Carbs addict help

Hi everyone ,

im currently 178 Ibs i would like to get back to 135ibs ,ok my hardest and biggest problem is carbs,for a longtime now i eaten them my husband and he family african and the food i got used to eating and love to eat is all heavy rice,pasta,bread and potato

i tried to cut carbs and the weight lost from my face quick but as soon as i eat them again it like i ballon up,does this mean i have a allergy,also i feel very week without them but i feel the only way ill loose weight is by avoiding carbs ,ive switched from white carbs to brown and sweet potato insted of white ?is this ok or will it still bloat me can i loose weight and eat carbs?if so how often can i eat them for e.g is it best to have rice or pasta as a treat once a week n maybve just wholegrain bread in morniing?

please help?
thanks

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  • graelwyn
    graelwyn Posts: 1,340 Member
    For me, personally, the main foods that make me bloat are those with wheat in, such as bread and pasta so I avoid those.
    I have no problem with brown, long grain rice or with baked potatoes and those don't put weight on me as part of a balanced diet.
    I try and avoid unhealthy carbs like cake, biscuits etc, but do have some chocolate sometimes.

    Sweet potatoes are a good start, but I don't see any reason to limit rice if it is brown rice. I find bread the greater culprit for weight gain personally.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Vegetables are carbs. Your body needs carbs. But yes, you will probably see results if you cut out the unhealthy kind of carbs.
  • MOTH477
    MOTH477 Posts: 17
    I just checked my dairy and I allowed to eat 258grams of Carbs. Is that too much? Also, I eat Yoplait light which is high in carbs. So should I cut that out?
  • Marll
    Marll Posts: 904 Member
    Limit carbs to vegtables and cut out anything wheat, corn and oat related. Don't eat anything "light" or "fat-free" as they try to make up for the lack of taste in the products (which happens when you take out fat) by adding a ton of sugar.
  • ekaterinip
    ekaterinip Posts: 17 Member
    I had started restricting carbs, extremely low. I started sometime like, August 1, and stopped before, Thanksgiving. Not because of the holiday, but because I had stomach flu like symptoms. Three months of it, continuously, was all that I could take. I wanted to stick it out longer. But after a long while, even my son said, I needed to try another diet. I am thinking about restarting another low carb diet. And maybe not try to be in such a strict phase, especially for so long. As a vegetarian, which I am, you can start with more, but even then that is too low for me. All the past times, I did not stick it out so long. But still got sick, just the same. I don't think that I ever learned to diet the right way. I know for sure, that I am resistant to carbs, like an allergic reaction, I suppose. They say too mu sugar alcohol in candy will give you that effect, but the past times, I never ate any, and still had the same outcome. If anyone has good results eating a certain amount I would love to hear about it. For everyone's intolerance if very different. Mine is surly pretty low. The say to stay in that ketosis state, I might not of said it correctly. Anyway, you need not eat more than 50 total carbs per day, and some people have had to stay at 40 to be able to loose. That is too low for me. I get a very bad outcome when I do, especially when I add the net carbs from foundation vegetables, meaning not the starchy ones. I am willing to try it again, but not so strict next time, more like a customized plan, which they also advise on doing, But as a friend, had said, you sometimes get caught in something that's called dogma dieting! Or dogmatic dieting! I guess, I was always one of those. It sure would be nice to keep this board going! And to each find something that might truly work for us, individually! I would love to loose 40-50lbs. by Summer mid/end of July to beginning of August, for a trip that my husband has his heart, and mind on!
  • Leylaos
    Leylaos Posts: 136 Member
    thank you all for your answers and yes i wouldnt cut out vegtables as carbs your right tbh i dont think of them as carbs silly me im worried about pasta,rice bread ,so if i change to brown can oi still eat them daily or isit best to say have brown pasta one week as treat then rice the next?like that? n i have weight watchers danish bread is that ok ? does anyone else bloated n face go puffy when eating these foods? i always feel hungrey if i dont eat them as my body used to having far too much so im slowly trying to reduce them .
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    I am at the point I can no longer digest potatoes, breads, flour, rice, corn, pasta - after being without for nearly a year - I can tell when foods have an additive relating to this group of starches - I now have bleeding kankar sores and have a reaction....

    It took me three days to get used to that food elimination - mind you I had no choice but to do cold turkey for my health (Insulin Resistance, Metabolic Disorder and PCOS).. Once I stabilized, I no longer had the carb-addict's headaches.

    I do though have to make sure that my breakfast has at least a total of 30g of carbohydrates otherwise I get extremely sick.

