The massage therapist says not to exercise? Advice?

jamiem1102
jamiem1102 Posts: 1,196 Member
edited November 12 in Fitness and Exercise
Backstory: in late 2007 I got into a brutal motorcycle accident (as the passenger) and damaged a couple discs in my lower back. Very painful, but the issues only flare up every once in a while.

Therefore, every now and then, I'll do something that'll royally piss off those points in my back... like I did last night.

This morning I went to a massage therapist to work on my back so I would be able to walk around and do things... and he said that I can't exercise for 3 or 4 days. Although my last massage therapist told me that jogging was fine, considering the amount of pain I'm currently in, the advice made sense. Then he told me that I should never exercise when I'm tired. THAT piece of advice seemed shady to me. (Also, this guy wasn't the healthiest looking person... he was very large, got winded just giving me the massage, and was dripping sweat.)

So basically, am I just a jerk that's discrediting him because he's large and telling me that I shouldn't exercise? Or am I correct in thinking that I can still do light activity (ex. walking and swimming) so that I don't completely fall off the exercise wagon.

My weight loss has been REALLY slow (I lost .2 pounds in 2 weeks), and I'm worried that if I stop exercise altogether I'm going to throw away all the hard work I"ve been putting into this, but I also don't want to injure myself further. :( Thoughts?

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  • MDawg81
    MDawg81 Posts: 244 Member
    I think he's wrong to say don't exercise at all, but I could see how walking/running could be the wrong exercise until you heal up. The pounding on your body could make your back worse. Idk, though.
  • bridgie101
    bridgie101 Posts: 817 Member
    Backstory: in late 2007 I got into a brutal motorcycle accident (as the passenger) and damaged a couple discs in my lower back. Very painful, but the issues only flare up every once in a while.

    Therefore, every now and then, I'll do something that'll royally piss off those points in my back... like I did last night.

    This morning I went to a massage therapist to work on my back so I would be able to walk around and do things... and he said that I can't exercise for 3 or 4 days. Although my last massage therapist told me that jogging was fine, considering the amount of pain I'm currently in, the advice made sense. Then he told me that I should never exercise when I'm tired. THAT piece of advice seemed shady to me. (Also, this guy wasn't the healthiest looking person... he was very large, got winded just giving me the massage, and was dripping sweat.)

    So basically, am I just a jerk that's discrediting him because he's large and telling me that I shouldn't exercise? Or am I correct in thinking that I can still do light activity (ex. walking and swimming) so that I don't completely fall off the exercise wagon.

    My weight loss has been REALLY slow (I lost .2 pounds in 2 weeks), and I'm worried that if I stop exercise altogether I'm going to throw away all the hard work I"ve been putting into this, but I also don't want to injure myself further. :( Thoughts?

    My sister was a dance student at the royal academy of ballet. She only ever injured herself when dancing after a night out on the turps, she would lose attention for a nanosecond and have an injury.

    Exercising when you're tired can be very dangerous, especially if you have latent damage waiting to flare up. I think it is good advice, that you have been given despite the fact that this therapist is not in fantastic shape right now - for all we know he learned this the hard way, but what he is saying is true, as with the don't exercise for a few days advice. You only have one back. you can lose that pound later.

    Go swimming if you have to exercise. But don't walk, and don't run. Don't do anything that impacts on your back.
  • crawpapa
    crawpapa Posts: 156 Member
    I have heard that the effects of a massage on the muscles takes its toll, and you should get one preferably if you aren't working out for a day or two. Not sure if this is what he meant or something else due to your injury, but that should probably come from a doctor, not the massage therapist.
    Another "rule" I've usually lived by is not work out a muscle that is still recovering from the last workout. Now this is different than just SORE from working out, but you have to know what your body can do and take.
  • firedragon064
    firedragon064 Posts: 1,082 Member
    I would just cut down the calorie and do only 15 minutes of low intensity cardio work out if you don't feel pain.
  • dmpizza
    dmpizza Posts: 3,321 Member
    All back problems are different, but I have found jogging the worst for my back.
    Massage therapists ARE NOT licensed to diagnose or prescribe ANYTHING.

