Dairy? What's your 'opinion'?

think48
think48 Posts: 366 Member
edited November 12 in Food and Nutrition
Everyone has a different opinion. What's your opinion or experience with dairy and weight loss? I LOVE dairy and I feel like it keeps me full, but I swear, on the days that I drink even 8 oz of skim milk, my weight is up the next day. Just curious if eating dairy or cutting dairy has helped you lose weight.
Thanks.
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  • ariant23
    ariant23 Posts: 161 Member
    Is your weight really UP, or is it just natural fluctuation? Before I started dieting, I read a number of books and theories about dieting, took the small amounts of wisdom from some, and made my plan (that's basically healthy eating w/ a side of how to stay feeling full longer). One of the things I picked up from the south beach diet is that reduced/non-fat dairy products are great. they are some of the only true reduced-fat and calorie foods. almost all other reduced fat foods add back sugar/starch to make up for the loss in fat. Dairy doesn't. I love string cheese and the finlandia reduced fat cheeses to add a bit of fat and flavor to my food. plus there's all the protein and calcium that your body needs (especially as a woman). so... YES, my opinion, DAIRY == GOOD. All things in moderation, of course.
  • UponThisRock
    UponThisRock Posts: 4,519 Member
    Dairy makes some people retain water.
  • BAMFMeredith
    BAMFMeredith Posts: 2,810 Member
    There are many different schools of thought on this, but I pretty much just look at my calories and macros. I don't drink milk, just because I don't really like it, but if I want to eat cheese on something I just look at how many calories, fat, sodium, protein, etc are in it. If I've got room in my day for it, then I'll eat cheese. If I don't, then I don't.

    My mother, on the other hand, RARELY eats any dairy, and she said it had something to do with the way your body breaks down lactose like sugar or something. I don't know, I wasn't really paying attention. But, to her credit, she has lost about 30 lbs, is in better shape than I've ever been in my life, is a personal trainer, and is 57 years old. So maybe she's onto something.
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member
    Dairy is designed to grow small calves into big cows in a short period of time. There's lactose, growth factor, hormones, and other naturally-occurring things in milk that don't do a body good, in my opinion. My thoughts on this is based on both science, and my intuitive reaction. Think about it: you're drinking glandular secretions from another species.
  • sizzle92
    sizzle92 Posts: 1,015 Member
    Dairy is designed to grow small calves into big cows in a short period of time. There's lactose, growth factor, hormones, and other naturally-occurring things in milk that don't do a body good, in my opinion. My thoughts on this is based on both science, and my intuitive reaction. Think about it: you're drinking glandular secretions from another species.


    Why did you have to say this?????? :sick: lol
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    My opinion of dairy? Yum.

    Cheese. Milk. Ice cream. Cheese. Cheese. Cheese. Cheese. And more cheese.
  • myak623
    myak623 Posts: 615 Member
    Dairy is designed to grow small calves into big cows in a short period of time. There's lactose, growth factor, hormones, and other naturally-occurring things in milk that don't do a body good, in my opinion. My thoughts on this is based on both science, and my intuitive reaction. Think about it: you're drinking glandular secretions from another species.

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  • LeenaRuns
    LeenaRuns Posts: 1,309 Member
    I don't drink milk because I prefer soy milk, but let me tell you, I am all over cheese and yogurt like it's my job! I'm 5'6 and weigh 119 lbs. I don't think it's hurting me.
  • snlperdue93
    snlperdue93 Posts: 210 Member
    I personally hate milk and used to only have it in my cereal. Now that I am in my new lifestyle of eating, I gave up eating cereal, so I never have milk anymore. If I have a turkey burger or something like it I will use a slice of fat free cheese, but I generally don't eat much dairy due to being lactose intolerant and just plain not liking it. I do miss ice cream though.
  • cdnswty
    cdnswty Posts: 7 Member
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    hahaha
  • kvissy
    kvissy Posts: 205 Member
    I am (well was) a huge cheese fan, since I started paleo I had to cut out all dairy...I've found that I've been losing weight more efficiently as well becoming regular.

