In the red !!

Not had a good few days so glad Easter is over I want to start a fresh tomorrow , so started planing my day , I have planed dinner chicken brown rice and veg and 2 snacks an apple before I go to the gym and a pear in the afternoon , I used to eat a lot more fruit as I did ww about a year ago any way already in the red for protein and sugar is this bad !

I don't count sugar from fruit. I don't limit myself on fruit or veggies based on sugar.
I'm always high on protein.

To much protein turns into fat

Thats a new one on me....

That must be why body builders are so fat and non muscly... *sarcasm*

I thought this was another TOM thread.

Grody!

:laugh:

I posted this in a previous thread but thought I'd repeat it. I believe the sugar limit presented by MFP has resulted from the limit suggested by the USDA of 5-15% Solid Fats and Added Sugars (SoFaS) this would explain why the limit is 8% of the calories with saturated fats being limited to 10%. However the sugar value on labels doesn't distinguish added sugar from intrinsic or milk sugars that are meant to be better.

In the UK the Food and Drink Federation who devise the Guideline Daily Amounts (GDA) recommend a breakdown of 49% total carbohydrates of which 19% is total sugars with only 10% coming from Non-Milk Extrinsic Sugars (NMES) (Added sugars in the US terminology). So for a normal female on 2000 calories a day this equates to 90g of total sugars of which only 50g can come from NMES (men get 120g total sugar and 65g NMES).

This limit encourages you to eat more fresh fruit, for a normal adult this would equates to the 5 fruits and vegetables we are always being encouraged to eat. These guidelines are so much more liberating than the 8% total sugar limit MFP imposes.

Of course people with diabetes have different rules to follow.

Check out http://www.fdf.org.uk/publicgeneral/gdas_science_jul09.pdf for the full report.

Has anyone seen that new Verizon commercial where the guys hanging out @ the basketball court are giving each other really horrible advice? Like use household bleach to make your teeth whiter, lift with your back...yeah that's kinda what MFP forums are like.

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To much protein turns into fat

no I am not kidding here it is and I don't understand what the attitude is for I anwsered somebodys question on what I read :mad:


Seems like everyone at the gym is doing it: filling up on protein to bulk up those biceps. But it's a misconception. Eating extra protein actually doesn't do much toward boosting your muscle mass and strength.

In fact, medical research shows that consuming too much protein -- more than 30% of your total daily caloric intake -- could actually harm your body, says protein expert Gail Butterfield, PhD, RD, director of Nutrition Studies at the Palo Alto Veterans' Administration Medical Center and nutrition lecturer at Stanford University.

She says that a diet containing excess protein can have the following adverse effects:

Adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your other bodily systems under stress.
Eating more protein and increasing total caloric intake while maintaining the same exercise level will build an equal amount of additional fat and muscle mass, according to a study published in 1992 in the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society.
Too Much Protein
So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbohydrates for a protein-dominant diet, Butterfield says. Drastically cutting carbohydrates from your diet may force your body to fight back.

She says that's because a diet in which protein makes up more than 30% of your caloric intake causes a buildup of toxic ketones. So-called ketogenic diets can thrust your kidneys into overdrive in order to flush these ketones from your body. As your kidneys rid your body of these toxic ketones, you can lose a significant amount of water, which puts you at risk of dehydration, particularly if you exercise heavily.

That water loss often shows up on the scale as weight loss. But along with losing water, you lose muscle mass and bone calcium. The dehydration also strains your kidneys and puts stress on your heart.

And dehydration from a ketogenic diet can make you feel weak and dizzy, give you bad breath, or lead to other problems.

How Much Protein Do I Need?
The amount of protein you require depends on your weight and your daily caloric intake. Most Americans consume more than enough protein in their daily diets. A few specific groups of people are at risk for being protein-deficient, including elderly women and people with illnesses or eating disorders. A protein deficiency is defined as eating 50% to 75% of the recommended amount of daily protein, Butterfield explains.

Ideally, you should consume 0.36 grams of protein for every pound of body weight, according to recommended daily allowances (RDA) set by the Food and Nutrition Board. So if you weigh 170 pounds, you need about 61 grams of protein each day.

Protein should also make up approximately 15% of your total daily caloric intake, also according to the RDA. In a diet of 1,800 calories a day, for example, about 270 of those calories should come from protein.

It's Essential
Although limiting protein intake is important, you should also realize that protein is essential to our bodies' normal functions. It assists in synthesizing enzymes and hormones, maintaining fluid balance, and regulating such vital functions as building antibodies against infection, blood clotting, and scar formation.

Protein is also a building block for our muscles, bones, cartilage, skin, hair, and blood. Protein-rich foods include meat, cheese, milk, fish, and eggs. For vegetarians, protein can be found in soy products such as tofu as well as in combinations of foods, such as rice or corn with beans.