    Thankfully I eat fresh foods every day so making good food choices is never a problem.
  • Leylaos
    Leylaos Posts: 136 Member
    sorry to hear that i feel really guilty now complaining about bloating when theres people like u suffering n having no choice but to give them up ,sorry

    ur right about cold turkey tho best way for many addictions
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    sorry to hear that i feel really guilty now complaining about bloating when theres people like u suffering n having no choice but to give them up ,sorry

    ur right about cold turkey tho best way for many addictions

    You have no reason to be sorry.... be THANKFUL you dont get bleeding kankar sores with horrible pouty lips of swelling! LOL!!!!!!

    Im this way because of being dedicated to no longer having them.... And, when someone wants to be nice and give me something (or in my mother's case, deliberately use), I can tell there is an ingredient off my eliminated list being used...

    What sucks the most is, I perform with two music-performing groups in my area as a Bassoon player. Its plum-difficult to play when your mouth is sore while healing..... lol!!!!!
  • Leylaos
    Leylaos Posts: 136 Member
    it shows how bad they are tho aww bless ya lol some women would love to have that look of swallon lips haha

    me when i eat them i look like im 6 month pregnant n my face goes really fat lol :(
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    it shows how bad they are tho aww bless ya lol some women would love to have that look of swallon lips haha

    me when i eat them i look like im 6 month pregnant n my face goes really fat lol :(
    nuh nuh nuh nuh no... no one wants the kind of swollen lips I get. Being a musician, you cant play very well that way! LOL
  • ekaterinip
    ekaterinip Posts: 17 Member
    I am also bloated in the face. I have hypothyroidism. I truly believe my problem started from not eating enough. And never being able to diet the right way. You said, the magic word, slowly go down on them. You did not say eliminate them altogether. I am going to try doing, exactly just that, and move more! meaning walking or even some exercising! You have got a great board! I wish we can keep it going for a while! For motivation purposes, for everyone of us! Now how much it depends on the individual. It might even be a trial, and error thing till you find out. Mine is set for total carbs on MFP on 202g per day I believe. Some time ago. I think to avoid too low I am going to leave it like that for now. The computer did that some time ago. If I can bring it more down that will be fine. But not too low. Remember potatoes, corn, and peas are starchy carbs, not that you should not eat them, they are just more starchy ones. For example if you plan on eating 3 starchy carbs per day. Your whole bread is one, half a cup of brown rice, or potatoes would be one serving, and so would half a cup of your corn, or your peas. Now, you might be able to eat more, just a rule of thumb as they say. Say for example you counted points they would tell you the same thing, and if you followed a low carb lifestyle program they call them foundation vegetables, meaning the non starchy ones, And on another program they would say filling food. The milk, fat free, cheese fat free and those king of things. They all have their way of counting things. Here it is great because it has everything set up for you. For example mine is set to loose .8lbs per week. Which would be 38.4 lbs in a year. for me I would want that to be more like 4 months. But the computer at the time was trying to think realistically, and safely-healthy. So for now, I am going to leave it like that. Just need the motivation to do this, and to do it the right way, for the long run, is all!
  • happystars82
    happystars82 Posts: 225 Member
    i have similar problem to u, i love my carbs and eat alot of bread, ryvita etc....but i also remain in my cal goal,,, i would love to cut down on carbs but i'm stumped as to what to eat.. i know abviously more protein but meal ideas i just don;t have them.. lol any suggestions? Good luck OP.. add me if u like>x
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    Remember potatoes, corn, and peas are starchy carbs, not that you should not eat them, they are just more starchy ones. For example if you plan on eating 3 starchy carbs per day. Your whole bread is one, half a cup of brown rice, or potatoes would be one serving, and so would half a cup of your corn, or your peas. Now, you might be able to eat more, just a rule of thumb as they say.


    Well, the whole "as they say" does not apply to me... and does not apply with everyone. Im pretty confident in my 15+ years working in healthcare, that all of the allergy tests and labs truly showed I had allergies and sensitivities... I dont plan on eating starchy carbs ever again.
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    i have similar problem to u, i love my carbs and eat alot of bread, ryvita etc....but i also remain in my cal goal,,, i would love to cut down on carbs but i'm stumped as to what to eat.. i know abviously more protein but meal ideas i just don;t have them.. lol any suggestions? Good luck OP.. add me if u like>x

    Its actually alot easier than what people think. I dont miss those foods anymore because I got over the 'addiction' my body had for them.

