suicide

cohophysh
cohophysh Posts: 288
edited November 12 in Chit-Chat
Did that get your attention...parents, please talk to your children about suicide. The small community I am associated with lost a 14 yo to suicide a couple weeks ago and I just heard that a 15 yo has just tried to kill himself.

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  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    So sad. That young they just have no idea that life does get better. I couldn't even imagine losing my child that way.
  • Yes - PLEASE get the word out and don't be afraid to say something or ASK someone if you suspect they are thinking about suicide. It could save their life.

    If you know of anyone who may be experiencing suicidal thoughts, call 1-800-273-TALK. That's the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline and they are staffed 24 hrs a day with counselors just waiting to help people going through these kind of crises. You can also call if you are concerned about someone else. I used to work for one of the Lifeline centers for about 6 years - there are good people out there that want to listen and help!
  • alecta337
    alecta337 Posts: 622 Member
    A student at my college took their life two weeks ago. So sad. I think colleges should have better outreach. You could sit in your room by yourself and never go to class or leave your room and no one would know unless you have friends who were concerned.
  • Firefighter_Jay
    Firefighter_Jay Posts: 426 Member
    Been there, my second suicide attempt was extremely serious, and worked for about 5 mins. Best thing I ever did for myself though. It completely changed my outlook on life, and is the biggest reason I am what I am today. If I had life to do over again, I wouldn't change the fact that I tried to kill myself.
  • bridgie101
    bridgie101 Posts: 817 Member
    Been there, my second suicide attempt was extremely serious, and worked for about 5 mins. Best thing I ever did for myself though. It completely changed my outlook on life, and is the biggest reason I am what I am today. If I had life to do over again, I wouldn't change the fact that I tried to kill myself.

    Yes, it's fairly clarifiying. I wonder if there's anyone out there who has NOT considered topping self?

    Anyway as to my kids: they know damn well that if they commit sideways I'll kill em.
  • saragato
    saragato Posts: 1,154
    I think those at risk need to be more aware of suicide hotlines more than anything. Having been suicidal for years, I know it was not something I would have ever discussed with my parents because a lot of times parents handle the situation wrong even if they think they're helping. Having an anonymous hotline or a confidential school counselor is a safer place for them and they can get started towards help whether that's through therapy or medication.

    Suicide is a tragic thing, but it can't be helped unless the child wants it. Those that really, truly want to die will or will at least try to.
  • i attempted to OD when i was 14 this was after telling my parents i needed help because i thought about killing myself often and they did nothing, they didn't take me seriously, they like so many other people assumed at 14 i knew nothing and was just being dramatic and silly, im 21 now and all though yes my life has gotten better i still have days that i feel like i don't want to be here those are the days i end up thinking about how my parents never understood never listened, so you should tell parents to talk to their kids you should tell them to LISTEN to their kids, to read between the lines, to stop assuming at 12-14-16 and so on that they know nothing that they are too young times are different now kids grow up faster they learn things they shouldn't long before they should and pretending we live in a world where kids can grow up slow and ignorant is not going to help anything. im a wife and mother now and i know that as much as i may want my child to be a child for as long as possible she probably wont be and im not going to pretend she is, i will look for the signs and i will be there hopefully she wont suffer from depression the way i did.

    Edit: i DID attempt to take my own life, more then once both by OD. However BEFORE i did this i realized that obviously something was wrong with me because other kids my age did NOT think this way and so i reached out for help, most kids i met in the hospital i was placed in for therapy told me they reached out as well and no one seemed to hear them either.
  • skywa
    skywa Posts: 901 Member
    It really is a shame when teenagers take there own lives. They really are mentally unstable at that age down to a physiological level.

    I personally attempted suicide during my teen years. I was absolutely manic all the time. Oddly enough it passed with puberty. Go figure. I've also prevented several friends from taking their own lives.

    I really wish schools and families made more effort to get there children's psychological state checked on a regular basis. Even if they don't suspect anything. So many conflicting feelings take place during that period in a persons live.
  • twinlaced
    twinlaced Posts: 46 Member
    I think it's a bit different from considering it to really attempting or planning the process. I tried about 3 times to OD. I had never been able to make friends in high school, and I did not think life would get any better. The only thing that helped me was myself, and realizing that I had to survive in this world. If no one was going to help me, then I would fight for it and do whatever I could to get there. And it did get better. I am at the college of my dreams and I'm pretty happy. Highschool is so hard.

    I could never talk to my mother about it, because when I did, she brushed it off as a "phase" until I was in the hospital. Parents really should be there to hear out whatever their children have to say, don't condemn them for fickle life choices. Talk to them, give them your wisdom and love, openness. I don't know anything about raising children. I just know what I needed back then. Assure them it does get better. Please.
  • cohophysh
    cohophysh Posts: 288
    thank you all for sharing your thoughts and stories, for some reason suicide seems to get swept under the table because people don't know what to say or how to talk about it.
  • Firefighter_Jay
    Firefighter_Jay Posts: 426 Member
    I know OP was referring to teens when the topic was posted. But with all the comments about how sad it is when teenagers take their own lives.... I just want to point out that it's tragic when someone does it at any age.
  • saragato
    saragato Posts: 1,154
    i attempted to OD when i was 14 this was after telling my parents i needed help because i thought about killing myself often and they did nothing, they didn't take me seriously, they like so many other people assumed at 14 i knew nothing and was just being dramatic and silly, im 21 now and all though yes my life has gotten better i still have days that i feel like i don't want to be here those are the days i end up thinking about how my parents never understood never listened, so you should tell parents to talk to their kids you should tell them to LISTEN to their kids, to read between the lines, to stop assuming at 12-14-16 and so on that they know nothing that they are too young times are different now kids grow up faster they learn things they shouldn't long before they should and pretending we live in a world where kids can grow up slow and ignorant is not going to help anything. im a wife and mother now and i know that as much as i may want my child to be a child for as long as possible she probably wont be and im not going to pretend she is, i will look for the signs and i will be there hopefully she wont suffer from depression the way i did.

