie deficit already exists (before any exercise is listed) if you filled out your profile honestly. The recommended daily total is based on your BMR (ie what your body burns just by being alive every day). Therefore, your recommended total is based on what you should eat in order to lose weight making the assumption that you are NOT incorporating any additional exercise into your routine. If you ARE adding additional exercise to your routine that is outside of your day to day activities then you need to fuel that so YES eat your exercise calories. That doesn’t mean you need to eat ALL of your ex cals ALL the time. It just means that you need to give your body the extra fuel it needs to manage the additional exercise your asking it to do. Some think of it as an “excuse” to “eat more” but really eating your ex cals does not actually cancel out your deficit . . .
  • aintnodoubtaboutit
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    i'm on a 1200 calorie diet as part of the howard diet and it's been great so far. i lost 20lbs in the first 3 months. lately i hit a plateau just because I increased my exercise, but i didn't have many issues adjusting to 1200 calories a day. i would highly recommend a good multivitamin though because it made a huge difference for me
  • islandjumper
    islandjumper Posts: 369 Member
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    so then my next question would be what about when i do NOT exercise? then I stick with the 1200 calories right?
    Yup, just the 1200 calories.
  • almc170
    almc170 Posts: 1,093 Member
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    Really, it's ok to eat. In fact, you need to if you want to keep it off long term..

    And no, severely restricting calories will not speed up your weight loss. It will just slow your metabolism, especially if you're within a normal BMI range. I made the mistake of going ultra lo-cal once, and it screwed my metabolism all to hell. Sure I looked skinny, and my BMI was around 18. But it didn't last. Once I started eating relatively normally, the pounds came flying back, and did so for another FIVE YEARS or so.

    Everything in moderation, as the saying goes. Eat a sensible diet with a modest deficit and lift weights. You'll be so much better off in the long run.

    Oh, and I was 28 when I started my little "diet". I'm 42 now, and still trying to lose. That's what I mean when I talk about long-term consequences.
  • FitnessKing8
    FitnessKing8 Posts: 15 Member
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    I am on a 1200 calorie diet even though I am in fantastic shape. I just want to lose some other fat and then gain it back in muscle. Thats why I joined and to encourage others to help their dreams come true. I still have a dream which is to be jacked and it will come sooner or later. You to have dreams. Make it happen, but do over do it. If anybody needs any help with exercises or encouragement feel free to contact me because I'm open to help out others.

    My mom used to be way way overweight and I have been her "personal trainer". So far I have helped her lose over 65 pounds and still currently training her to be in great shape. I have also helped my dad lose the fat weight and gain back some muscle. I practically saved my mom's life because if she wasn't going to accept my help, she could have gotten high risks of illness. She even had R.A. and is pretty old but I push her because I know that it is her dream to be fit. Before she couldn't walk very far and now she is able to dance 5 hours on the dancefloor and actually move around all the time. She is 56 and has arthritis. I push her to a max that I won't bother her joints or hurt her. I was always that kid an still am who wanted to become a fitness trainer because Fitness is great, isnt it. If anybody needs any fitness help or exercises for certain areas or a workout plan, contact me. Thanks