    Instead of pasta/rice - I use: shirataki, spaghetti squash, threads of zucchini and/or summer squash
    Instead of bread - I enjoy more Korean-style dishes where they use lettuce as the holder
    Instead of corn (which is a grain, by the way), I simply select another food item that is NOT a grain...

    Its too easy
  • tamspat
    tamspat Posts: 23
    bump
  • ekaterinip
    ekaterinip Posts: 17 Member
    I was just wondering can you have soy noodles? If you can find them, of course. I have a low carb mix. I only made it once. I keep it on the table, like forever, freeze it, then take it out. I guess I do focus on all the family eats. I was wondering if anyone knows how to really avoid stomach flu like symptom's from going extremely low carb. That's really my biggest problem, and drawback, and why I give up. Last time I stuck to it through those three straight really rough months. If someone does not have health issues, what would be a good start with total carbs per day, and how low would they go with it? Now they do suggest 50 total carbs per day to be able to burn, in ketosis. For some that is too low, then they suggest going up by 5 net carbs per week to see where you can loose. I am afraid for me the 202g would be too high, even when my calories are really low, I cannot loose the weight, but I would actually do the opposite and gain weight. I believe I also have an intolerance to wheat, grain, even rice, cor, peas, and stuff like that for my body to loose. Allergic meaning in weight terms. It is nice to learn and educate ourselves. And to see what works, and what does not for each of us. It all depends on the person. I am trying to restart my lower carbohydrate diet, but not to go too low this time. I don't think that I would be able to handle it again, my body, meaning.
  • ekaterinip
    ekaterinip Posts: 17 Member
    There are a lot of low carb site, I don't know if I can mention them or not, so I wont. There are those popular low carb site, one in particular. For me it told me me to eat 45-50 net carbs, for 30 was too low, especially as a vegetarian. I am aiming for between there and 75 net carbs. will be a bit more for the total carbs. The net carbs you get when you take the total carbs, and then subtract the fiber from it, and the sugar alcohol, like it diet candy, diet sugar free chocolate candies, ecetra. It is really that simple. I do not always do 12-15 net carbs in vegetables, but they also suggest that. There are a lot of great recipes on this site, plus on a lot more sites. I enjoy my Greek Village salads, that's with the feta cheese, olives, oregano salt, extra virgin olive oil, tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers if you wish, onions. No lettuce, and we don't put the vinegar either, thus the meaning Greek village salad. I guess because they made them before the seasons lettuce was out, or right after it ended in the village, and therefore the name, and it is so great, as well! Hope you find many great recipes. Good luck to all! Kathy
  • ekaterinip
    ekaterinip Posts: 17 Member
    As I had previously said, if I go like 20-30net carbs I have stomach flu like symptoms,, really bad. If I had no choice, and was ill I would go that low, but for me, my body won't allow it. I know I have a wheat sensitivity or allergy to the sense of the word my body weight won't budge to loose, not even with low calories. I have found out the hard way with too many years of yo-yo dieting. Even 50 total carbs is still too low for me. But I find with 70-120 net carbs I do a lot better. I just have to play it by ear and see. It will be a trial, and error thing. For the 3 starches per day is still too much for me. That was just an example, someone else more active or not might be fine with it. Like I said it is merely an individual thing. I am so glad I totally did not give up with low card, and for good, because I was about to do that. Hopefully we can still support each other, with how ever we can come to the boards. I myself have not been on too many so far. Good luck to all in finding the right carbs for their bodies, and still loose the weight!
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    I was wondering if anyone knows how to really avoid stomach flu like symptom's from going extremely low carb. That's really my biggest problem, and drawback, and why I give up.

    Unfortunately the whole process of becoming accustomed to a lower-carb intake you will have some very loose stools to begin with. The body is making an adaptation - and the unpleasantness will ease in time.
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    Its actually alot easier than what people think. I dont miss those foods anymore because I got over the 'addiction' my body had for them.

    Instead of pasta/rice - I use: shirataki, spaghetti squash, threads of zucchini and/or summer squash
    Instead of bread - I enjoy more Korean-style dishes where they use lettuce as the holder
    Instead of corn (which is a grain, by the way), I simply select another food item that is NOT a grain...

    Its too easy

    Someone please stop this person from publicly lying and spreading this non sense.. it is absoltuely NOT easy to quit carbs..!