    See a DR.
  • nmoreland
    nmoreland Posts: 183 Member
    Not exercising at all is different then not exercising when you are tired. If you are tired, you may not pay much attention to movements, and end up hurting your back. That being said, I would maybe check in with a doctor to see what exercises would be best for you.
  • Lasityttö
    Lasityttö Posts: 79 Member
    Exercising when you're tired can be very dangerous, especially if you have latent damage waiting to flare up.

    ^This. Also, you could ask a doctor about exercising, even better if you find a doctor specialized in spine/back problems.
  • Sl1ghtly
    Sl1ghtly Posts: 855 Member
    All back problems are different, but I have found jogging the worst for my back.
    Massage therapists ARE NOT licensed to diagnose or prescribe ANYTHING.

    See a DR.

    This.
  • rayleansout
    rayleansout Posts: 234
    Do something that takes the pressure off - recumbent bike, or stationary bike, only for a few days.
  • bfbooty
    bfbooty Posts: 189 Member
    swimming would actually help strengthen your back so would be a great exercise for you

    i think you would know yourself what you can and can't do when in pain though

    i don't have a great back myself and when it's bad i'd never be able to jog or jump about doing aerobics e.t.c but swimming is ideal or even just a brisk walk iykwim
  • kirkemorgan
    kirkemorgan Posts: 88 Member
    Ok, I'm a trainer as well as massage therapist, it really depends on what is going on as too whether you should work it. You can absolutely exercise if you lower back is supported when yur disks are acting up, if the spine is stabilized your good. Blood flow, will help yor situation. Adding muscle will help take pressure off your disks. Now if your lower back muscles are really tired, yes you shouldnt do much exercise that involves spinal flexion.
  • kirkemorgan
    kirkemorgan Posts: 88 Member
    p.s. swimming can be really bad on injuried disks (hyperextention and twisting movements, there is no compression but the first 2 motions could make things worse) Think beforte you type people
  • grassette
    grassette Posts: 976 Member
    I can sympathise with your problem. I was T-boned by a van in 2006, with the impact taking place just behind the driver`s seat. It damaged 3 discs, and hurt my hip to the point that I could not walk 3 blocks without pain. My doctors could not find the cause, and told me not to do anything crazy. So I sat around and gained enough weight to make it into the obese category.

    Then, last summer, I got fed up and decided to push through the pain. We took our family to Italy for 3 months, so that forced me to walk. Thanks to tylenol for body pain and telescoping walking sticks, I was able to break through. Now I do 5 kinds of exercise: I walk on the treadmill; I use an exercycle, I do aquafit and swim from 60 to 90 minutes bi-weekly; and I am learning Yang-style Tai Chi.

    This is about right for me right now, and if I go too hard at it, I can get back spasms. The good news is that I`ve learned to manage them so that they only knock me out for a week instead of for 6 weeks.

    I am definetly not up to jogging, running, or using the gym. And I can`t lift weights because the compression on my discs is too much right away.

    I don`t know what your massage therapist did to your back to give you that advice. Maybe he did some deep manipulations that you need to heal from. So, in the end, you do need to be your own judge.

    I really recommend Yang-style Tai Chi as a means of exercising your joints and becoming flexible again. But don`t take anybody as an instructor. I shopped around for about a year before I found the one that I`m happy with. Not all instructors are equal. Take a class with each one before you make a final decision. Some have techniques that make your knees hurt. Others may not be right for your back. When you start, make sure you adapt the exercises to you, and take the time to strengthen your body before trying those moves that are more challenging to you.

    And water exercise is also great because the water supports and slows everything down. But even there, you have to get stronger before you can do some moves in aquafitness. Swimming too. For example, I`m finding that I need to alternate a few laps of front crawl with swimming on my back to relieve the pressure on my lower discs. Everything is tentative with a back injury, but the main thing is to keep at it until your core muscle strength builds up.

    He does have a point about exercising when you are tired. That, in my experience is when coordination fails and injuries happen. Just make sure you exercise when you are not beat.

    Good luck in getting better.
  • kaotika
    kaotika Posts: 34
    He didn't say this:
    Then he told me that I should never exercise

    He said this:
    Then he told me that I should never exercise when I'm tired.