    Dominic Capron- 14 year old fitness king
  • MrsPodaski
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    I've been eating 1200 cal and tracking on MFP since Sept 14. I have lost 44 pounds and am still going strong. I swim 45 min 3 or 4 times a week and that is my only exercise although I have an active job in the medical field that keeps my running around all day long. I stick to whole wheat sandwich thins, or pasta, drink 8 waters a day, have protein at every meal and snack on fruit or cut up veggies and occasionally have a glass of wine or split a dessert ( you've still got to have a life,lol) I usually skip cheese on my sandwiches and salads but occasionally have a little low fat cheese.. I keep dark chocolate SF puddings (60cal) on hand for when I need someting sweet. Sometimes I drink decaf tea with Splenda in it if I am having trouble getting my water in that day. I try and eat as close to the ground as possible. By that I mean I rarely use pre prepared , frozen, or canned foods and have switched from ground beef to ground turkey or chicken in my recipes 90% of the tiime. When eating out ,I choose a small portion if available, sometime appetizers and a salad really satisfy me. I order my entree, and sub a salad and coleslaw or vegetable for the normal sides. I'm really hapopy with this program, and I usually lose 2 pounds each week, sometimes a little more or less but I have lost every week since I started. I meet with a registered dietician a couple times a month and we discuss strategies for dealing with special occasions. It's nice to get a professional opinion when some special challenge is coming up. Mostly she says make really good choices at least 80% of the time and then when something special comes up , you can go over for one meal here and there and not sabotoge your overall results.I have also been successful with taking however many calories I went over one day and taking them off in "quick calories" the next day. to make it up.Just stick to it and I'm sure you;ll be happy with your results. My husband was doing this also and he got 1600 calories/day and had good consistant loss. Good Luck.
  • sleepytexan
    sleepytexan Posts: 3,138 Member
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    mfp put me at 1210 calories, and then moved me to 1240. i generally exercise 30-45 min 5-6 days a week and i burn 200-400 calories each time. it's been REALLY hard for me. i generally go to bed STARVING even after i've eaten back some of my calories. i've been at this since May and only lost 12 lbs (although i took a break from October-late January b\c i was so frustrated). I've lost only 2 lbs in the 5 weeks i've been back. my problem is how do i not go over my calories every day, but don't go to bed starving. i've been having to eat to where i'm 100 under, meaning i'm having to eat 1300-1600 a day.

    PEOPLE! you're starving bc you're literally starving! Why aren't you losing any weight? ugh ugh ugh you're making me post the whole article:

    Living With Obesity At 700 Calories Per Day!
    By: David Greenwalt

    I want you to consider a common female client. She's a woman about 5'5" and 185 pounds. A combination of a mostly sedentary lifestyle, quick-fix, processed foods and consistent excessively low calories has resulted in an incredibly stubborn fat loss scenario. Not only has it created a stubborn fat loss scenario but her ability to add body fat is remarkably strong.

    Most would believe there is simply no possible way she could be 185 pounds eating mostly low calories. While it's true the average obese American created their own obesity by being a huge over consumer, a sedentary glutton if you will, many are able to maintain their level of obesity with the following formula in very precise ratios: starvation + binges + sedentary lifestyle.

    An initial review of this woman's calories indicates she is just above starvation level in the 400-700 per day range. The food choices are mostly protein in this case (low-carb is all the rage you know) and there are virtually no vegetables or fruits to speak of.

    Five or six days per week the calories remain low in this range, however, there are nighttime binges from time to time and weekend binges where carbs loaded with fat (doughnuts, rolls, cookies, pizza etc.) are consumed.

    So while the calories are very low the majority of the time, there are one to two days per week where this isn't always the case. Even so, the nighttime binges and weekend slack offs don't amount to what you might presume would be thousands of extra calories, thus explaining the 185-pound body weight.

    Very few foods are prepared from home. There are lots of fast foods being consumed. Convenience and taste rule.

    I must say. Early on in my coaching and teaching career this woman was a real head scratcher for me. Isn't it calories in and calories out? Even if she's not active she's starving!

    How in the heck does she stay at 185 eating an average, including all binges, of maybe 750 calories per day? She's frustrated beyond belief. She sees her friends and coworkers eating more and weighing less. Is she simply unlucky? Is everyone else blessed? And what in the world is she supposed to do to fix this, if it can be fixed?


    Why Is She Not Losing Weight?


    First, let me tell you why she's not losing weight. Then I'll tell you what she has to do to fix the situation. With a chronic (months and months) intake of less than 1000 calories per day and a 185-pound body weight her metabolism is suffering greatly. It's running cool, not hot. It's basically running at a snail's pace.

    Think of it this way. Her metabolism has matched itself to her intake. She could, indeed, lose body fat but she's in that gray area where she is eating too few calories but not quite at the concentration-camp level yet.

