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Question for fast runners who were once slow I'm slow. I am new to running, just finished my first 5K. And I'm super excited and just ready to continue on this running journey! But I'm super slow, I may run as fast as many walk. How can I build up to a faster pace such! I've already improved from 15:00 pace down to a 12:55, my goal is to run a marathon at a 9:25 some day...
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  • scottb81
    scottb81 Posts: 2,538 Member
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    How much are you running now. The answer may be as simple as developing your aerobic capacity more. If you are not doing this already then increase your runs to at least four days a week and your weekly mileage up to at least 30 miles a week. Build a base on that for around three months. After that your feet and legs will have gained the necessary strength to do some speed training.

    But even without the speed training you will get much faster just by developing your aerobic capacity.

    My 5k pace per mile dropped by 4 minutes in a year with mostly just a lot of base training and a minuscule amount of speed work.
  • toadiejones
    toadiejones Posts: 608 Member
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    Good question. I'd love to get faster as well! Not really interested in 10k but wondering if I have to train with longer runs to improve my 5k time.
  • gmpearson
    gmpearson Posts: 138 Member
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    Running 5Ks faster is a little different than preparing for a 10K, Half Marathon (HM), or a Marathon. Scott has a good point, building miles definitely will build your endurance and increase your aerobic capacity. It flat out makes running 3.1 miles much easier. On the other hand, it is very important to build in some speed training through intervals or fartleks. I also subscribe to the school of strength training to build up the speed and burst, as well as prevent injury.

    Here is my quick 5K story - hoping to add to it after my upcoming 5K on Saturday:

    Oct 2009: 34:07 (did little to no running to prepare)
    Oct 2010: 34:02 (did very little running to prepare)
    Jan 2011 (mid): 31:22 (started running 2-3 miles 3 times a week to prepare)
    Jan 2011 (late): 30:32 (same amount of running as above)
    Mar 2011: 27:08 (started running 3-4 miles 3-4 times per week to prepare)
    Oct 2011: 25:13 (running 3-4 miles 5 times per week)
    Jan 2012: 23:57 (running about 15-18 miles per week AND intervals AND strength training)

    I am now averaging about 18-25 miles per week, and hitting weights 3x, as well as intervals no less than 2x per week. I can feel a huge improvement, and obviously going from 11+ minutes per mile down to 7:44 in Jan is proof that the training works.

    My goal for Saturday is sub-23, which I think is completely achievable.

    Keep on running, add miles (in increments - not too many per week - about 10%), intervals, and work in some strength training.

    On top of all of this, I am down about 25 lbs from my first run, so that certainly helps too!!! :tongue:

    GOOD LUCK!!!! :wink:
  • BAMFMeredith
    BAMFMeredith Posts: 2,829 Member
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    This isn't scientific or anything, but I've consistently been a slow 5mph runner, until I recently switched up my 2 short runs during the week for HIIT, getting about the same amount of mileage just in a different way, and I'm now running at around 5.2 mph. That's not a lot faster, but I've only switched things up in the last month. Might not work for everyone, but I've definitely seen a difference personally :)
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
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    I'm still slow but the simple answer is that you'll become faster when you train faster.

    One of the previous posts mentions HIT or you could build intervals into one of your runs and (and I hate these) you could run hills once a week.

    Another factor is body mass, running is your body vs gravity and friction; as you lose weight your speed will (modestly) improve. (This is why marathons are always won by runners who look like they'd blow away in a strong wind)
  • BAMFMeredith
    BAMFMeredith Posts: 2,829 Member
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    Another factor is body mass, running is your body vs gravity and friction; as you lose weight your speed will (modestly) improve. (This is why marathons are always won by runners who look like they'd blow away in a strong wind)

    Haha the half marathon I ran last month was in conjunction with a full marathon, and the top 2 finishers were guys from Kenya who appeared to weigh 12 lbs. The top finisher ran the full 26.2 in 2:12 I believe. Faster than I ran the half. INSANE.
  • khagador
    khagador Posts: 175 Member
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    5 things to run faster

    1. lose weight (every pound = 2 seconds per mile off your time [up to a certain point])
    2. run more miles (only increase 10% per week)
    3. run some fast runs like intervals
    4. run hills
    5. weight train
  • khagador
    khagador Posts: 175 Member
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    Good question. I'd love to get faster as well! Not really interested in 10k but wondering if I have to train with longer runs to improve my 5k time.

    Simple answer: YES
  • kateroot
    kateroot Posts: 435
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    You'll get there. It takes considerable time. Interval training helped me a lot (bursts of speed for a minute or two followed by a slow jog for two minutes). I do 30 minutes or so of interval runs twice a week, with 45-60 minute runs at a sustainable pace 2 or 3 more times a week. My pace is slowly but steadily improving, I started out running a 5k in about 30 minutes, and I'm trying to get down to 26 minutes or less by this summer.
  • MaggieMay131
    MaggieMay131 Posts: 211 Member
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    I'm not an expert and don't run TOO much, but I used to... but my husband runs crazy fast. So I'll just briefly mention what HE does:
    (he's training for his next marathon with a goal of under 3 hours. avg. right now about 7 minute mile. his first marathon was 3:29 I think? so he's improving by doing this!)

