Fat people need not apply.. its coming

bikermike5094
bikermike5094 Posts: 1,752 Member
edited December 2024 in Chit-Chat
There have been undercurrents of weight discrimination in the workplace for years, but a Texas hospital decided to go anti-fat full throttle.

A Texas newspaper recently reported about a fat-averse Texas hospital — Citizens Medical Center in Victoria, Texas — and its unheard-of policy of refusing to hire anyone with a body mass index of more than 35.

The policy, according to The Texas Tribune, states:

… an employee’s physique “should fit with a representational image or specific mental projection of the job of a healthcare professional,” including an appearance “free from distraction” for hospital patients.

“The majority of our patients are over 65, and they have expectations that cannot be ignored in terms of personal appearance,” hospital chief executive David Brown said in an interview. “We have the ability as an employer to characterize our process and to have a policy that says what’s best for our business and for our patients.”

Body mass index is calculated based on height and weight, with a measure over 30 qualifying as obese. A 5-foot-10 man who weighs 245 pounds would have a BMI of over 35, the hospital's cutoff. A 5-foot-2 woman would be over the cutoff at 195 pounds.

The hospital’s policy may cause outrage, but it’s an extreme example of an obesity bias that has been percolating in the nation’s workforces, starting with seemingly benign measures such as encouraging workers to walk at lunch.

Companies are beefing up their efforts to make you healthier, and they’re taking out the big guns. You’re costing employers too much money for medical coverage, and increasingly firms are imposing penalties on workers who don’t get with the healthy program.

According to a report released this week by consulting firm Mercer:

“87% of large employers say they will add or strengthen programs or policies to encourage more health-conscious behavior.”

While this hospital is talking about the image heavier workers send to customers, what drives so much of these decisions is the cost fatter employees represent. Healthier workers cost less when it comes to insurance, sick time, productivity, etc., according to many business experts.

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  • FlyByJuly
    FlyByJuly Posts: 564 Member
    Well, I find the term "free from distraction" could apply to all sorts of body sizes and shapes!!!
  • PapaverSomniferum
    PapaverSomniferum Posts: 2,670 Member
    While I generally get worked up and livid over fat discrimination,

    this one I can kind of agree with. For some reason, there is a large proportion of people in the medical field who are very overweight. It sends a message almost as bad as a doctor who smokes cigarettes. It's an uncomfortable hypocracy that so many people who dedicate their lives to health maintain the appearance of an unhealthy lifestyle.

    I work in the quasi-medical field of caregiving. Many people in this business are morbidly obese. It's difficult for them to guide our clients towards healthy choices. Why should our clients listen to our advice when we clearly do not heed it ourselves?
  • wisebadger53
    wisebadger53 Posts: 382 Member
    As a SFG (Shrinking Fat Guy) I believe that it is every employer's right (some may say duty) to encourage their associates to lead a healthy lifestyle, but find it offensive that an organization would overtly state this as a condition of employment. Although, in many places it is an unspoken hiring policy...how many 275 lb. Hooters girls do you know?
  • Twilightsunflower
    Twilightsunflower Posts: 324 Member
    i know being over weight means you look less healthy but that is not always the case. personally i have a better immune system then my friends and family who are thin and healthy looking. encouraging a person to take care of themselves is wonderful. telling someone they are to fat to work is crap. if they can and will do the job right and qulify then they should be employed. its a slippery slope allowing a place to discrimnate against a "type" of a person. it wasnt to long ago people werent allowed to work jobs based on color or gender. im not soap boxing here just wanted to point out that judging a person based strictly on apperiance can be dangerouse.
  • darrell62
    darrell62 Posts: 40
    ,” including an appearance “free from distraction” for hospital patients.

    When I read the above I intrepret that as no visible tattoos or piecings
  • zoeluiisa
    zoeluiisa Posts: 392
    You could only do that in the UK if you could prove that the weight would prevent them carrying out the job. Discrimination otherwise, which is illegal. I guess it's probably the same in the US?
  • iam_thatdude
    iam_thatdude Posts: 1,266 Member
    If ur a fat girl, try to get hired at Hooters. If ur a fat guy, try to get hired as a fitness instructer or lifeguard? THat's just the way it is. As a formerly fat guy moving to a ripped dude (hopefull) I have no problem with this.
  • plarcade
    plarcade Posts: 125 Member
    In the UK there are people claiming benefits on the grounds that they are too fat to work. If someone wants a job, no matter what their size, and they're qualified/physically able to do it... I say GIVE them the job.
  • ki4yxo
    ki4yxo Posts: 709 Member
    Good luck finding somebody to do their
    IT work. :tongue:

    I keed, I keed!
  • yesiamaduck
    yesiamaduck Posts: 531 Member
    If I'm ill I want a hug

    A fat cuddle is really comforting/comfortable... not sure which word I needed here.
  • ItsCasey
    ItsCasey Posts: 4,021 Member
    You could only do that in the UK if you could prove that the weight would prevent them carrying out the job. Discrimination otherwise, which is illegal. I guess it's probably the same in the US?