    If she were to consume 100-300 calories per day her body would have virtually no choice but to begin liberating stored body fat. This is NOT the solution. It's unhealthy and, in fact, quite stupid.


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    Not only has her metabolism matched her intake, her body has maximized production of enzymes that are designed to help store any additional calories as fat. Anytime additional, immediately-unnecessary calories are consumed the enzymes are there and waiting to store the additional calories as fat. Her body is starved nutritionally and it has one thing on its mind - survival.

    Being mostly sedentary, her metabolism (hormones play a large role here) can do a pretty good job of keeping things slow enough so that the pathetically low calories she's consuming are just enough to maintain.

    But since certain enzymes are elevated, waiting for more calories so more bodyfat can be stored, every nighttime binge or weekend mini-feast will contribute to fat stores.

    So on the days she's not bingeing her body does not lose fat, or if it does, it's very little. And on the few days or times she does binge a bit her body is quite efficient at storing fat. So, while she may lose a smidge of fat from starving it is quickly replaced with every binge.

    Remember, these binges aren't a gluttonous 4000-calorie feast. Oh no, a binge might be 4-5 cookies worth about 500-700 calories. Nevertheless, since the binge foods are mostly carbs and fat it's very easy for the enzymes to shuttle the dietary fat into stored body fat. It's what they were designed to do.


    So, What's The Solution?


    Well then, now that we presumably know some valid reasons why she's not seeing a scale change and definitely no body fat change how do we fix her? We have to do something she's going to freak out over.

    We have to get her eating more. Not only do we have to get her eating more but more of the right, whole foods need to be eaten. Foods lower in fat that aren't as easily STORED as body fat have to be consumed. And we have to warn her.

    A Discouraging Start


    We have to warn her that since she's been sedentarily living on protein with binges of carbs and fats she is likely to see a weight gain right away. It's true.
    Once we begin really feeding her body with nutritious carbohydrates so she can become more active, her glycogen-depleted body will hang on to some of those carbohydrates (in skeletal muscle and liver) so she has stored energy for activity.

    When her body hangs on to those carbohydrates it has no choice but to hang on to more water too. For every gram of glycogen (stored carbs) she stores she'll hang on to three grams of water.

    This is not a negative response by the body but it will be interpreted by her as quite negative when she steps on the scale.

    It's quite likely she'll see a five to seven pound weight gain when she really starts eating properly again. This weight gain will remain for one to three weeks before it starts moving in the other direction.

    For argument's sake let's assume my Calorie Calculator and Goal Setter at Club Lifestyle suggests a 1500-calorie per day average in week one for a one-pound loss per week. First, she is going to freak out about this many calories.

    For months she's been eating less than 1000 and usually around 400-700 in one to three feedings total per day. To her 1500 calories is a ton of food. And if she even begins to eat less fast and packaged-foods it will be a ton of food.

    There is no doubt whatsoever that she will resist the increase. This resistance may take one to three weeks to overcome. During this period no weight loss will occur. She is too fat already in her mind and believes it will only hurt her to increase her food intake.

    I mean, after all, isn't that how she got fat to begin with? In her early stages of fat gain this was probably true. She overconsumed. But as I've said already, that's not why she's staying heavy.

    In addition to a freaked-out mindset about adding more food to her already overfat body she will simply find that it's all but impossible to eat four or more times per day.

    She's just not hungry at first. Makes sense when you think about it. Why would she be hungry three hours after eating a 300-calorie, balanced breakfast? Her body is used to 400-700 calories per day!

    So, even though she gets a plan and begins using my nutrition analyzer to log foods and meals she finds after having a balanced breakfast of 250 calories she couldn't force herself to eat meal number two on time.

    It'll take several more days of realizing what is going on and being one-hundred percent honest and diligent with her logging and planning before she begins to eat her meals as planned no matter what - even if she's not hungry.

    By now two to four weeks have passed and the only thing she's seen on the scale is it going up--not very encouraging if I say so myself.

