Do HR Monitors Work?

Leiki
Leiki Posts: 526 Member
edited November 12 in Fitness and Exercise
I just did P 90 X Kenpo, which I thought is similar to judo/ karate/ boxing, and tried to log it as such. MFP told me at my weight, for 30 mins, I burned about 300 calories. I thought about it, and that can't be right. My heart gets racing a lot faster when I'm doing 2 minute aggression drills (hitting a pad, non-stop, with as much intensity and speed as I can) then it does during the whole Kenpo work out. There has to be degrees for this. Fighting a person must burn way more calories than doing poses in front of a TV screen.

My point-- should I invest in a heart rate monitor? Are they accurate and worth the money? Or should I just be careful when I'm eating my exercise calories?
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  • MissSpuggz
    MissSpuggz Posts: 155 Member
    They're a lot more accurate then MFP. I purchased a Polar FT4 after reading people raving about it on here and saw it on offer. I've found I've been burning nearly 100 more calories than what MFP says. I'd totally invest in a HRM since it takes into account your heart rate as well as age/sex/weight/height. Although they're not totally accurate, they're a lot better than the numbers on this site.
  • nfgchick79
    nfgchick79 Posts: 89 Member
    I found that MFP OVERESTIMATES calories burned in comparison to my HRM. I also have a Polar one. It really helps me when I'm working out to see exactly how hard I am working (to slow down or speed it up). I love it and feel that it is really accurate.
  • I think they work and absolutely love mine! It keeps me pushing myself to do more than I did the last time. I also feel good knowing that I know EXACTLY what I'm putting in my body and putting out.
  • adamb83
    adamb83 Posts: 719 Member
    I just did P 90 X Kenpo, which I thought is similar to judo/ karate/ boxing, and tried to log it as such. MFP told me at my weight, for 30 mins, I burned about 300 calories. I thought about it, and that can't be right. My heart gets racing a lot faster when I'm doing 2 minute aggression drills (hitting a pad, non-stop, with as much intensity and speed as I can) then it does during the whole Kenpo work out. There has to be degrees for this. Fighting a person must burn way more calories than doing poses in front of a TV screen.

    My point-- should I invest in a heart rate monitor? Are they accurate and worth the money? Or should I just be careful when I'm eating my exercise calories?

    I'm a P90X'er as well - definitely recommend getting a HRM. I've got the Polar FT4 & really like it.
  • squishycow7
    squishycow7 Posts: 820 Member
    I got one... turns out I was underestimating some things and overestimating others. I like knowing that I'm at least a bit more accurate!

    for instance, I was underestimating zumba and circuit training by about 100 calories, but I was overestimating taking a walk by quite a bit. everyone's body is different!

    here's a good blog if you're looking to buy one (it's kinda wordy but if you can plow through it I found it useful) http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Azdak/view/the-real-facts-about-hrms-and-calories-what-you-need-to-know-before-purchasing-an-hrm-or-using-one-21472
  • AmyRhubarb
    AmyRhubarb Posts: 6,890 Member
    I love my New Balance N4 - it's a watch/chest strap combo. I have compared calorie burns between my HRM and MFP, and it really varies - some exercises I've found that MFP is way over than what my HRM says, and on others it's way under. So yes, HRM is a good investment!
  • Reckabek
    Reckabek Posts: 487 Member
    Im glad i got one, cause mfp was over on my excersises and could be the reason i wasnt loosing. Mfp said i was burning 405 cals for a 50 min bike ride, and i was actually with my hrm at like 220! For the same bikeride. I was like what!!! And i was logging circuit training for my jillian michael dvds and was giving me way more credit then i deserved there too....grants its a tad discouraging that im not getten as much burned as i had thought but its better to know the truth...in my intstance!
  • dawn_eichert
    dawn_eichert Posts: 487 Member
    I absolutely love mine. But if you get one, invest in the continuous monitoring chest version such as Polar F4 or F7. I had the wrist version where you periodically check your rate and wasn't nearly as accurate. I find I am working out better now that I have it because I am able to see targets and such and try to workout harder.
  • beckylawrence70
    beckylawrence70 Posts: 752 Member
    Yes u need a HRM, I wouldn't even go by what this site says, it's not accurate.......I use a HRM in every exercise I do, weights or cardio......
  • Leiki
    Leiki Posts: 526 Member
    I got one... turns out I was underestimating some things and overestimating others. I like knowing that I'm at least a bit more accurate!

