Will you change your sugar consumption after watching the 60

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  • athensguy
    athensguy Posts: 550
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    http://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
    Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology, explores the damage caused by sugary foods. He argues that fructose (too much) and fiber (not enough) appear to be cornerstones of the obesity epidemic through their effects on insulin. Series: UCSF Mini Medical School for the Public [7/2009] [Health and Medicine] [Show ID: 16717]

    This is the actual lecture from Dr. Lustig that was posted online back in 2009 with the Mini Medical School for the Public. Watching this lecture was probably the best 1.5 hours of time I've ever spent on the internet. If you're actually interested in the science behind the claim Sanjay Gupta is exploring, it's all right here in this lecture.
    http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
    And here's some science that pretty much refutes Lustig's claims.

    I saw a commentary there. Didn't really see any kind of science, though.
  • jenj1313
    jenj1313 Posts: 898 Member
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    I doubt I will. I try to avoid processed sugars for the most part, but not completely. I'm not worried about sugars from fruits and veggies.
  • mnichol
    mnichol Posts: 642
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    Watched it last night, dont eat a ton of sugar now, but will strive to eliminate more. One could "debate" the issue all day and all night, but given the big picture, eliminating sugar seems to make sense.
  • pamperedhen
    pamperedhen Posts: 446 Member
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    BUT.....BUT.... My Starbuck's Mocha Frappuccino!!! We have a moment every morning as I log onto MFP and talk to my friends!:cry: We have had this affair for 13 mauvalousssss years! It is too good to let go...sorry:bigsmile:
  • Frumpy2Fit
    Frumpy2Fit Posts: 137 Member
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  • Marig0ld
    Marig0ld Posts: 671 Member
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    Oh FFS, are we going to be allowed to eat ANYTHING anymore? I half-watched it this morning while it was on CBS news but I always take this stuff with a grain of salt. Oh crap, I forgot we can't have salt anymore either...
  • XXXMinnieXXX
    XXXMinnieXXX Posts: 3,459 Member
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    I don't eat much processed sugar at all, but I don't worry about sugar from fruit and vegetables. I keep my carbs to 150 a day now, so guess I'm doing ok! X
  • infamousmk
    infamousmk Posts: 6,033 Member
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    I ♥ sugar.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    Oh FFS, are we going to be allowed to eat ANYTHING anymore? I half-watched it this morning while it was on CBS news but I always take this stuff with a grain of salt. Oh crap, I forgot we can't have salt anymore either...

    If you eat salt, sugar or meat, you will die.

    If you eat dairy or carbs or grains, you will die.

    If you don't eat any of those things, you will die.

    Well, shoot. I think the conclusion is, we're going to die! lol
  • joe7880
    joe7880 Posts: 92 Member
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    I watched the segment and the Dr. who did the study saw increases in LDL after replacing the subjects' diet with 25% sugar for 2 weeks. I'm sure most people don't eat that much sugar or do they?
  • lorenzoinlr
    lorenzoinlr Posts: 338 Member
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    I realize there are studies du jour and alarmists out for attention but I should probably chime in here. I have medical researchers, oncologists and heart specialists in my family. I'm not and so sit idly by during conversations about medical research. The two studies aren't the only ones, a lot more will start reaching publication and they are corroborative.

    Sugar and corn syrup aren't the only things, the issues concern those plus simple carbs such as white rice and processed flour. In short, I'll just say when these family members became aware of some of the not yet published findings of other researchers, they put down the sugar. And these aren't health mavens when it comes to their personal lifestyle. We're talking burgers, fries, candy and even smoking.

    So when I saw their level of alarm around October, I joined them and cut out almost all processed foods and sugar. I just checked my diary and found actually I've done great, except for Coffee Mate and dried plums (prunes). The plums are in a grey area, as fruit which come with fiber and so digest more slowly.

    Anyways, the evidence on this is about to explode with research so get ready, particularly wrt heart disease.

    FWIW, I will say we all feel so much better without the sugar we no longer feel deprived.
  • myak623
    myak623 Posts: 616 Member
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    I didn't see the segment, but I wouldn't be eliminating sugar anyway.

    If one person can find a study against sugar, another will find a study for sugar and the dance continues. Common sense will tell you that moderation is the key for everything. If you feel like sugar is evil and will kill you dead, then eliminate it. There really isn't much harm there. If you like sugar or feel that you will still be breathing after a delicious doughnut, then eat it. Again, not much harm there either if you make that doughnut fit into your daily calorie goals and macros.

