10 Exercise Machines to Avoid (Yahoo Article)
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http://health.yahoo.net/articles/fitness/photos/10-exercise-machines-avoid#0
I personally agree with this article - just from personal experience. I am sure there are people out there that will disagree - but the machines seem to cause more damage then good. I am seeing more results from the alternate moves suggested that I do in my classes.
I copied and paste each below - but if you want to see the pics or don't know what something is - check out the link above for photos.
When it comes to working out, exercise machines aren’t always effective--or even safe. Here are the machines to skip next time you hit the gym, plus some alternative exercises to help you train smarter.
1.
Seated Leg Extension Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train the quadriceps.
What it actually does: It strengthens a motion your legs aren't actually designed to do, and can put undue strain on the ligaments and tendons surrounding the kneecaps.
A better exercise: One-Legged Body-Weight Squats
Lift one leg up and bend the opposite knee, dipping as far as you can, with control, while flexing at the hip, knee, and ankle. Use a rail for support until you develop requisite leg strength and balance. Aim for five to 10 reps on each leg. (If you are susceptible to knee pain, do the Bulgarian split squat instead, resting the top of one foot on a bench positioned two to three feet behind you. Descend until your thigh is parallel to the ground and then stand back up. Do five to 10 reps per leg.)
2.
Seated Shoulder Press Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train shoulders and triceps.
What it actually does: Overhead pressing can put shoulder joints in vulnerable biomechanical positions. It puts undue stress on the shoulders, and the movement doesn't let you use your hips to assist your shoulders, which is the natural way to push something overhead.
A better exercise: Medicine-Ball Throws
Stand three feet from a concrete wall; bounce a rubber medicine ball off a spot on the wall four feet above your head, squatting to catch the ball and rising to throw it upward in one continuous motion. Aim for 15 to 20 reps. Alternative: Standing alternate dumbbell presses. As you push the right dumbbell overhead, shift the right hip forward. Switch to the left side.
3.
Seated Behind-the-Neck Lat Pull-Down Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train lats, upper back, and biceps.
What it actually does: Unless you have very flexible shoulders, it's difficult to do correctly, so it can cause pinching in the shoulder joint and damage the rotator cuff.
A better exercise: Incline Pull-ups
Keeping your torso stiff, pull your chest to the bar 10 to 15 times. To make it harder, lower the bar; to make it easier, raise the bar.
4.
Seated Chest Fly Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train chest and shoulders.
What it actually does: It can put the shoulder in an unstable position and place excessive stress on the shoulder joint and its connective tissue.
A better exercise: Incline Push-Ups
Aim for 15 to 20 reps. If this is too easy, progress to regular push-ups, and aim for five to eight reps.
5.
Seated Hip Abductor Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train outer thighs.
What it actually does: Because you are seated, it trains a movement that has no functional use. If done with excessive weight and jerky technique, it can put undue pressure on the spine.
A better exercise: Lateral Band Walks
Place a heavy, short, looped resistance band around your legs (at your ankles); sidestep out 20 paces and back with control. This is much harder than it sounds.
6.
Seated Rotation Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train abdominals and obliques.
What it actually does: Because the pelvis doesn't move with the chest, this exercise can put excessive twisting forces on the spine.
A better exercise: Cable Wood Chop
Let your heels turn freely with your torso. Aim for 10 to 12 reps.
7.
Seated Leg Press Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train quadriceps, glutes, and hamstrings.
What it actually does: It often forces the spine to flex without engaging any of the necessary stabilization muscles of the hips, glutes, shoulders, and lower back.
A better exercise: Body-Weight Squats
Focus on descending with control as far as you can without rounding your lower back. Aim for 15 to 20 for a set and increase sets as you develop strength.
8.
Smith Machine Squats
What it's supposed to do: Train chest, biceps, and legs.
What it actually does: The alignment of the machine—the bar is attached to a vertical sliding track—makes for linear, not natural, arched movements. This puts stress on the knees, shoulders, and lower back.
A better exercise: Body-Weight Squats
Focus on descending with control as far as you can without rounding your lower back. Aim for 15 to 20 for a set and increase sets as you develop strength.
9.
Roman Chair Back Extension Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train spinal erectors.
What it actually does: Repeatedly flexing the back while it's supporting weight places pressure on the spine and increases the risk of damaging your disks.
A better exercise: The Bird-Dog
Crouch on all fours, extend your right arm forward, and extend left leg backward. Do 10 seven-second reps, and then switch to the opposite side.
10.
Roman Chair Sit-up
What it's supposed to do: Train abdominals and hip flexors.