    Raising The Grade


    After the first two to four weeks have passed she's probably beginning to consume her meals as planned although not quite like an "A" student yet. That is coming. She feels better because she's working out and is more active.
    And she feels like she has more energy throughout the day because she's feeding her body more calories and the right kinds of calories.

    She has finally begun eating the right kinds of fast foods (low in fat, moderate in protein) and less packaged food overall. She is making more meals from home and taking them to work for lunch rather than always grabbing something quick from a vending machine or the break room that always has some treat another employee brought in.

    After another two weeks or so she's moved from a "B" grade to more consistent "A"s. She's planning her days one day ahead in the Nutrition Analyzer; she's consuming fresh veggies and fruits on a daily basis.

    Her calories are almost ALWAYS in line with what is recommended by my Lean Account and she has seen her first signs of the scale moving in the right direction.

    She is now dropping from 190 pounds (her high after reintroducing food and carbohydrates again) to 189.3! "Progress at last!" she says. In actuality, the entire process was progress. But that's not how she saw it in the beginning.






    With a total of two to four weeks of increased caloric intake behind her and eating more consistently the right kinds of foods her metabolism has truly begun to rebound.

    She didn't kill it as she thought. She only wounded it. And since our metabolisms are like kids (they are quite resilient) and she doesn't have thyroid issues or diabetes or any known wrench that could be thrown into the spokes of fat loss, she will begin, for the first time in months or years, to see results that make sense and that one would expect of someone who is active (30-60 minutes five or more days per week) and consuming a caloric intake of 1300-1500 calories per day.


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    Avoiding Sabotage


    This process is in no way easy. I think you can see a plethora of ways it could be screwed up, sabotaged, given up on too early and so forth.
    A key to success for this very common woman (men too) is not giving up too soon, having faith in the fix, and moving sooner rather than later to the increased, quality food intake.

    It's going to take effort to overcome the mental hurdles of eating more food as well as the increase in scale weight that is going to occur in weeks one to three or so. It's disheartening, however, to charge hard down the weight-loss field only to get to the one-yard line and decide it's time to quit.



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    Many don't realize they only had one more yard to go and they'd have had a touchdown. You gotta hang in there with this plan. It's going to take some time for the glycogen levels to be replenished and level out. It's going to take some time for mental adjustments to occur.
    It's going to take some time before hunger signals are restored to anything close to normal. It's going to take time for the metabolism to rebound and not be in its protective mode.

    Giving A Stubborn Body The Message


    In certain, very stubborn cases, it may be necessary to eat at a eucaloric (maintenance) or hypercaloric (over maintenance) level for a few weeks to ensure the metabolism does get the signal that everything is alright and you aren't going to kill the body.
    Remember, your body could care less about your desire for fat loss. It just wants to survive.


    Some Take-Home Points



    The most common cause of obesity is Americans are sedentary overeaters/drinkers. Nothing in this article should be construed as to say that under eating is the root cause of obesity. It's not.

    It IS common for many men and women to be under eating with sporadic binges as I described here. This creates a perfect environment for continued obesity even if total caloric intake is quite low on average.

    Low-carb followers or "starvers" WILL see the scale go up when calories are consumed at reasonable levels again and carbohydrates are reintroduced. Live with it. Deal with it. It's going to happen. 98% of the gain will be water.

    The time it takes for mental acceptance and other adjustments to occur will vary but one should expect a two to four week window for these things to take place. Being forewarned with an article like this may speed this process up some.

    Once the right types of foods are consumed and the right caloric intake is consumed and the right ratios of carbohydrates, proteins and fats are consumed on a consistent basis, then, and only then, will metabolism begin to be restored and the key to fat loss be inserted into the lock with a noticeable drop in the scale resulting.
    This may take an additional two to four weeks to occur. Your metabolism is never dead or broken for good. But it may take several weeks of proper eating and activity for it to be restored.