    I've quit smoking, alcohol, soda pop, processed sugar (all of which in their own right were tough to quit), and still, I cant quit these so called terrible starchy carbs such as corn, potatoes, breads..nor by the way do I find it necessary to.. if I dont eat at least some portion of starchy carbs in EVERY meal, I would simply remain hungry and endlessly eat. I also find my lifts (I exercise regularly) for the day will suffer dramatically without proper portioning of carbs specifically starchy carbs.. They didnt accidently call strong kids/people "corn fed" cause they ate their raspberries today. Just "food for thought" ..

    Btw I'm 31/M 6'2"/190lbs and I can squat 500lbs and bench 350lbs (basically i'm in shape, not trying to get there like many people on here who hear something they read once by some guy with abs in an advertisement and just blindly suggest it to you)

    You dont need to be rude to me. For me, it was easy where I was having bad reactions
  • ekaterinip
    ekaterinip Posts: 17 Member
    I tried to stick with it for three straight months guys. I will go back and check on you guy's ideas. And I really appreciate them. I know it is all in the body, how everyone endures how low they go. I went really, really low. Can any one of you share how low you go? If you want to share it. And did it cause you stomach flu? If it did, what did you do? Because I tried the salt, and water thing to make sure I had enough, but it did not work for me. I am slowly, slowly lowering them back down again. Unfortunately not low enough, the scale has escalated sky high for me. But, I am trying real hard not to give up. It works, for sure it does, and I loose the weight. It is just avoiding getting sick! I am going back and reading what all you guys are saying, and I am enjoying it, and glad the board is still going!
  • ekaterinip
    ekaterinip Posts: 17 Member
    Some people do get sick, or have bad reactions with their bodies. It all depends on ones system, you know. Some people have no problems and can loose, and some people might develop something in the long run. I have this trip toward the end of July, overseas. And two people one of which told me how I had let myself go. If we don't know what the other person goes through it is easy to say. I am just talking about me here, and my past trip. I am going to go back again! Spiritually let me tell you it is not going to be easy. I want to find the solution to my body, now for me it won't be easy. A lot of trial, and error will happen along the way. Well, again for me it did. Might be different for you. I think we can all be nice, and adults here. And I love talking to you girls, because in life that's how we learn. We all learn differently, and at our own pace. What do you guys think? I don't think my body can handle too many carbs guys, and I need all the help that I can get here! Can we all just be nice to each other?
  • RachelsReboot
    RachelsReboot Posts: 569 Member
    Someone please stop this person from publicly lying and spreading this non sense.. it is absoltuely NOT easy to quit carbs..!

    I've quit smoking, alcohol, soda pop, processed sugar (all of which in their own right were tough to quit), and still, I cant quit these so called terrible starchy carbs such as corn, potatoes, breads..nor by the way do I find it necessary to.. if I dont eat at least some portion of starchy carbs in EVERY meal, I would simply remain hungry and endlessly eat. I also find my lifts (I exercise regularly) for the day will suffer dramatically without proper portioning of carbs specifically starchy carbs.. They didnt accidently call strong kids/people "corn fed" cause they ate their raspberries today. Just "food for thought" ..

    Btw I'm 31/M 6'2"/190lbs and I can squat 500lbs and bench 350lbs (basically i'm in shape, not trying to get there like many people on here who hear something they read once by some guy with abs in an advertisement and just blindly suggest it to you)

    Whooooaa hold up there buddy, who the heck are you to call someone a liar. I am in the same boat as her and it's a lot easier than you think especially when it's your health at risk, both of the people on this thread are complaining of adverse reactions to carbohydrates and are asking for advise, they are receiving it from someone who has experience with that very thing. That does not mean she is lying. Did you get upset because it was easier for a girl than it was for a "big macho guy" like you claim to be with your claims of squating 500 and benching 350? Maybe you should be called out on that and someone should stop you from posting it until you can prove it.
  • sphinxdust
    sphinxdust Posts: 59 Member
    Limit carbs to vegtables and cut out anything wheat, corn and oat related. Don't eat anything "light" or "fat-free" as they try to make up for the lack of taste in the products (which happens when you take out fat) by adding a ton of sugar.
    Yes! That's why this app is great! Eat carbs from vegetables, input your meals, and you'll see what your carb intake is. If you cut out all added sugar, you will lose weight faster. Eat more protein and your metabolism will quicken as well. Good luck.
  • Leylaos
    Leylaos Posts: 136 Member
    thanks all for replys ive cut down on carbs n my face looking less bloated ,also drinking alot of water helps with bloating. the calorie counter is very good i have been in my limit with carbs but i didnt relise i go over my sugar intake ,i dont each much sweet so didnt relise but i go over it abit each day from ceral,yogurts n fruit mostly so i know now i need to variety it n change my routine abit,also im thinking to have a allergy test done as i do get itching skin n eyes so maybe i could have a food allergy also.