    I do miss that cheese though!
  • BrettPGH
    BrettPGH Posts: 4,716 Member
    It isn't like dairy products are some new fad people are trying out. We've been drinking milk and making foods from it for thousands of years. If it were truly harmful we'd all be dead by now.

    But like the above poster I rarely drink it myself, just never been a big fan. Cheese, ice cream and yogurt however are a different story...
  • Gt3ch
    Gt3ch Posts: 212 Member
    It depends. A significant portion of the population has a mild intolerance or allergy to dairy. Most of them don't realize it. When those people eliminate dairy they are much healthier and easily drop 10-30 lbs. For the other half of the population it's more a matter of managing their macros.
  • treetop57
    treetop57 Posts: 1,578 Member
    My 'opinion'? People who think dairy isn't good for us are among the some 75% of adult humans who cannot digest lactose. For them it is true: dairy isn't good for them. It's not true for me, one of the 25% of adult humans who can digest lactose. Cows' milk was an important enough part of my northern European ancestors' diet that they evolved lactase persistence and kept producing the milk-digesting enzyme lactase throughout their lives.

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    Map showing the prevalence of lactose intolerance around the world, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance
  • ValerieMartini2Olives
    ValerieMartini2Olives Posts: 3,024 Member
    I stopped eating meat and I use very little dairy products. I cut out using eggs in my diet, which makes it a little more difficult for me because I'm an avid baker. I don't like the taste of milk, never have, never will, but I keep nonfat dry milk powder in the pantry in case I need to cook something that needs milk. Just rehydrate it and go. But I love cheese. I have yet to meet a cheese I didn't like. I will never stop using or eating cheese.
    Dairy is good for you because it is a dense protein and there is usually some type of fat to it, which are both important in a diet. Obviously you wouldn't want to have a diet made up of pure cheese, because you'd be consuming a boatload of saturated fat. My dairy use is this: a Greek yogurt for breakfast, a portion of cheese for a snack or a portion of cheese for pasta or something for dinner. And I also love ice cream, so I get the healthiest ice cream/dairy dessert for a snack.
  • wahmx3
    wahmx3 Posts: 633 Member
    I love dairy and see nothing wrong with it except for those that can't digest it. I don't see how this topic (on various boards) gets so heated! I have to laugh at the people who are all against milk and yet think ice cream is the best thing out there.... what do they think it is made of!
  • BrettPGH
    BrettPGH Posts: 4,716 Member
    Obviously you wouldn't want to have a diet made up of pure cheese..

    Obviously you don't know me very well. :wink: :laugh:
  • flyingwrite
    flyingwrite Posts: 264
    Lactose intolerant here so I avoid almost ALL dairy. I have almond milk with my cereal. I have cheese from time to time, but always in small doses, mostly goat cheese and feta. Like with most food, it's a personal decision.
  • michellerae423
    michellerae423 Posts: 2 Member
    go on facebook or twitter to my health page http://www.facebook.com/#!/MeechsMotivation or @meechrae & ill make this a topic but i love dairy switched to almond milk & light or 2% milk dairy products
  • fbmandy55
    fbmandy55 Posts: 5,263 Member
    My opinion of dairy? Yum.

    Cheese. Milk. Ice cream. Cheese. Cheese. Cheese. Cheese. And more cheese.

    This. I LOVE Dairy. I stick with lowfat dairy as well. Provelone, Swiss and Mozzerella cheeses are usually a bit lower in calories than chedder or colby. Low fat cottage cheese and on RARE occasion, ICE CREAM.
  • MrDude_1
    MrDude_1 Posts: 2,510 Member
    Dairy is designed to grow small calves into big cows in a short period of time. There's lactose, growth factor, hormones, and other naturally-occurring things in milk that don't do a body good, in my opinion. My thoughts on this is based on both science, and my intuitive reaction. Think about it: you're drinking glandular secretions from another species.

    Well I tried drinking glandular secretions from the same species, and she got all freaked out about it....
  • btdublin
    btdublin Posts: 250 Member
    My 'opinion'? People who think dairy isn't good for us are among the some 75% of adult humans who cannot digest lactose. For them it is true: dairy isn't good for them. It's not true for me, one of the 25% of adult humans who can digest lactose. Cows' milk was an important enough part of my northern European ancestors' diet that they evolved lactase persistence and kept producing the milk-digesting enzyme lactase throughout their lives.