What it actually does: The crunching motion can put undue stress on the lower back when it is in a vulnerable rounded position.
A better exercise: The Plank
Lie facedown on the floor. Prop up on your forearms, palms down. Rise up on your toes. Keep your back flat and contract your glutes, abdominals, and lats to keep your butt from sticking up. Hold this pose for 20 to 60 seconds.
I personally agree with this article - just from personal experience. I am sure there are people out there that will disagree - but the machines seem to cause more damage then good. I am seeing more results from the alternate moves suggested that I do in my classes.
I copied and paste each below - but if you want to see the pics or don't know what something is - check out the link above for photos.
When it comes to working out, exercise machines aren’t always effective--or even safe. Here are the machines to skip next time you hit the gym, plus some alternative exercises to help you train smarter.
1.
Seated Leg Extension Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train the quadriceps.
What it actually does: It strengthens a motion your legs aren't actually designed to do, and can put undue strain on the ligaments and tendons surrounding the kneecaps.
A better exercise: One-Legged Body-Weight Squats
Lift one leg up and bend the opposite knee, dipping as far as you can, with control, while flexing at the hip, knee, and ankle. Use a rail for support until you develop requisite leg strength and balance. Aim for five to 10 reps on each leg. (If you are susceptible to knee pain, do the Bulgarian split squat instead, resting the top of one foot on a bench positioned two to three feet behind you. Descend until your thigh is parallel to the ground and then stand back up. Do five to 10 reps per leg.)
2.
Seated Shoulder Press Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train shoulders and triceps.
What it actually does: Overhead pressing can put shoulder joints in vulnerable biomechanical positions. It puts undue stress on the shoulders, and the movement doesn't let you use your hips to assist your shoulders, which is the natural way to push something overhead.
A better exercise: Medicine-Ball Throws
Stand three feet from a concrete wall; bounce a rubber medicine ball off a spot on the wall four feet above your head, squatting to catch the ball and rising to throw it upward in one continuous motion. Aim for 15 to 20 reps. Alternative: Standing alternate dumbbell presses. As you push the right dumbbell overhead, shift the right hip forward. Switch to the left side.
3.
Seated Behind-the-Neck Lat Pull-Down Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train lats, upper back, and biceps.
What it actually does: Unless you have very flexible shoulders, it's difficult to do correctly, so it can cause pinching in the shoulder joint and damage the rotator cuff.
A better exercise: Incline Pull-ups
Keeping your torso stiff, pull your chest to the bar 10 to 15 times. To make it harder, lower the bar; to make it easier, raise the bar.
4.
Seated Chest Fly Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train chest and shoulders.
What it actually does: It can put the shoulder in an unstable position and place excessive stress on the shoulder joint and its connective tissue.
A better exercise: Incline Push-Ups
Aim for 15 to 20 reps. If this is too easy, progress to regular push-ups, and aim for five to eight reps.
5.
Seated Hip Abductor Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train outer thighs.
What it actually does: Because you are seated, it trains a movement that has no functional use. If done with excessive weight and jerky technique, it can put undue pressure on the spine.
A better exercise: Lateral Band Walks
Place a heavy, short, looped resistance band around your legs (at your ankles); sidestep out 20 paces and back with control. This is much harder than it sounds.
6.
Seated Rotation Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train abdominals and obliques.
What it actually does: Because the pelvis doesn't move with the chest, this exercise can put excessive twisting forces on the spine.
A better exercise: Cable Wood Chop
Let your heels turn freely with your torso. Aim for 10 to 12 reps.
7.
Seated Leg Press Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train quadriceps, glutes, and hamstrings.
What it actually does: It often forces the spine to flex without engaging any of the necessary stabilization muscles of the hips, glutes, shoulders, and lower back.
A better exercise: Body-Weight Squats
Focus on descending with control as far as you can without rounding your lower back. Aim for 15 to 20 for a set and increase sets as you develop strength.
8.
Smith Machine Squats
What it's supposed to do: Train chest, biceps, and legs.
What it actually does: The alignment of the machine—the bar is attached to a vertical sliding track—makes for linear, not natural, arched movements. This puts stress on the knees, shoulders, and lower back.
A better exercise: Body-Weight Squats
Focus on descending with control as far as you can without rounding your lower back. Aim for 15 to 20 for a set and increase sets as you develop strength.
9.
Roman Chair Back Extension Machine
What it's supposed to do: Train spinal erectors.
What it actually does: Repeatedly flexing the back while it's supporting weight places pressure on the spine and increases the risk of damaging your disks.
