SUGAR... natural or artificial
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question - where does turbinado fit into all this? friend? or foe?0
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question - where does turbinado fit into all this? friend? or foe?0
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This is a big debate...
I used to eat a lot of equal , etc., like 12 packs or more a day , put in oatmeal, yogurt, coffee everything. Also I drank a little diet Pepsi daily
As of a week ago I stopped because Im trying to go as close to raw and plant-based as I can.
I guess artificial sweeteners can be good for diabetics and people who are trying to lose weight but it has to be broken down in the liver and if you use it throughout the day you're not giving your liver a break ...
The liver helps break down fat and flushes toxins out of your body so I thought it would be good for ME to quit the fake sugars so my liver can break down fat and flush out all the crap I was putting in my body a week ago. I have lost a few pounds and let me say this is HUGE because I haven't lost in 5 months ( I have Hashimoto's(hypothyroid) I am wondering if all the artificial sweeteners I was ingesting was part of the reason I wasn't losing weight ..
Anybody with an auto-immune disease/disorder should consider limiting extra chemicals, toxins, hormones, and animal products because our immune system is already compromised and could use some TLC on our part, I know I would do anything if I can to help my thyroid to function better, because medicines are not gonna make me feel 100% better.
Also just because something is "natural" doesnt mean its good for you and vice versa. Whatever works for you and makes you feel healthy go for it!0 -
I'm diabetic, so I should really watch my sugars. I've gotten to the point where I no longer need diabetic drugs, my sugars are controlled naturally through diet and exercise. So here's my take with that background.
I stay away from anything that has aspartame...I also stay away from things like equal or sweet n' low. (I stay away from diet anything really, just usually leaves a strange aftertaste. -_-) For a while, I used splenda because supposedly it was better for you because it was derived from sugar, but as studies progressed, the final verdict on splenda because more grey...sort of the path that aspartame studies followed. So I switched to stevia, which I only use very occasionally now because the verdict is also starting to get grey there too. -siiighs-
In the end, I now use natural sugars like honey, sugar in the raw, maple syrup, etc. I just use less. I notice that after a while, your taste buds are basically reprogrammed. Lots of things just taste really sweet or really salty to me now since I've started limiting.0 -
Everything has sugar in it. Much of it you cannot control. Control what you can. I use splenda in everything I would normally put sugar. Frankly, and to my suprise, I cannot tell between the two. This helps a lot. For instance, now, instead of a cup of coffee (two cream two sugar) being 160 calories, it is around 30.
MFP is a program that tracks calories. Sugar has a lot of calories. Eliminate what you can control is my advice.
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When I was in nursing school 3 years ago I had to do a research project on artificial sweeteners. Some of the things I read in peer reviewed scientific/medical journals was scary. I stopped eating & drinking stuff that had artificial sweeteners in them. Think I will try & find that paper or some of the research again.0
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A good start would be to research why beer (and other alcohols) make you fat, how your body digests fat, and how your body handles toxins. You will notice a pattern. Your liver is hugely responsible for both the breaking down of fats and also the handling of toxins. When you consume something that your body perceives as toxic, your liver will (wisely) try to process that toxin before getting to the rest of it's business (like creating bile acids to break down fat other nutrients). Because of this inefficiency, you can end up storing fat from the good foods you eat while your body is fighting toxins. To me, it is as simple as this: In general, if a product is not found in nature, your body will have a harder time assimilating it which decreases your efficiency to meet your goal. This can be anything from artificial sweeteners and sugar alcohols to synthetic vitamins. On the other hand, don't make yourself crazy about all of this stuff because it could case you to give up before you reach your goal. Good luck!0
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Neanderthin, or anyone who knows: Doesn't fructose absorb differently than refined sugar? My understanding is that the nature of fructose combined with the fiber of the fruit you are eating slows it's absorption and lowers its GI rating.
