Calories eaten vs calories burned

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  • slieber
    slieber Posts: 765 Member
    AARGH! I'm 195 cals over my limit today (didn't work out as much as I wasn't feeling well).

    Will it make that much of a difference considering how much of a calorie deficit I've had over the week?

    I have burned about 4800 cals in the past 4 days (Monday to today). I had a few large-ish deficits. Will overeating by that much on one day make all that much of a difference?

    I weigh in on Saturday. I have two classes tomorrow which would likely give me about 700 calories in exercise and a bit more if I do a gym warm-up before. Not likely, that, as I don't have a lot of time between one activity (non-exercise) that I do and the classes.
  • NinaDawn79
    NinaDawn79 Posts: 164

    First sorry Darth for hijacking this thread!

    I would say this, don't put too much stock in a home scale for BF%, they are notorious for being wildly inaccurate. That said, they usually use electrical impedance, which means they go by how much resistance muscle has to electricity as opposed to fat. Which is fine except that much of this requires a specific amount of water being in your body, which is almost impossible to replicate on a daily basis. So BF% can vary from day to day on a home scale even if you eat the same amount, same type, and exercise the same way every day. You'd have to be completely regular in ALL your activities to make it truely accurate, by that I mean, drink the same amount of water every day at the same time, eat the same amount of sodium and other minerals (calcium, phosphorous...etc.) every day at the same time, go to the bathroom at the same time every day, exercise the exact same way for the exact same amount every day, have the same weather conditions every day... etc. it's just far to difficult.

    AS to your calories, if you're using the goals that MFP gave you and say you chose 1lb a week, MFP is already adding in a deficit, so any exercise you do, if you eat those calories back, you'll still be eating less than what it takes to maintain your current weight, so yeah, you'll still be at that 1lb a week EVEN if you eat your exercise calories.

    You may ask, "Then why do some people NOT eat them or all of them and still lose?" Well because our body's aren't an exact science, and body fat % has a lot to do with that, not EVERYONE will conform to the the exact number, some people's bodies can tolerate a higher deficit and still not trigger a famine response (fat storage), others need less of a deficit and are very sensitive to calorie deficit. The only way to know is to try a reasonable deficit and tweak it and see where you are in a month or so. Just remember, the more available fat someone has, the higher their deficit can be without triggering the famine response!

    hope this helps!

    \:happy:

    I did notice the wild fluctuations and wondered about that. Yes, this is a great help! I can eat a bit more with confidence. I do notice that when I stay within my points exactly, not using the exercise calories, I don't tend to lose. I just need to balance exactly HOW much of those will give me the weight loss I want.

    Thanks again! As always, you are a fountain of knowledge!! :-)

    I wanted to weigh in (hardy har) on the WW angle here and mention that my experience was similar in my WW days when I would work out heavily (more than 5 APs a day); I could never understand why I wouldn't lose the weeks I stayed within my point limits but was HUNGRY and irritable, but when I would go over by about 10-15 points for the week, would invariably lose (and was a much nicer person to be around.)

    I recently read on their fitness message board that if you are earning more than the recommended 4 APs a day, it's actually more effective to count each AP above the four as a point and a half; i.e. if you are earining 10 APs, then you should be eating 13 extra points. The way it was explained (in a really tiny nutshell) was that the AP's are designed for casual/regular exercisers, not intensive folks.

    That certainly backed up my experience and though I tend to get a little lost in the numbers posted in these threads so am not sure if it applies to your question exactly, thought I'd throw it ya FWIW.
  • amahlman
    amahlman Posts: 22 Member
    Also give your body at least 4 weeks to show any weight loss. It seems to take a bit for your body to figure out what is going on and to kick in to high gear. Hang in there. :smile:
  • slieber
    slieber Posts: 765 Member
    I wanted to weigh in (hardy har) on the WW angle here and mention that my experience was similar in my WW days when I would work out heavily (more than 5 APs a day); I could never understand why I wouldn't lose the weeks I stayed within my point limits but was HUNGRY and irritable, but when I would go over by about 10-15 points for the week, would invariably lose (and was a much nicer person to be around.)

    I recently read on their fitness message board that if you are earning more than the recommended 4 APs a day, it's actually more effective to count each AP above the four as a point and a half; i.e. if you are earining 10 APs, then you should be eating 13 extra points. The way it was explained (in a really tiny nutshell) was that the AP's are designed for casual/regular exercisers, not intensive folks.

    That certainly backed up my experience and though I tend to get a little lost in the numbers posted in these threads so am not sure if it applies to your question exactly, thought I'd throw it ya FWIW.

    Oh! Where did you read this? Can you give me a pointer to the thread on the WW forum? That does apply to my question, yes!
  • slieber
    slieber Posts: 765 Member
    Also give your body at least 4 weeks to show any weight loss. It seems to take a bit for your body to figure out what is going on and to kick in to high gear. Hang in there. :smile:

    I've been doing this for over a year now. Do you mean four weeks from any change of eating?
  • NinaDawn79
    NinaDawn79 Posts: 164
    I wanted to weigh in (hardy har) on the WW angle here and mention that my experience was similar in my WW days when I would work out heavily (more than 5 APs a day); I could never understand why I wouldn't lose the weeks I stayed within my point limits but was HUNGRY and irritable, but when I would go over by about 10-15 points for the week, would invariably lose (and was a much nicer person to be around.)

    I recently read on their fitness message board that if you are earning more than the recommended 4 APs a day, it's actually more effective to count each AP above the four as a point and a half; i.e. if you are earining 10 APs, then you should be eating 13 extra points. The way it was explained (in a really tiny nutshell) was that the AP's are designed for casual/regular exercisers, not intensive folks.

    That certainly backed up my experience and though I tend to get a little lost in the numbers posted in these threads so am not sure if it applies to your question exactly, thought I'd throw it ya FWIW.

    Oh! Where did you read this? Can you give me a pointer to the thread on the WW forum? That does apply to my question, yes!

    Oh boy, I'm afraid it would be hard, as when I say "recent" I really mean in the last year; I'm on the verge of giving up my WW online subscription b/c I seem to be doing as well on MFP for free, and I can't remember the last time I read their message boards (or counted points for that matter!)

    If you have an online subscription, perhaps make a posting about it to see if you can get the same response?? It was kind of a conversational topic at the time.

    Good luck!!!
  • darthdad1970
    darthdad1970 Posts: 12 Member
    Good news, by the end of the week, I have now lost weight again. It turns out that with all of the support that I was getting this week was correct. I was starving my body again and shutting it down. By backing off of the exercising, my body was working correctly again.

    Special thanks to all those who posted on this board, your advice was insightful and helpful as well.
    I also want to shout out to SHBoss1673 for his input and CarmenSantiago and angieford01 for their input as well. You are all wonderful and it is nice to know that we are not alone in this battle of our bodies. I think that we all have a nice foundation to stand upon and when we need the help someone is always there to guide us.

    Thanks again!
    Darthdad1970
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