A better exercise: The Bird-Dog
Crouch on all fours, extend your right arm forward, and extend left leg backward. Do 10 seven-second reps, and then switch to the opposite side.
10.
Roman Chair Sit-up
What it's supposed to do: Train abdominals and hip flexors.
What it actually does: The crunching motion can put undue stress on the lower back when it is in a vulnerable rounded position.
A better exercise: The Plank
Lie facedown on the floor. Prop up on your forearms, palms down. Rise up on your toes. Keep your back flat and contract your glutes, abdominals, and lats to keep your butt from sticking up. Hold this pose for 20 to 60 seconds.
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Thanks for this!0
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For once, I actually agree with a Yahoo aticle..
But then I'm biased against most lifts that aren't squats or deadlifts.0 -
Thanks for this!
I do what I can! lol... Like i said - i am sure there will be some that disagree - but there are definite exercises that are nicer to your joints and body compared to some of these machines! I totally skip these machines now when I am at the gym and go for the free weights and do classes that involve a lot of step, lunges, squats, medicine balls and other things that feel more natural.
The seated Chest Fly Machine and the Lat Pull Down machines were created by the devil when it comes to shoulders! lol.0 -
I disagree with some of them, but I will agree that getting away from the machines is a lot better in general. I only use machines at the gym because I can't get to the free weights! (Right in with student housing, and PF does not have many free weights, so all the frat boys are busy using them when I'm there!) I'll be purchasing my own equipment for home once I have my house...
I do agree that some of the machines do force you into unhealthy positions!0 -
For once, I actually agree with a Yahoo aticle..
But then I'm biased against most lifts that aren't squats or deadlifts.
^^^^THIS^^^^ Normally the same way - haha - but they hit the nail on the head with this one.0 -
Thanks for this!
I do what I can! lol... Like i said - i am sure there will be some that disagree - but there are definite exercises that are nicer to your joints and body compared to some of these machines! I totally skip these machines now when I am at the gym and go for the free weights and do classes that involve a lot of step, lunges, squats, medicine balls and other things that feel more natural.
The seated Chest Fly Machine and the Lat Pull Down machines were created by the devil when it comes to shoulders! lol.
lol, I only use 2 weight machines at the gym. The assisted chin up/dip machine, and a low row machine. I use free weights for everything else.0 -
I agree and disagree with these. Yahoo should've put more focus on how to do certain movements safely because everything can be bad if done incorrectly.
1. There is still plenty of stress being put on the knee in a unilateral movement. This is a potato / potatoe thing...
2. I think overhead pressing is best done with a barbell or dumbells anyway. Yahoo's statement is very general because certain machines like the Hammer Strength OHP machine has a very solid design. Medicine ball throws don't replace weighted lifts and catching a medicine ball can be dangerous, can't believe they suggested it.
3. Agree, that's why you do lat pulldowns to the front, or use a neutral bar to the front, or use a neutral bar while standing. Too generalized.
4. Disagree with this period. If you're being smart, there's no reason not to do flys. Again, bodyweight exercises don't replace weighted exercise, they have different purposes.
5. Nothing wrong with the machine or the lateral band walks. Again, Yahoo mentions excess weight and jerky motion... well no kidding somebody will hurt their self, GENIUS! Work smart, always.
6. 100% agree, if your hips don't rotate with your back you're opening yourself up to problems.
7. Leg Press Machine... stupid. Lift smart. Body weight squats don't replace weighted squats or leg presses... ugh
8. Smith Machine... yes and no. There are safe ways to utilize it but free weights are better. Again with the bodyweight squats... ugh
9. Another situation of doing an exercise correctly. Nothing wrong with the bird dog either.
10. This is pretty subjective and I've read as many articles speaking against situps as I have those supporting them. Feel what works best for your back.
Use free weights when you can.0 -
ditch all of the machines/10
the only machines that are really beneficial for getting stronger are a reverse hyper and a belt squat machine.
everything else can be done with free weights.0 -
But almost every alternative that they suggested were bodyweight exercises. I mean why even bother going to the gym if you're not going to use anything they have to offer. LOL Not a single 'alternative' used weights.0
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But almost every alternative that they suggested were bodyweight exercises. I mean why even bother going to the gym if you're not going to use anything they have to offer. LOL Not a single 'alternative' used weights.
Agreed. What this article really teaches is...