    *heads to the doughnut box*
  • susanswan
    susanswan Posts: 1,194 Member
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    Not interested in the debate, either and didn't watch the show, BUT.....I kicked off my weight loss 5 years ago by getting rid of sugar in all of it's forms, and white flour (breaks down to sugar almost instantly) and refined grains. I never realized that those three things alone were fueling my cravings! It took me about 2 weeks or less to detox from them and for the first time in my life at age 50 I could pass up candy, cookies, and other junk food. Yes, of course I still wanted it, but it was no longer an uncontrollable urge. 5 years later I am still on the wagon. I might have it in small amounts now and then and am not a fanatic about if it is in my ketchup or other condiments that I use sparingly, but I can tell you most assuredly that when I do have those things I can immediately tell that I have eaten them and I feel the urge to want MORE! SO I tread those waters carefully and when I do indulge I must be mentally prepared to be extra cautious with avoiding those things for the next few days or I will find myself on the slippery slope of giving into my addiction.

    Sugar is bad news. I steer clear 99.5% of the time!
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    http://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
    Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology, explores the damage caused by sugary foods. He argues that fructose (too much) and fiber (not enough) appear to be cornerstones of the obesity epidemic through their effects on insulin. Series: UCSF Mini Medical School for the Public [7/2009] [Health and Medicine] [Show ID: 16717]

    This is the actual lecture from Dr. Lustig that was posted online back in 2009 with the Mini Medical School for the Public. Watching this lecture was probably the best 1.5 hours of time I've ever spent on the internet. If you're actually interested in the science behind the claim Sanjay Gupta is exploring, it's all right here in this lecture.
    http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
    And here's some science that pretty much refutes Lustig's claims.

    I saw a commentary there. Didn't really see any kind of science, though.
    So you completely missed the links and reference section where he cited the studies he was referring to?
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    I realize there are studies du jour and alarmists out for attention but I should probably chime in here. I have medical researchers, oncologists and heart specialists in my family. I'm not and so sit idly by during conversations about medical research. The two studies aren't the only ones, a lot more will start reaching publication and they are corroborative.

    Sugar and corn syrup aren't the only things, the issues concern those plus simple carbs such as white rice and processed flour. In short, I'll just say when these family members became aware of some of the not yet published findings of other researchers, they put down the sugar. And these aren't health mavens when it comes to their personal lifestyle. We're talking burgers, fries, candy and even smoking.

    So when I saw their level of alarm around October, I joined them and cut out almost all processed foods and sugar. I just checked my diary and found actually I've done great, except for Coffee Mate and dried plums (prunes). The plums are in a grey area, as fruit which come with fiber and so digest more slowly.

    Anyways, the evidence on this is about to explode with research so get ready, particularly wrt heart disease.

    FWIW, I will say we all feel so much better without the sugar we no longer feel deprived.
    Are these studies all along the line of all the research that was done that proved all these claims now being blamed on sugar were originally blamed on fat? Also, processed flour and white bread are both starches, they are complex carbs, not simple carbs. An apple is a simple carb, as it's all monosaccharides and disaccharides.
  • secretlobster
    secretlobster Posts: 3,566 Member
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    I can't say I never eat chocolate (or gelato, occasionally)... But I have been eating very little (added) sugar for years now, and I'm the same way. I'm super sensitive to sugar, to the degree that I will not eat salsa that contains sugar because it is just too sweet for me to stomach. We really do get used to the taste of sugar! I haven't seen the 60 minutes segment but consuming a lot of refined sugar can't possibly be a great idea.
  • UponThisRock
    UponThisRock Posts: 4,522 Member
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    I haven't seen the 60 minutes segment but consuming a lot of refined sugar can't possibly be a great idea.

    "a lot" = eating so much that you either 1) eat too many calories, or 2) compromise macro or micro nutrition. Take care of the big picture, and the details tend to work themselves out.
  • hiker282
    hiker282 Posts: 983 Member
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    I try to limit the artificial and processed sugars; but when it comes to the sugars naturally in fruits and veggies I don't worry about those.
  • kwest_4_fitness
    kwest_4_fitness Posts: 819 Member
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    I'll continue to eat sugar, but nothing like the amounts that I used to. Nothing to do with 60 Minutes, either. I just make better decisions about what I eat based on a common sense approach to dieting.
  • athensguy
    athensguy Posts: 550
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    http://youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM
    Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology, explores the damage caused by sugary foods. He argues that fructose (too much) and fiber (not enough) appear to be cornerstones of the obesity epidemic through their effects on insulin. Series: UCSF Mini Medical School for the Public [7/2009] [Health and Medicine] [Show ID: 16717]

    This is the actual lecture from Dr. Lustig that was posted online back in 2009 with the Mini Medical School for the Public. Watching this lecture was probably the best 1.5 hours of time I've ever spent on the internet. If you're actually interested in the science behind the claim Sanjay Gupta is exploring, it's all right here in this lecture.
    http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
    And here's some science that pretty much refutes Lustig's claims.

    I saw a commentary there. Didn't really see any kind of science, though.
    So you completely missed the links and reference section where he cited the studies he was referring to?

    I thought you meant he did science. Regardless, I did look at a couple of the studies and they don't seem to be relevant to the fructose problem. Sucrose is half fructose, too, so why would there be that much difference between HFCS 55% and it? Comparing Sucrose to HFCS in this context is not too useful, which is what he seems to be doing.