    for instance, I was underestimating zumba and circuit training by about 100 calories, but I was overestimating taking a walk by quite a bit. everyone's body is different!

    here's a good blog if you're looking to buy one (it's kinda wordy but if you can plow through it I found it useful) http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Azdak/view/the-real-facts-about-hrms-and-calories-what-you-need-to-know-before-purchasing-an-hrm-or-using-one-21472

    Thanks for the link! This is really helpful.
  • mrsbastone
    mrsbastone Posts: 83 Member
    I have a polar and love it dearly. :o) I think it's accurate enough. Even if the calories are off by a little, I am still able to do a fair comparison between exercises, which I otherwise wouldn't be able to. For some reason it's very motivating to me to see numbers. I don't know why but it does.
  • Leiki
    Leiki Posts: 526 Member
    I absolutely love mine. But if you get one, invest in the continuous monitoring chest version such as Polar F4 or F7. I had the wrist version where you periodically check your rate and wasn't nearly as accurate. I find I am working out better now that I have it because I am able to see targets and such and try to workout harder.

    That makes sense! So that is why there is such a price difference. Thanks!
  • mcanavan05
    mcanavan05 Posts: 210 Member
    I use the Polar Nike+ chest strap with my IPOD Nano 6g and their website..syncs to gym equip so i dont need to check my watch.. I mean IPOD..size of a watch and has watch strap for them now..
  • i have one and i really like it. i got a sportline 660 womens. i think the only difference between the mens and womens is the watch color and size. i was logging my insanity as high impact cardio but i think it was still underestimating how much i was burning. i've even noticed that on the treadmill i burn more than what is on the machine but on the incline trainer i burn less than what is on the machine. they are definatlly nice to have so you know exactly how much you have burned
  • I'll pile on too. I rely completely on mine. The one place where MFP and my Polar HRM seem to line up well is on my runs with Nike+. Every other exercise session I do the results are all over the place on MFP. I trust my HRM.
  • AmyRhubarb
    AmyRhubarb Posts: 6,890 Member
    Sometimes the price isn't even that much different, but the performance is, which I learned the hard way! I bought a watch only version on clearance at Target - but you have to put your fingers on the front of the watch to take your heart rate, which is a pain during a workout, especially if it doesn't read right away - and often it didn't, resulting in me having to slow down or stop my workout to get a reading! And of course the more often you take a reading, the more accuracy you get, but the more you are stopping your workout.

    The watch only version retails for about $50, the New Balance N4 chest strap/watch combo is $70 and totally worth the extra $20. If you're on a budget, figure out what model or models you'd like to have, then head to eBay and wait for one to come up at a good price - I got mine brand new, in the box for $26. :smile:
  • grt2b40
    grt2b40 Posts: 9
    I use the Polar FT60 and love it. Definitely invest in one. Especially if this is a lifestyle change for you that you indeed to continue. Well worth the money. :) Good luck. (BTW - Polar has a great FaceBook site you should check out. Great info and some very inspirational stories.)
  • Meliklotz
    Meliklotz Posts: 66 Member
    I found that MFP OVERESTIMATES calories burned in comparison to my HRM. I also have a Polar one. It really helps me when I'm working out to see exactly how hard I am working (to slow down or speed it up). I love it and feel that it is really accurate.
    ^
    Totally agree with this!
  • weightloss12345678
    weightloss12345678 Posts: 377 Member
    They are only as good as the information you supply them. ie. updating your pulse if not using achest strap etc
  • mrmanmeat
    mrmanmeat Posts: 1,968 Member
    I just did P 90 X Kenpo, which I thought is similar to judo/ karate/ boxing, and tried to log it as such. MFP told me at my weight, for 30 mins, I burned about 300 calories. I thought about it, and that can't be right. My heart gets racing a lot faster when I'm doing 2 minute aggression drills (hitting a pad, non-stop, with as much intensity and speed as I can) then it does during the whole Kenpo work out. There has to be degrees for this. Fighting a person must burn way more calories than doing poses in front of a TV screen.

    My point-- should I invest in a heart rate monitor? Are they accurate and worth the money? Or should I just be careful when I'm eating my exercise calories?