    That doesn't sound shady at all. If you are tired, get some rest. Get some rest, *then* go workout. If you really are that tired, your mind isn't in it and you are more likely accident prone. This would seem to be fairly simple, obvious and general advice I would think...
  • bfbooty
    bfbooty Posts: 189 Member
    p.s. swimming can be really bad on injuried disks (hyperextention and twisting movements, there is no compression but the first 2 motions could make things worse) Think beforte you type people

    my apologies I was told by my dr and a trainer in the gym I used to be in it was good for strengthening the back, my dad has a dreadful back and finds swimming helps him a lot
  • bunnysone
    bunnysone Posts: 486 Member
    go BEYOND seeing a doctor.

    Many doctors don't have the knowledge to correct or work with your kind of injury. See a physiotherapist or, even better, an exercise physiologist.

    I have two personal trainers in my gym who specialise in injury rehab and strengthening. THEY are the kind of people you need to be talking to.

    I have injured my back in the past and with one of their help have cured the problem. Many people overlook simple solutions, like seeing this kind of professional when they get injured. All too many times their rehab can be fairly quick and with minimal pain if they get on it before the body weakens another area by compensating for the initial injury.
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    All back problems are different, but I have found jogging the worst for my back.
    Massage therapists ARE NOT licensed to diagnose or prescribe ANYTHING.

    See a DR.

    +1

    I love my massage therapist but I wouldn't take medical advice from her and see a real doctor, not a chiropractor.
  • jamiem1102
    jamiem1102 Posts: 1,196 Member
    Thanks guys. I appreciate all your responses. I'm definitely going to be taking a couple of days off of my workouts.

    I'm going to be more careful during my evening workouts, but unfortunately, I'm usually tired because I workout after I get home from work. :(
  • ChristieStearns
    ChristieStearns Posts: 94 Member
    Hi there - girl with 6 herniated discs here. I feel your pain.

    I would say you really have to listen to YOUR body. Not anybody else (well, unless they are a doctor, and even then you gotta go with your gut).

    I have my times when exercise is just too painful and I need a couple of days off. I HAVE to listen to that or I'll be in a world of hurt. But, for the most part, exercising regularly helps my daily pain level a LOT. Especially Curves... the strength training is building up my core muscles and my back muscles which I think is helping great deal.

    The only thing I can think why he might have said "don't exercise when you're tired" is because sometimes we aren't as careful or as tuned-in to our bodies when we are tired. I know I have to be very in-tune to how my body feels when I'm exercising or else I end up pulling or overextending something and then can't exercise for a couple of days.

    All that being said though, as an ex-massage therapist, I can say he shouldn't be giving you this type of "medical" advice. I'd talk to your doctor, but also, really listen to your body - both ways. If you hurt, listen to that. It doesn't mean you're weak or giving up if you take a few days off. But when you do feel good, make the most of it! Carefully :)
  • ChristieStearns
    ChristieStearns Posts: 94 Member
    p.s. swimming can be really bad on injuried disks (hyperextention and twisting movements, there is no compression but the first 2 motions could make things worse) Think beforte you type people

    I can attest to this. With my injured disks, I am only supposed to swim breaststroke and not too quickly. It's because of the direction of my disc bulges and my back being hyperexteded. Since everybody is different, you probably shouldn't swim without a good assessment from a DR or physical therapist about what type of swimming is safe for you.
  • kimmydear
    kimmydear Posts: 298 Member
    I have back problems too and was told by my doctor that running when it was hurting was no good. I already knew that, but I did try pushing through it a couple of times. Then I tried walking...that hurt too. So now I've been focusing on strengthening my body esp my core before I get out for running again. I'm taking this weekend off because I feel those tell-tale twinges in my lower back signaling me that it could get worse quick. But the good news is that the strength training (circuit training for the most part) has really helped. I'm looking forward to *maybe* getting out and pounding the pavement this summer. Maybe. ;-)
  • MarincicS
    MarincicS Posts: 265 Member
    All back problems are different, but I have found jogging the worst for my back.
    Massage therapists ARE NOT licensed to diagnose or prescribe ANYTHING.

    See a DR.

    +1

    I love my massage therapist but I wouldn't take medical advice from her and see a real doctor, not a chiropractor.

    This
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