Surely eating more calories for exercise doesn't work?
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so if i consumed/ate 3500 calories in one day, but burnt 1500, should i then eat back that 1500? because that to me just makes the exercise seem pointless, as im still going the be over the daily calorie limit
Nope, if you do the maths, that doens't make sense!
Your first example: eat 1200, burn off 250 - that leaves your body 950 cals to function on for the day, which is not very much.
This 950 is your NET cals for the day.
And this time: eat 3500, burn off 1500 - you've given your body 2000 to function on for the day which is probably around the number you would need to maintain your weight. In this example, your NET cals are 2000. Eating like this you might not gain weight but you'd be unlikely to lose.
If you look at your MFP home page, it has done the sums for you each day.0 -
you need to eat UNDER your goal that MFP has in place for you (they build in a deficit.) Now, as you add exercise to your log you will notice that your goal goes up. You mentioned that your initial start is 1250cals. So if you have no exercise, eat under that. If you exercise and burn 250 cals you should now eat under 1500 cals.
Exercise is far from pointless. exercise gives you better cardiac health and raises your metabolism so you will burn more calories when you are just sitting around!0 -
oh dear, i made the mistake of thinking that exercise uses up fat, (therefore it'll decrease). am i now right in believing it uses up energy/calories to burn the fat?0
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But please can you explain what 'Skinny fat' is?
Hope this helps: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+"skinny+fat"?0 -
so if i consumed/ate 3500 calories in one day, but burnt 1500, should i then eat back that 1500? because that to me just makes the exercise seem pointless, as im still going the be over the daily calorie limit
If you ate 3500 and burned 1500, your net is 2000 cal. If your goal is over 2000, you should eat some more. Otherwise, not.0 -
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so if i consumed/ate 3500 calories in one day, but burnt 1500, should i then eat back that 1500? because that to me just makes the exercise seem pointless, as im still going the be over the daily calorie limit
NO! Because the 3500 is over what your calorie consumption should be. You should only eat back exercise calories that get you back to your calorie goal for the day. So technically if your goal is 1200 calories a day and you ate 3500, you would have to exercise 2300 calories off to get back to square one! Thats almost an impossible amount to achieve in one day!
That being said, if I have a good exercise day (burn more than 800 calories) I try to only eat back HALF my exercise calories. It's bneen working for me as I am down 25 lbs since January 1st!0 -
Skinny fat is when you are at a lower weight but you have an unhealthy body fat percentage.0
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thank you for clearing that up for me!
But please can you explain what 'Skinny fat' is?
Skinny fat is when you're not overweight, but you still have significant body fat. It can happen when you lose weight without the right exercise and nutrition.0 -
so if i consumed/ate 3500 calories in one day, but burnt 1500, should i then eat back that 1500? because that to me just makes the exercise seem pointless, as im still going the be over the daily calorie limit
I think in this example, you ate back your exercise caloires BEFORE you actually burned them. Your goal should be to net whatever MFP says your calories should be(1200 I think you said). So if you ate 3500 and burned 1500 your net would be 2000, which means you ate over your goal already.0 -
I see, so in theory i only need to do the exercise if i want to be able to eat more?
my current limit is 1200 and something, if i was to burn 250 a day and not eat an extra 250, would that be ok?
If your current limit is 1200 and you burn 250 without eating them, you are left with 950, which is far too low (unhealthy). 1200 calories (net) is the MINIMUM that most women should consume. Going lower than that, you are messing with danger.
And yes, in theory - being able to eat more is definitely one reason to exercise (it's one of my favorites!) But here are lots of other reasons, as another poster has mentioned.
-General cardiovascular health
-Building muscle
-Increasing endurance
-Improving mood
-Sleeping better
etc.
I strongly agree with BerryH and LoreleiWalks...for overall health, exercise is important. I've lost 18 lbs in 2 and half months by following the exercise, healthy eating, AND eating your exercise calories. I sleep better, have more energy, and I have clearer skin, and I have lots of fun sharing these new habits with my hubby.0 -
so the answer is yes? Why bother doing the exercise then , if im just going to put the calories burnt, back into my system? (That is my point from the start!)