    Nope. Fat people are not a protected class in the US, nor should they be.

    The only thing I have a problem with is using BMI as a measurement of health. It's even more absurd that a medical facility is doing it.
  • fbmandy55
    fbmandy55 Posts: 5,263 Member
    You could only do that in the UK if you could prove that the weight would prevent them carrying out the job. Discrimination otherwise, which is illegal. I guess it's probably the same in the US?

    Depends on the state. Indiana, is a no fault state. I can be fired at anytime for any reason without cause. I can also be denied work for any reason.
  • cabaray
    cabaray Posts: 971 Member
    I wonder if this hospital refuses to hire smokers as well? My daughter is asthmatic and just the smell of smoke on someone can send her into an attack. I think this will be taken to court and overturned. There was a case involving Hooters. Basically, Hooters won because their business thrives on the look of it's waitresses. A hospital doesn't thrive on the looks of it's employees. I can tell you with complete certainty that if someone is wheeled into that hospital having a heartattack, they aren't going to asked to be transferred to a hospital with staff that is more aesthetically appealing.

    http://ambrosecriminallawblog.com/2010/08/16/firing-the-fat-chick-the-hooters-waitress-case-study/
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    As a SFG (Shrinking Fat Guy) I believe that it is every employer's right (some may say duty) to encourage their associates to lead a healthy lifestyle, but find it offensive that an organization would overtly state this as a condition of employment. Although, in many places it is an unspoken hiring policy...how many 275 lb. Hooters girls do you know?

    Im not familiar with the laws there but, last I knew its actually against the law... this is a form of discrimination. I have a true medical condition that is causing my weight issues. I would love to see how that would go down in an interview to be honest.

    The one thing that legally can be done is to encourage the adoption of healthy changes with weight loss, weight management and such.

    Our medical insurance plan offers plenty of incentives to reduce our out-of-pocket expenses for those who are actively involved in any weight-related service, those who dont have weight issues but want to continue their healthy choices through the use of a gym, smoking cessation programs, etc.

    There are companies whose insurance plan who will encourage smoking cessation programs at the non-smoker's insurance premium rate with proof that they are active in trying to quit smoking, etc... otherwise they pay a higher premium.

    This whole BMI requirement as a condition of employment is just utterly rediculous and screams ACLU intervention.
  • zoeluiisa
    zoeluiisa Posts: 392
    You could only do that in the UK if you could prove that the weight would prevent them carrying out the job. Discrimination otherwise, which is illegal. I guess it's probably the same in the US?

    Depends on the state. Indiana, is a no fault state. I can be fired at anytime for any reason without cause. I can also be denied work for any reason.

    Seriously? Thats pretty shocking.
  • TheRoadDog
    TheRoadDog Posts: 11,788 Member
    I don't really care. Just counters the movement to get fat people considered a protected segment of society. Like handicapped or whatever.
  • SinIsIn
    SinIsIn Posts: 1,865 Member
    Good luck finding somebody to do their
    IT work. :tongue:

    I keed, I keed!

    LMAO!!!
  • mslindsay
    mslindsay Posts: 93 Member
    What about the workers that have an unhealthy low BMI?
  • FaugHorn
    FaugHorn Posts: 1,060 Member
    Weight isn't a protected class, especially in no-fault states you can be fired/not hired for any reason that doesn't include being in a protected class. Doesn't matter if it's discrimination, employers discriminate all the TIME for a whole host of reasons, doesn't make it illegal.
  • skywa
    skywa Posts: 901 Member
    Interesting. I can some what see the logic behind this. Hopefully it will help encourage everyone to get healthier.

    I think they should measuring based on BF% instead of BMI though. I know some ripped ppl that would probably have a bmi around 35 that are most definitely NOT over weight or unhealthy in any way.

    I guess its accurate enough for most individuals though.
  • andeey
    andeey Posts: 709 Member
    Good luck finding somebody to do their
    IT work. :tongue:

    I keed, I keed!

    So funny!!! :laugh:
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