    please add me peeps n i made a group Halal Tasty Low Fat Recipes (Homemade)


    its for us all to share healthy recipe ideas :) i put halal but all recipes welcome
  • Monti_e_lmt
    Monti_e_lmt Posts: 189 Member
    As I had previously said, if I go like 20-30net carbs I have stomach flu like symptoms,, really bad. If I had no choice, and was ill I would go that low, but for me, my body won't allow it. I know I have a wheat sensitivity or allergy to the sense of the word my body weight won't budge to loose, not even with low calories. I have found out the hard way with too many years of yo-yo dieting. Even 50 total carbs is still too low for me. But I find with 70-120 net carbs I do a lot better. I just have to play it by ear and see. It will be a trial, and error thing. For the 3 starches per day is still too much for me. That was just an example, someone else more active or not might be fine with it. Like I said it is merely an individual thing. I am so glad I totally did not give up with low card, and for good, because I was about to do that. Hopefully we can still support each other, with how ever we can come to the boards. I myself have not been on too many so far. Good luck to all in finding the right carbs for their bodies, and still loose the weight!

    ^ I agree. Carbs are on an individual basis just like calories are and work out routines are. Everyone has different body types. Some do really well with high carb diets and counting just calories, some do well with balanced carb and calories, and some have to concentrate on avoiding carbs. A big thing that is widely unknown is a gluten allergy. It can make you blimp up. Ask your doctor for the best advice for you. Now I do know for a fact, from personal experience, that too little carbs with too much protein could do kidney damage. Again ask your doctor for what is right for you.
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    thanks all for replys ive cut down on carbs n my face looking less bloated ,also drinking alot of water helps with bloating. the calorie counter is very good i have been in my limit with carbs but i didnt relise i go over my sugar intake ,i dont each much sweet so didnt relise but i go over it abit each day from ceral,yogurts n fruit mostly so i know now i need to variety it n change my routine abit,also im thinking to have a allergy test done as i do get itching skin n eyes so maybe i could have a food allergy also.

    please add me peeps n i made a group Halal Tasty Low Fat Recipes (Homemade)


    its for us all to share healthy recipe ideas :) i put halal but all recipes welcome

    Im a definite advocate for trying new cultural type foods.. Ive been interested in Halal but we have nothing in our immediate area despite the fact my city has over 80 different cultures represented...

    Yeah, Rachel thanks for coming to my defense as well as others... It IS easy when after doing the necessary blood work to see what reactions can occur with lab results. Im thankful to understand all of it - Ive got co-workers who are amazed at the appeals I can do with insurance companies knowing what labs are representing, what values they are, how to read complex surgical notes, etc... When I read my own labs I nearly crapped myself... The Endo knew I was going to be compliant not just because I understand the medical necessity of it, but because I work in the same industry as she does, she knows compliancy will never be an issue...
  • mikeyboy
    mikeyboy Posts: 1,057 Member
    Someone please stop this person from publicly lying and spreading this non sense.. it is absoltuely NOT easy to quit carbs..!

    I've quit smoking, alcohol, soda pop, processed sugar (all of which in their own right were tough to quit), and still, I cant quit these so called terrible starchy carbs such as corn, potatoes, breads..nor by the way do I find it necessary to.. if I dont eat at least some portion of starchy carbs in EVERY meal, I would simply remain hungry and endlessly eat. I also find my lifts (I exercise regularly) for the day will suffer dramatically without proper portioning of carbs specifically starchy carbs.. They didnt accidently call strong kids/people "corn fed" cause they ate their raspberries today. Just "food for thought" ..

    Btw I'm 31/M 6'2"/190lbs and I can squat 500lbs and bench 350lbs (basically i'm in shape, not trying to get there like many people on here who hear something they read once by some guy with abs in an advertisement and just blindly suggest it to you)

    Whooooaa hold up there buddy, who the heck are you to call someone a liar. I am in the same boat as her and it's a lot easier than you think especially when it's your health at risk, both of the people on this thread are complaining of adverse reactions to carbohydrates and are asking for advise, they are receiving it from someone who has experience with that very thing. That does not mean she is lying. Did you get upset because it was easier for a girl than it was for a "big macho guy" like you claim to be with your claims of squating 500 and benching 350? Maybe you should be called out on that and someone should stop you from posting it until you can prove it.

    Well said! A person's reason for quitting often reflects on the difficulty in that area. Again, good point!