    From day one, until the first, noticeable drop in the scale occurs may be four to six weeks--maybe one to two weeks longer. Those who give up on the one-yard line will never see the scale drop as will occur when intelligent persistence and consistency over time are adhered to.
    David Greenwalt
  • sleepytexan
    sleepytexan Posts: 3,138 Member
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    Here's one of my old posts from a similar topic:

    OK. I'm gonna give this a shot. I am an avid lifelong athlete. I have never been overweight, however, I used to eat too few calories (without knowing it), and a couple years ago, I actually GAINED weight bc of having slowed my metabolism to the point that every little extra treat I ate caused a weight gain, even though overall my calories were too low. THIS DOES HAPPEN.

    It is also the reason so many fat people stay fat. They restrict their calories so low, slow their metabolisms, binge (even a little), gain weight, restrict more . . . . and so on and so on. But they are still fat.

    It is also the reason most people can't lose that last 10-20 lbs. For real.

    1. MFP has a deficit built in. Let's say you're trying to lose 1 lb/ week. That is a 500/day deficit from your BMR (the amount of calories your body needs to complete basic functions.

    2. You exercise and burn 500 calories. Now you are at a 1000 deficit. If you eat back those 500 exercise calories, you refuel your body and you still have a 500 deficit for that 1 lb loss. If you DON'T eat back those calories, you have too little fuel. This is bad. This is too much of a deficit for basic functions. If you do this for a long time, you will STOP LOSING WEIGHT. Why? bc your metabolism will slow down -- it's like a brownout--not quite enough electricity to make the whole city (your body) run, so it has to slow down some things. You will probably start being tired a lot, your skin and hair might start to look worse, and you might even gain weight. But you might NOT be hungry -- your body is getting used to fewer calories. That's bad.


    That's when you start to gain weight. Let's say you're running along, eating 1200 calories a day, and exercising 400 calories a day, so net is 800. You're losing, you think this is great. You keep doing it, but after a while you stop losing. hmmmmm. One weekend you go out to a special event and have a slice of pizza and a beer. 1 slice of pizza and 1 beer. So you ate maybe 2000 calories that day and exercised off 400, so net 1600. BOOM! You gain 3 lbs! What?!

    Next, you freak out and restrict yourself down to 1000 calories a day and work out extra hard, burning 500 calories. Great, netting 500 now. You don't lose any weight, but you sure feel tired. Better get some red bull.

    Are you getting the picture?

    EDIT: When you work out, you need fuel. Food is fuel. If you don't eat back those exercise calories, you will not only have a big calorie deficit, you will have an ENERGY deficit. Remember, the calorie deficit for weight loss is built in when you use MFP. Exercising basically earns you more calories because you must refuel.
    --

    There are many people who will tell you not to eat exercise calories. Before you take their advice, you might want to see whether they are at goal, have EVER been at goal, or have ever been able to maintain at goal. If anyone says to you 'THE LAST TIME I LOST WEIGHT", just stop listening right there.

    Ask some athletes whether or not they replenish their bodies with food equal to the calories they burn. Ask people who are fit and have achieved and maintained a healthy weight for some years. Don't ask people who count walking across a parking lot as exercise.

    Here's an interesting case study about how to stay fat while consuming only 700 calories a day. Take a moment, you'll be glad you did:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/3047-700-calories-a-day-and-not-losing

    blessings.
  • almc170
    almc170 Posts: 1,093 Member
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    PEOPLE! you're starving bc you're literally starving!
    THIS!!!
  • HiKaren
    HiKaren Posts: 1,306 Member
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    Just bumping.... :smile:
  • fit4everyoung
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    I am on the 1200 cal. it is acturally working for me. Here is what i do-
    Every Sunday I set up salads for the week filled with mix lettuce, spinach, carrots, celery, cucumber and garlic. in single serve containers. Nature valley granola bars, Light and Fit yogurt and homemade vegetable soup. This way when i feel like snacking it is all there!
    Breakfast is yogurt and granola bars, water and coffee.
    Snack is low fat string cheese
    Lunch is salad and soup along with water.
    Snack
    Dinner usually a Lean cuisine meal, or salad and ?
    Generally try to eat a salad every meal.
    I walk at least five days four miles.