There are lots of reasons to do exercise that are not involved in weight loss.
Decreasing risk of heart disease is one thing that comes to mind. Decreased risk of injury (so long as you aren't going pro-athlete).
You are right, eating back what you burn results in no extra loss.
I find that I am happiest eating about 1500 cals a day, but not a lot more. If i want to lose 1 pound a week, i need a 500cal deficit each day. This means I need to eat 500 less than maintenance, which is 1300. I'm not happy at this amount, so I eat a 300 cal deficit and burn the other 200. I am not going to eat these back as it is part of my 500 cal deficit. However, if I burn 500 cals, I will eat back at least 200 of those so that I remain over 1200 cals.
That was confusing, I know, and the way MFP is set up does not easily allow for a plan like this. Once I am fully well, however, I will eat 1800 and burn 500. To do this, my goal will be set to 1300, it will add 500 on for exercise, and I will eat it. This way I am still at my deficit.
gosh my brain is still too mushy from being sick for even simply maths.0 -
I would do some searching in the forums there are loads of helpful posts that will answer all your questions and help clear things up for you. =]0
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Surely putting enough fuel in the car to drive 400 miles doesnt work!0
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Calories are measurements of energy. Your body uses energy to function. Growing hair, brain activity, heart, intestines, skin replenishment, talking, walking, sitting upright, it ALL uses energy (calories). TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) is the total calories needed by your body to maintain your current weight at your current lifestyle level. If you want to lose weight, you have to eat less than your TDEE, so your body will utilize the stores of fat (and unfortunately sometimes, muscle, if you don't use them and you don't eat adequate nutrition).
MFP takes your stated goal (lose 1 pound or lose 2 pounds per week, for example) and deducts the required calories from your TDEE estimate. 3500 calories = 1 pound, more or less. So to lose 1 pound per week, MFP reduces your calories by 500 per day. But under no circumstances will MFP set your goal at less than 1200 as that is commonly considered to be the threshhold for nutritional deficiency (for a female).
If you go out and exercise MORE, you are burning more calories and if you don't eat them back, you may be eating too litlle, which is potentially unsustainable and unnecessarily difficult. Additionally, if you reach your goal by undereating, it is possible that once you start eating normally again, you'll put the weight back on. And no one wants that, right? So the point is to do this slowly and healthily, so we can do it for as long as we need to, without giving up or binging or harming our metabolism.
Hope this helps.0 -
thank you.0
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oh dear, i made the mistake of thinking that exercise uses up fat, (therefore it'll decrease). am i now right in believing it uses up energy/calories to burn the fat?
If you exercise at about the lowest level, 50% of the energy used will be fat, 50% will be carbs. Ratio of carb usage goes up from there until anaerobic (sprints, weight lifting) where 100% is carbs.
With 3500 calories in lb of fat - you got energy to spare there obviously.
With 1500-2000 stored calories of carbs, you are limited if you keep not replenishing them day by day, because your diet was so restrictive.
Once they run out, muscle must be torn down to make glucose.
Worse than that, the liver with 400-450 cals of carbs is used up first, and it is the only supply for blood sugar the brain needs. If blood sugar runs low, muscle breakdown occurs. Even if there is more glucose in the muscles.
So you exercise 1 hr. Very light, so 50% is carb supplied. 500 cal total, 250 of that carbs.
On eating ONLY 1200 cal diet with 50% carbs, do you supply 250 calories worth of carbs, sure, 600 cal. But this doesn't even take into account ALL other activity ranging form 30-50% carb usage too. Your BMR is getting 30% carb usage, so 360 cal of carb there. Just went over 600 cal worth of carb in a diet, and never each touched rest of the day.0 -
exercise is not a waste of time... it makes you healthy. It is good for your heart and your body, it builds muscles, it is a mood regulator, it helps you sleep, it increases your libido.. etc.0
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<--- Surely eating more calories for exercise worked for this girl.
A caloric deficit helps you lose weight.
Exercise helps lower blood pressure, improve circulation, improve overall heart health, and a million other things.0 -
Kind of the opposite. If you work out but don't properly fuel up, it's as if the workout was a waste of time and effort.0
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