    I had a similar experience with my own parents. I attempted suicide a few times, I cut my wrists manically (I became addicted and would use the sharp end of spiral notebook wire to cut during class) and I had very prominent signs of depression. My dad said I was a pain in the *kitten* (which he always said I was) and my mother thought I was imitating books I was reading or just being a dramatic teen. I failed 4 school years (luckily only repeating one) and after I tried ODing on painkillers at 18 I was taken to a psychiatrist because I was begging my mom to. They finally found out I'm bipolar among many other things. It still took years for my mother to treat my bad days and outbursts and desires to die even on medication as something serious.

    It's one of those things where, unless you've been there, you can't really know how to handle it. Parents are taught that teenagers are dramatic and whiny and "want to die" over everything that goes bad, and some parents just plain don't know what to do. And really at that age range, who spills their guts to their parents? At that time you're rebelling, just that much closer to growing up, and life's not always fun like it used to be.
  • Pebble321
    Pebble321 Posts: 6,423 Member
    Just bumping this topic up because, I agree, it's something we need to be able to talk about openly.

    And maybe take the opportunity to post any resources in your area - it might just help someone who is reading this but doesn't know where to turn or what to do.

    For any Australians who need help - please call Lifeline on 13 11 14
    http://www.lifeline.org.au/
  • saragato
    saragato Posts: 1,154
    It really is a shame when teenagers take there own lives. They really are mentally unstable at that age down to a physiological level.

    I personally attempted suicide during my teen years. I was absolutely manic all the time. Oddly enough it passed with puberty. Go figure. I've also prevented several friends from taking their own lives.

    I really wish schools and families made more effort to get there children's psychological state checked on a regular basis. Even if they don't suspect anything. So many conflicting feelings take place during that period in a persons live.

    From my experience that might be pretty difficult. I was diagnosed with depression at 15 (unrelated to my real problems, this was right after Hurricane Katrina and I had shut down almost literally) and the doctor refused to prescribe me anything because he believed no one under 18 could get depression and that it was illegal to give an underage person those drugs. Even at 18 I had psychiatrists telling me there was no possible way I had what I did, refused to test me for any of it, and I even had a therapist tell me I was getting the drugs just for fun, I was making myself miserable and just wanted to have attention and pity.

    Certain mental illnesses are hereditary. Certain illnesses can cause those feelings as well as some medications. If a kid's been traumatized in any way, been hurt by their peers or in general, it can cause those feelings. Yes teenagers are prone to hormone fluctuations, especially girls with their cycles, but that doesn't excuse suicidal or just even depressive behavior. I honestly wish children who seem at risk would be tested or at least given a counselor to talk to.
  • kdeaux1959
    kdeaux1959 Posts: 2,675 Member
    Depression is a serious MEDICAL condition. It is always best to assume anybody is serious if they make any comment to this end. It is one time it is better to be wrong and report it than to be right and do nothing. Become familiar with the signs of depression -- fatigue, talk of suicide, "life is not worth living", lack of energy, disturbed sleep patterns, etc. (WEBMD and other sources have a much more exhaustive list. Some treatment options can facilitate suicide so be especially aware if somebody starts feeling better suddenly that has been "in the dumps" for a while. Sometimes when a person starts getting energy, they have enough energy to make an attempt on their lives... Is the person seeming to "try to get their affairs in order"... have to see somebody they have not seen in a while all of a sudden... These things can all be warning signs. With the hormonal changes and the pressures our youth have it is a particularly vulnerable time... Also those who have been in war zones (PTSD) are also very much at risk. Take this very seriously. Thoughts lead to action.
  • kdeaux1959
    kdeaux1959 Posts: 2,675 Member
    REMEMBER THIS: As long as your body has breath, life can (and will) get better.
  • Arrica
    Arrica Posts: 166 Member
    Proud to say my 13 yr old just came home talking about a program they had at school earlier this week. It was called ACT, standing for ask, care, and tell an adult. I agree this is definately a topic that needs to be covered at that age for sure. It's a very tough age for kids.
  • KxK0509
    KxK0509 Posts: 28 Member
    I work in suicide prevention research and education. If anyone has any questions please feel free to ask.
  • Ruger2506
    Ruger2506 Posts: 309 Member
    Did that get your attention...parents, please talk to your children about suicide. The small community I am associated with lost a 14 yo to suicide a couple weeks ago and I just heard that a 15 yo has just tried to kill himself.

    I used to work in an ER. We say a lot of suicide "attempts". Pretty pitiful. Most of them were an attempt for attention. Those people received little compassion from the staff. Especially the kids who ate a bottle of pills. We had to force feed most of them the Activated Charcoal or Syrup of Ipecac (depending on the pills and how long since digestion).

    The worst were to self inflicted gun shot wounds. That was traumatic for everyone. Especially the poor person who had to discover that mess.

    Sadly a number of them didn't die immediately. They suffered for hours to days without a face.
  • cohophysh
    cohophysh Posts: 288
    the 15 year old didn't survive :(
  • cohophysh
    cohophysh Posts: 288
    I know OP was referring to teens when the topic was posted. But with all the comments about how sad it is when teenagers take their own lives.... I just want to point out that it's tragic when someone does it at any age.

    agreed
  • KxK0509
    KxK0509 Posts: 28 Member
    the 15 year old didn't survive :(

    I'm so sorry.
  • mamabear272
    mamabear272 Posts: 268 Member
    That's so sad! I'm so sorry to hear that.
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