Before you bash me about Glycemic Index again I will share that yes, it is important to me to find low GI foods. Many on these boards are diabetic, pre-diabetic or cancer survivors and they should be taking GI into consideration when making choices..0 -
Mella, what "gray areas" are you hearing about stevia? I use it and would be very interested in knowing!0
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As every overweight person is told Sugar... its bad for you... I was told too... though I do not have a sweet tooth but some days you feel like having somethings sweet. So i was considering substituting sugar but then i thought WHY? any substitute is chemical when you talk about eating organic why would you want to eat chemicals... plus when i started mfp this time i know 1tsp is not so many calories... you can totally stop having sugar or just reduce the quantity..
sugar substitutes are basically poison for your body and they also confuse your brain into thinking its getting calories when its not so it makes you crave more calories, therefore you eat more than you should.
regular sugar is also a processed which is bad for your weight and body.
the BEST sugars are the natural ones such as raw honey, agave, stevia and 100% pure maple syrup. those foods your body knows how to break up and metabolize and its so much better for your body. Of course it is still considered sugar so if your wanting to lose weight than just make sure that you use it in moderation and dont get too crazy.0 -
I prefer artificial sweeteners because the calories are fewer. And for me, eating sugar makes me crave more sugar, so I'm trying to avoid it as much as possible for the time being.0
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Sugar is sugar. There are three sugar molecules, whether natural or man-made: fructose, glucose, and sucrose. It doesn't matter if it's man-made or natural, fructose is fructose, glucose is glucose, and sucrose is sucrose. The difference is you that you end up getting a lot more volume of sugar from man-made sugar products (sodas, etc.) than you do with fruits.
Doesn't really matter though. Unless you have an intolerance to sugar or some medical condition like diabetes, there's no reason to go crazy on sugar limitation. Like anything, eat it at a reasonable level.0 -
So I just started tracking sugar.
I made a smoothie for breakfast (1/2 banana, 1/4 cup Coconut Dream Coconut milk, 1/2 cup 2% Fage Greek Yogurt, 1/4 cup milk, 1 tblsp Better Than Peanut Butter, 1 tblsp peanut butter, 1 tblsp cocoa, 1 tsp NuNaturals Stevia)... and the tracker says I have used ALL of my sugar for the day.
How in the HECK would anyone keep within that goal. I know that peanut butter has sugar in it, and banana has natural sugar... but HOLY MOLEY, does anyone stay within what is allowed?
P.S. I am a stevia fan.
Unless you are diabetic, there really is no need to track sugar.0 -
News report this morning (5/16) links refined sugar to memory loss and cognition problems. Consuming Omega 3s mitigates the effect somewhat.0
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As every overweight person is told Sugar... its bad for you... I was told too... though I do not have a sweet tooth but some days you feel like having somethings sweet. So i was considering substituting sugar but then i thought WHY? any substitute is chemical when you talk about eating organic why would you want to eat chemicals... plus when i started mfp this time i know 1tsp is not so many calories... you can totally stop having sugar or just reduce the quantity..
Sugar isn't "bad for you," it's bad in the quantities that people in America usually consume. It's bad for people who have conditions like diabetes.
If I want to sweeten something, I generally use a little sugar (no more than two teaspoons), but I prefer to eat things without sweetening them, to the extent I can. My problem with certain artificial sweeteners isn't that they're artificial, it's that our experience with them is limited. We don't know the health hazards and government health authorities have often been too lax, or there simply were effects that were not predicted. I do occasionally drink diet drinks, but a dietitian told me to limit my consumption of Diet Coke.
I think I tried Stevia once and didn't like it because it had an aftertaste. Maybe I should try it again. But I prefer to train my tastebuds not to want too much sugar. I definitely have a sweet tooth.
I, too, find that the sugar limit is set very low on MFP.0 -
Sugar is sugar. There are three sugar molecules, whether natural or man-made: fructose, glucose, and sucrose.
I don't think that's accurate. For example, I believe I read that honey is half sucrose, half fructose. The body processes them differently.0 -
I like the taste of sugar over artificial sugar, so I just use that. It has nothing to do with being fearful of chemicals or anything like that. For me, it's all about taste. I just make sure that it fits in my macros.0
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