    I can't tell if this is a serious question...?
  • missyj1115
    missyj1115 Posts: 1,220 Member
    I think the Heart Rate monitors are worth the money but when I use it on my treadmill the HRM I am wearing
    reads differently than the one on my treadmill. Would defiantly like some clarification on this, which one do I trust?
    Any others out there with the same issue?
  • theredcliche
    theredcliche Posts: 233 Member
    I love my New Balance N4 - it's a watch/chest strap combo. I have compared calorie burns between my HRM and MFP, and it really varies - some exercises I've found that MFP is way over than what my HRM says, and on others it's way under. So yes, HRM is a good investment!


    Agree and I have the same HRM. I like knowing for sure what my cals burned are! :)
  • missyj1115
    missyj1115 Posts: 1,220 Member
    Bump
  • SueInAz
    SueInAz Posts: 6,592 Member
    Using a HRM is the only way to go if you aren't using exercise equipment or doing the same thing every time where you have a good idea of average calories burned. In fact, I've found that my stationary bike and my HRM are off by about 30% (with the HRM being higher.) Outdoor runners should also consider a HRM with GPS built in if they run a lot and like to track mileage, pace and exertion.

    Keep in mind that calorie counting isn't an exact science. An HRM cannot really tell you to the exact calorie how many were burned during a specific session, just as the calorie information for a carrot or 4 ounces of chicken isn't exact. But you'll get close and that's really all that matters.
  • spectralmoon
    spectralmoon Posts: 1,179 Member
    I'm another Polar FT4 user, and I burn more calories according to my HRM than what MFP predicts. I'm usually having to up my minutes on MFP by 5-10 to keep up with the HRM's calorie balance.

    It was about $95 at Target and totally worth the investment. Instead of counting seconds for minutes or using an online stopwatch, I go by calorie 100s now. Progress has been picking up again!!
  • while P90x routines are designed to burn about 600 calories an hour, you should definitely invest in a HRM if you're serious about tracking your exercise calories. when i do the entire Kenpo work out, i usually burn between 800-900 calories.
  • Leiki
    Leiki Posts: 526 Member
    Using a HRM is the only way to go if you aren't using exercise equipment or doing the same thing every time where you have a good idea of average calories burned. In fact, I've found that my stationary bike and my HRM are off by about 30% (with the HRM being higher.) Outdoor runners should also consider a HRM with GPS built in if they run a lot and like to track mileage, pace and exertion.

    Keep in mind that calorie counting isn't an exact science. An HRM cannot really tell you to the exact calorie how many were burned during a specific session, just as the calorie information for a carrot or 4 ounces of chicken isn't exact. But you'll get close and that's really all that matters.

    I didn't know there were HRM with GPS. Thanks for letting me know!
  • Leiki
    Leiki Posts: 526 Member
    while P90x routines are designed to burn about 600 calories an hour, you should definitely invest in a HRM if you're serious about tracking your exercise calories. when i do the entire Kenpo work out, i usually burn between 800-900 calories.

    Wow, 800-900? That is a lot! It doesn't feel like it with the 15 mins. of stretching and warming up.
  • Mom2M_and_O
    Mom2M_and_O Posts: 214 Member
    I have a Polar FT7 and even if it's off by 10% or so (likely over than under), I don't think it would be enough to hinder weight loss. As long as you know that you can't hang your hat on it to the exact calorie, you'll be fine. However, I think it's fairly accurate. For example, the Leslie Sansone website (or one blog I found somewhere) estimated that tthe average person burns approximately 100 calories per mile on her workouts. My HRM came in right at that.

    I read on a site somewhere where someone said they subtract one calorie for every minute of exercise. I don't know if that's really necessary or not. If I did that, that comes to reducing my calorie estimation by 10% which is really not that bad. I figure if I exercise 20-30 minutes, that's long enough to get a pretty good reading for my purposes.

    I don't regret the purchase at all. In fact, it motivates me to workout longer on some days.
  • pearceda
    pearceda Posts: 29 Member
    I use a New balance chest strap and watch combination and find it fantastic. I can keep track of my P90X workouts and know for sure what I am burning calorie wise and I also found out that my treadmill was overestimating by around 10% combared to my HRM. It was out anywhere from 50-70 calories a workout. I would definitely recommend going with a continous read combo set so you don't have to worry about touching a watch only system.
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