    2-3 days/week of high intensity strength training
    2-3 days of interval hill work on treadmill (5 minutes flat, 3-4 minutes at high incline, SAME PACE)
    1-2 tempo runs (casual run, start out slow, work up to almost or at race pace, then taper off)

    Our coach at our crossfit gym suggested the hill training. It might be worth your time to try it out - just adjust the incline on the treadmill while keeping the same pace. Good luck!!
  • loseweightjames
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    Question for fast runners who were once slow I'm slow. I am new to running, just finished my first 5K. And I'm super excited and just ready to continue on this running journey! But I'm super slow, I may run as fast as many walk. How can I build up to a faster pace such! I've already improved from 15:00 pace down to a 12:55, my goal is to run a marathon at a 9:25 some day...

    you just finished a 5k with a 12:55 pace and you're worried about your marathon pace? O_O .... think you should get to the point where you can run 26 miles, then worry about your pace. The speed will come, first work on distance
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member
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    When will I be famous?xx
  • lorac321
    lorac321 Posts: 627 Member
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    I have no fitness advice but I would be happy to loan you a big dog that loves to chase people and I'm sure can run faster than you.
  • vick9180
    vick9180 Posts: 144 Member
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    Having a solid base of junk miles certainly helps covering the distance easier. But to really increase your speed, it's about adding in some speedplay (or fartleks) and intervals. Getting your legs used to turning over faster helps tremendously in being able to pick up the speed, and the base miles will help you in maintaining the pace. You might try getting in a couple of days of intervals or fartleks each week to work on your speed.

    An example of a good interval workout would be doing 6-8 repeat 400s (1/4 mile) at race pace with 2-3 minute recovery. Get a good warm up and cool down in there as well. That would be a good gauge to see where you're at.

    I ran competitively for 8 years, both in high school and college, and coached for 5 years...also have my degree in exercise science. Feel free to friend me or message me for any other tips! Currently training for a half marathon. :)
  • popsical101
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    Im in the same boat dont want to add too many miles tho as suffered from shin splints the whole of last year I run 5k 3 times a week at the moment they are starting to niggle again tho so gonna keep the mileage at the moment and try some interval training. On a gud note have nocked 30 seconds off my time tonight hopefully things will only get faster
  • Coyla
    Coyla Posts: 444 Member
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    When will I be famous?xx

    I don't know, but if you look anything like your profile picture, you're a cutie. :smooched:
  • Coyla
    Coyla Posts: 444 Member
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    Question for fast runners who were once slow I'm slow. I am new to running, just finished my first 5K. And I'm super excited and just ready to continue on this running journey! But I'm super slow, I may run as fast as many walk. How can I build up to a faster pace such! I've already improved from 15:00 pace down to a 12:55, my goal is to run a marathon at a 9:25 some day...

    Weight makes a big difference, of course, but you may not need to lose.

    I started "running" at a really slow pace. I was pulling 17 minute miles. (I'm not all that tall, so don't make fun.) I had to really work on my pace, which wasn't easy. Once you get used to a pace, it's hard to get out of that habit.

    I started by adding a minute of faster running, on and off like that. Then I increased it to two minutes and so on, until finally I got used to the new pace. My pace now is a tad over 5mph, nothing great, but a marked improvement.

    Have fun with it. Add biking to your workouts. Do high intensity cardio to build the aerobic stamina, and add time to your runs.
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
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    Another factor is body mass, running is your body vs gravity and friction; as you lose weight your speed will (modestly) improve. (This is why marathons are always won by runners who look like they'd blow away in a strong wind)

    Haha the half marathon I ran last month was in conjunction with a full marathon, and the top 2 finishers were guys from Kenya who appeared to weigh 12 lbs. The top finisher ran the full 26.2 in 2:12 I believe. Faster than I ran the half. INSANE.

    I know that feeling, I ran a half in January in 2:17;43 and was pretty happy with it (my excuse is that the course was snow covered & slippery or else I would have made my 2:15 :wink: )
  • TNTwedell
    TNTwedell Posts: 277 Member
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    Hills and HIIT
    start slow but incorporate hills and/or HIIT in 1/2 your runs - will build muscle/endurance/etc
  • toadiejones
    toadiejones Posts: 608 Member
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    I did a treadmill class yesterday at my gym where we did "ladders?" For an hour, she had us running through sets of increases in incline & speed. Is this essentially the idea you guys are talking about? It was intense!