1. Don't go to Yahoo for fitness related information.
2. Learn to use free weights for as much as you can.0 -
Every single exercise machine has a better option you can do with free weights or your own body weight... imagine that.0
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That sounds like basically every weight machine...?? Not that I have to worry because I don't lift nor do I go to the gym. Just sounds like these days that we have to live in a nutshell and deprive ourselves to be healthy....everything kills us apparently.0
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For once, I actually agree with a Yahoo aticle..
But then I'm biased against most lifts that aren't squats or deadlifts.
^^^^THIS^^^^ Normally the same way - haha - but they hit the nail on the head with this one.
Same here, the fact that it said Yahoo article made me click it thinking "oh no", they are usually terrible, it's like they employ 12 year old journalists for most articles.0 -
Why would you suggest body weight squats instead of Smith Machine squats? Why wouldn't you replace them with barbell squats?
I agree with the premise of ditching the machines, free weights are always better, but this article made some really silly, and sometimes even just plain stupid, suggestions for alternatives.0 -
Thank you for this info. I have a bowflex at home I haven't used yet, and I've printed out this info to look at when I have time. Maybe I'll skip some of the exercises on it and do some of the alternatives instead.0
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Good to know. Thanks!0
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Bump for later...0
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That sounds like basically every weight machine...?? Not that I have to worry because I don't lift nor do I go to the gym. Just sounds like these days that we have to live in a nutshell and deprive ourselves to be healthy....everything kills us apparently.
Don't forget about sodium... it's everywhere! it's everywhere!0 -
I agree and disagree with these. Yahoo should've put more focus on how to do certain movements safely because everything can be bad if done incorrectly.
1. There is still plenty of stress being put on the knee in a unilateral movement. This is a potato / potatoe thing...
2. I think overhead pressing is best done with a barbell or dumbells anyway. Yahoo's statement is very general because certain machines like the Hammer Strength OHP machine has a very solid design. Medicine ball throws don't replace weighted lifts and catching a medicine ball can be dangerous, can't believe they suggested it.
3. Agree, that's why you do lat pulldowns to the front, or use a neutral bar to the front, or use a neutral bar while standing. Too generalized.
4. Disagree with this period. If you're being smart, there's no reason not to do flys. Again, bodyweight exercises don't replace weighted exercise, they have different purposes.
5. Nothing wrong with the machine or the lateral band walks. Again, Yahoo mentions excess weight and jerky motion... well no kidding somebody will hurt their self, GENIUS! Work smart, always.
6. 100% agree, if your hips don't rotate with your back you're opening yourself up to problems.
7. Leg Press Machine... stupid. Lift smart. Body weight squats don't replace weighted squats or leg presses... ugh
8. Smith Machine... yes and no. There are safe ways to utilize it but free weights are better. Again with the bodyweight squats... ugh
9. Another situation of doing an exercise correctly. Nothing wrong with the bird dog either.
10. This is pretty subjective and I've read as many articles speaking against situps as I have those supporting them. Feel what works best for your back.
Use free weights when you can.
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I agree and disagree with these. Yahoo should've put more focus on how to do certain movements safely because everything can be bad if done incorrectly.
1. There is still plenty of stress being put on the knee in a unilateral movement. This is a potato / potatoe thing...
2. I think overhead pressing is best done with a barbell or dumbells anyway. Yahoo's statement is very general because certain machines like the Hammer Strength OHP machine has a very solid design. Medicine ball throws don't replace weighted lifts and catching a medicine ball can be dangerous, can't believe they suggested it.
3. Agree, that's why you do lat pulldowns to the front, or use a neutral bar to the front, or use a neutral bar while standing. Too generalized.
4. Disagree with this period. If you're being smart, there's no reason not to do flys. Again, bodyweight exercises don't replace weighted exercise, they have different purposes.
5. Nothing wrong with the machine or the lateral band walks. Again, Yahoo mentions excess weight and jerky motion... well no kidding somebody will hurt their self, GENIUS! Work smart, always.
6. 100% agree, if your hips don't rotate with your back you're opening yourself up to problems.
7. Leg Press Machine... stupid. Lift smart. Body weight squats don't replace weighted squats or leg presses... ugh
8. Smith Machine... yes and no. There are safe ways to utilize it but free weights are better. Again with the bodyweight squats... ugh
9. Another situation of doing an exercise correctly. Nothing wrong with the bird dog either.
10. This is pretty subjective and I've read as many articles speaking against situps as I have those supporting them. Feel what works best for your back.
Use free weights when you can.
^^This
^^This. Body weight squats are not going to really do anything for me at this point. I mean, they would eventually get my heart rate up? lol0
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