Is yout TV watching you while you watch TV?

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papa3x
papa3x Posts: 286
This is a pretty scary article:

http://www.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/...ching-you-latest-models-raise-concerns-483619

Basically some of the new Samsung TVs have cameras and a microphone, with internet connectivity:

Excerpt:

Samsung demoed these features to the press earlier this month. The camera and microphones are built into the top if the screen bezel in the 2012 8000-series plasmas and are permanently attached to the top of the 7500- and 8000ES-series LED TVs. A Samsung representative showed how, once set up and connected to the Internet, these models will automatically talk to the Samsung cloud and enable viewers to use new and exciting apps.

These Samsung TVs locate and make note of registered viewers via sophisticated face recognition software. This means if you tell the TV whose faces belong to which users in your family, it personalizes the experience to each recognized family member. If you have friends over, it could log these faces as well.

In addition, the TV listens and responds to specific voice commands. To use the feature, the microphone is active. What concerns us is the integration of both an active camera and microphone. A Samsung representative tells us you can deactivate the voice feature; however this is done via software, not a hard switch like the one you use to turn a room light on or off.

And unlike other TVs, which have cameras and microphones as add-on accessories connected by a single, easily removable USB cable, you can't just unplug these sensors.
During our demo, unless the face recognition learning feature was activated, there was no indication as to whether the camera (such as a red light) and audio mics are on. And as far as the microphone is concerned the is no way to physically disconnect it or be assured it is not picking up your voice when you don’t intend it to do so.
Samsung does provide the ability to manually reposition the TV's camera away from viewers. The LED TV models allow you to manually point it upward, facing the ceiling; the plasma’s camera can be re-aimed to capture objects in the rear of the TV according a Samsung spokesperson.
Privacy concerns
We began to wonder exactly what data Samsung collects from its new “eyes and ears” and how it and other companies intend use it, which raises the following questions:

Can Samsung or Samsung-authorized companies watch you watching your Samsung TV?
Do the televisions send a user ID or the TV’s serial number to the Samsung cloud whenever it has an Internet connection?
Does Samsung cross reference a user ID or facial scan to your warranty registration information, such as name, address etc.?
Can a person or company listen to you, at will, via the microphone and Internet connection?
Does Samsung’s cloud store all this information? How secure is this extremely personal data?
Can a hacker intercept this data or view you via the built in camera?
Can a third-party app program do any of the above?
Exactly what information does the TV send to Samsung or other parties?
Does Samsung intend to sell data collected by its Smart TV owners, such as who, what and when one is viewing?

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  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,080 Member
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    yikes. :noway:
  • newbeetler
    newbeetler Posts: 194 Member
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    A decent firewall should allow you to work out what port the camera and mic are transmitting the information to the Samsung cloud on and you simply block it.

    With all the apps available on Iphones etc it should be able to design something to just unblock it at the click of a button if you really want to use the functionality.

    Personally I would block and switch it off as soon as I get it.

    No chance of evesdropping then.

    It could be used by some unscrupulous hackers to work out when you are in the house and when not and with a little bit of profiling nice easy burglary opportunity.

    Too scary to release in my view.

    I won't be buying one that has a camera and mic. If I want one of those I use my laptop and can switch it off.
  • papa3x
    papa3x Posts: 286
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    A decent firewall should allow you to work out what port the camera and mic are transmitting the information to the Samsung cloud on and you simply block it.

    I don't think the average "joe" would know how to do that, or maybe not even think to do that.
  • My1985Freckles
    My1985Freckles Posts: 1,039 Member
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    Creepy!
  • Dilfster
    Dilfster Posts: 434
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    if you don't want a tv with a camera in it, then buy a different tv. it's not like they are hiding the fact that there is a camera in it. lol.
  • newbeetler
    newbeetler Posts: 194 Member
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    A decent firewall should allow you to work out what port the camera and mic are transmitting the information to the Samsung cloud on and you simply block it.

    I don't think the average "joe" would know how to do that, or maybe not even think to do that.

    True. I'm an IT professional so could probably work it out.

    But as has been said I won't be buying a TV with a camera/mic in it.

    Got visions of new TV programs. Right we are going to talk to a random person through their TV.

    Remenicent of Noels house party lol
  • treetop57
    treetop57 Posts: 1,578 Member
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    A decent firewall should allow you to work out what port the camera and mic are transmitting the information to the Samsung cloud on and you simply block it.

    I don't think the average "joe" would know how to do that, or maybe not even think to do that.

    Black electrical tape should also solve the camera problem! And an air horn for the microphone.