    Hope this helps

    Now were are talking. This is simple, easy and bullet proof to the max! Love your simplicity and dedication. Sometimes, I have to simply stop cheating 2-3 days hurts my progress. Keep up the great work...adding lean cuisine and shirataki noodles...:flowerforyou:
  • onequirkygirl
    onequirkygirl Posts: 303 Member
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    I'm on 1,200 calories on non-exercise days. I simply don't have energy after working out, I feel myself losing weight actually a little too quickly, and I know that's not maintainable. I wont necessarily eat back all my exercise calories, just enough to net 1,200.

    1,200 isn't some magic number either...it's an estimation...and requires personalization in order to become effective...as does your diet.
  • almc170
    almc170 Posts: 1,093 Member
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    I am on a 1200 calorie diet even though I am in fantastic shape. I just want to lose some other fat and then gain it back in muscle.
    No offense, but I don't think you have a viable career as a trainer. It's impossible to gain muscle on 1200 cal/day.
  • reddi2roll
    reddi2roll Posts: 356 Member
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    bump
  • elizabeth51608
    elizabeth51608 Posts: 31 Member
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    I am eating 1200-1300 calories a day, and doing strength training 2-3 times a week plus at least 500-650 calories on the elliptical 5 days a week.

    I don't eat back my exercise calories unless I am really hungry (which isn't often). I focus on eating healthfully and making the most of my calories.

    I understand that if you are at a reasonable weight you should be eating back at least some of your exercise calories...not so much for those of us who have a lot to lose. I did that for the first 2 months, and didn't lose a pound.
  • reynolds33
    reynolds33 Posts: 23 Member
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    I just dont see the point in exercising to burn off calories if you are just going to put those calories back on. that doesnt make sense to me. :/

    My Base Metabolic Rate (BMR) is 1900 calories a day. If I do not exercise and eat 1900 calories a day I will stay at the same weight.

    If I reduce my calories to 1200 a day I will have a 700 calorie deficit (i.e., 1900 - 1200 = 700). At that deficit I will loose 1.4 pounds per week without exercise (e.g., 7*700/3500= 1.4).

    If I exercise and burn 500 calories a day I can add that to my 1200 calorie diet supporting a 700 calorie deficit and therfore I can eat 1700 calories and STILL loose 1.4 pounds per week.

    If I don't eat the extra calories, my net calorie intake is only 700 calories which is not enough for me. At net 700 calories I get tired and cranky and don't have energy to exercise. In fact, I get cranky and tired on less than 1500 total calories so I always exercise at least 300 calories so I can eat 1500 calories (1200 net) and loose 1.4 lbs per week.

    I hope I helped make sense... re-reading my post I am not sure :)
  • thekarens
    thekarens Posts: 254 Member
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    I'm also on the 1200 cal a day diet along with the gym 6 days a week, an hour each visit. I don't eat back my exercise calories. Once I get closer to my goal I'll eat more and do some strength training. I'm currently losing about 2 lbs a week. I can honestly say I rarely feel hungry. I try to eat lots of fiber and protein.
  • Strodtbeckp
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    I am on 1200 and doing stationary bike or walking to burn about 300 -400 calories and have lost 13 lbs. I do not feel hungry or weak.
  • Kenzietea2
    Kenzietea2 Posts: 1,132 Member
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    no, I'd rather eat enough and not starve...and still lose weight.
  • kunibob
    kunibob Posts: 608 Member
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    I could not do a 1200 calorie diet. The longest I made it on that was one week, and I was super cranky and got the flu at the end of it. :laugh:

    The first 20 lb, I lost while eating 1400-1600 calories total. Then I noticed that I was always weak and hungry and wasn't making athletic gains, and my weight stopped moving for a couple months, so I upped the calories to try something new. The last 30 lb were lost on eating about 1400-1600 calories NET.

    Currently, I'm eating maintenance + exercise calories + a bit extra to try to build muscle.