    330px-Laktoseintoleranz-1.svg.png

    Map showing the prevalence of lactose intolerance around the world, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance

    Hey this is cool! Good to know!
  • robot_potato
    robot_potato Posts: 1,535 Member
    I love cheese& yogurt. I can put milk in my cereal, but I can't drink it on it's own. Tastes nasty. Love dairy, but I don't have too much of it or I feel sick.
  • formersec
    formersec Posts: 233 Member
    If you have a lactose intolerance or a general allergy to dairy products, you could be, uh, stuffed up. A symptom of dairy sensitivity is alteration of your digestion. That could cause or contribute to weight gain.
  • Gt3ch
    Gt3ch Posts: 212 Member
    Dairy is designed to grow small calves into big cows in a short period of time. There's lactose, growth factor, hormones, and other naturally-occurring things in milk that don't do a body good, in my opinion. My thoughts on this is based on both science, and my intuitive reaction. Think about it: you're drinking glandular secretions from another species.

    Well I tried drinking glandular secretions from the same species, and she got all freaked out about it....

    You know I was thinking about this recently. Specifically I was wondering why cow's milk is a staple of our diet but it's completely taboo to drink human milk above a certain age. There are supposed to be great health benefits especially if someone is severely ill. There have been some instances of giving cancer patients breast milk from banks to help them recover from chemo. It's very rare and hush hush.

    So I was wondering is it seen as a form of cannibalism? Exploitation of women? Both and/or something else?

    Mostly I was wondering where the term "nursing to heath" and "nurse" (like in a hospital) came from. Is it figurative or coming from ancient (perhaps Roman?) practice? Man my mind wanders...
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Outside of a milk allergy or intollerance I doubt it makes much difference. I don't like milk so I don't give drinking it much thought. I do eat reduced fat cheese pretty regularly though.
  • rowbseat13
    rowbseat13 Posts: 147 Member
    If you have a lactose intolerance or a general allergy to dairy products, you could be, uh, stuffed up. A symptom of dairy sensitivity is alteration of your digestion. That could cause or contribute to weight gain.

    Absolutely. I started having really bad (and painful) digestive problems when I was about 18. I took fiber supplements, drank tons of water, and everything else my doctor recommended to help, but it didn't really start getting better until I stopped eating (most) dairy. No doctor ever mentioned that might work; I just noticed one day that I felt pretty sick after I had a bowl of cereal. Then it happened again. So I stopped drinking milk altogether. I felt better pretty quickly. Then I cut yogurt and sour cream. Even better. Recently, I've even stopped eating cheese -- except a little here and there, but nothing like I used to, -- and it's made a big difference. Kind of sucks, because I LOVE cheese, and sour cream, too.
  • maf66
    maf66 Posts: 211 Member
    I consume dairy daily so it doesn't have an effect on my scale. What has an effect on my scale are poor food choices! For me, learning to eat a balanced and varied diet including healthy portions is key. And besides, I think I would actually fall down and die if I went even a DAY without cheese!!!

    Mmmmmmmmcheesemmmmmmm :love:
  • DQMD
    DQMD Posts: 193
    Whole fat dairy products....I am attached to the bathroom feeling naseaous.

    Low fat dairy - I am fine with it in moderation. I will eat a couple slices of low fat cheese (string) and a few others. I won't eat half a block because the 1. Is tons of fat, and 2. It would stop me up like a cement mixer.
  • treetop57
    treetop57 Posts: 1,578 Member
    Mostly I was wondering where the term "nursing to heath" and "nurse" (like in a hospital) came from. Is it figurative or coming from ancient (perhaps Roman?) practice? Man my mind wanders...

    Good question. I don't know. I do know that French has two words for the English "nurse": infirmiere for a nurse in a hospital and nourisse for a wet nurse. I had a friend who embarrassed himself in French by saying that he'd gone to la nourisse after he'd injured himself!
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