Whether you are an avid strength trainer, a marathon runner, or just an average exerciser, a balanced diet that is rich in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean meats, fish, and complex carbohydrates is what nutritionists recommend.

no I am not kidding here it is and I don't understand what the attitude is for I anwsered somebodys question on what I read :mad:


Seems like everyone at the gym is doing it: filling up on protein to bulk up those biceps. But it's a misconception. Eating extra protein actually doesn't do much toward boosting your muscle mass and strength.

In fact, medical research shows that consuming too much protein -- more than 30% of your total daily caloric intake -- could actually harm your body, says protein expert Gail Butterfield, PhD, RD, director of Nutrition Studies at the Palo Alto Veterans' Administration Medical Center and nutrition lecturer at Stanford University.

She says that a diet containing excess protein can have the following adverse effects:

Adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your other bodily systems under stress.
Eating more protein and increasing total caloric intake while maintaining the same exercise level will build an equal amount of additional fat and muscle mass, according to a study published in 1992 in the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society.
Too Much Protein
So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbohydrates for a protein-dominant diet, Butterfield says. Drastically cutting carbohydrates from your diet may force your body to fight back.

She says that's because a diet in which protein makes up more than 30% of your caloric intake causes a buildup of toxic ketones. So-called ketogenic diets can thrust your kidneys into overdrive in order to flush these ketones from your body. As your kidneys rid your body of these toxic ketones, you can lose a significant amount of water, which puts you at risk of dehydration, particularly if you exercise heavily.

That water loss often shows up on the scale as weight loss. But along with losing water, you lose muscle mass and bone calcium. The dehydration also strains your kidneys and puts stress on your heart.

And dehydration from a ketogenic diet can make you feel weak and dizzy, give you bad breath, or lead to other problems.

How Much Protein Do I Need?
The amount of protein you require depends on your weight and your daily caloric intake. Most Americans consume more than enough protein in their daily diets. A few specific groups of people are at risk for being protein-deficient, including elderly women and people with illnesses or eating disorders. A protein deficiency is defined as eating 50% to 75% of the recommended amount of daily protein, Butterfield explains.

Ideally, you should consume 0.36 grams of protein for every pound of body weight, according to recommended daily allowances (RDA) set by the Food and Nutrition Board. So if you weigh 170 pounds, you need about 61 grams of protein each day.

Protein should also make up approximately 15% of your total daily caloric intake, also according to the RDA. In a diet of 1,800 calories a day, for example, about 270 of those calories should come from protein.

It's Essential
Although limiting protein intake is important, you should also realize that protein is essential to our bodies' normal functions. It assists in synthesizing enzymes and hormones, maintaining fluid balance, and regulating such vital functions as building antibodies against infection, blood clotting, and scar formation.

Protein is also a building block for our muscles, bones, cartilage, skin, hair, and blood. Protein-rich foods include meat, cheese, milk, fish, and eggs. For vegetarians, protein can be found in soy products such as tofu as well as in combinations of foods, such as rice or corn with beans.

Whether you are an avid strength trainer, a marathon runner, or just an average exerciser, a balanced diet that is rich in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean meats, fish, and complex carbohydrates is what nutritionists recommend.

How old is this? The fact that it talks about "food combining" for vegetarians to get their protein, which is completely unnecessary (and anyway, refers to the amino acids that make a complete protein), makes me discount everything else.

Just google it there is mulitple articles this is just one of the many that I picked

And you will also find plenty that say 1g of protein per lean body mass is good - you can find back-up articles for pretty much any opinion on the internet.

To much protein turns into fat
I am not sure about the sugar seeing it is from fruit

Too much protein will not turn into fat. No macro (Carb/fat/protein) will convert to body fat, unless you eat more then maintenance calories. The protein intake on MFP is quite low, I would suggest changing your goal, or using that as a minimum. As for sugar, the amount MFP shows is for added sugar, but then does not distinguish between the 2. If you are not diabetic or pre-diabetic I would suggest tracking something else as you already track carbs and sugar is a carb.

You know what you ppl just want to talk *kitten*. I looked up what to much protein does (seeing I was having the same issue and was also told by a nutironist that to much protein is not good ) and all that came up was article after article about it not being good. This is why it is better not to comment on anything because there is always someone out there that thinks they know everything and want to put someone down. Also yes the morn you exercise the more protein you are allowed. But to everyone that anwsered her question in a nice way without tring to put me down thank-you. I did not know that ppl getoff talking **** on these posts

You know what you ppl just want to talk *kitten*. I looked up what to much protein does (seeing I was having the same issue and was also told by a nutironist that to much protein is not good ) and all that came up was article after article about it not being good. This is why it is better not to comment on anything because there is always someone out there that thinks they know everything and want to put someone down. Also yes the morn you exercise the more protein you are allowed. But to everyone that anwsered her question in a nice way without tring to put me down thank-you. I did not know that ppl getoff talking **** on these posts

So lets be logical about this

You post a point that some guy says on the internet (who may or may not be trying to pedal something for $$$) and you come up against a few dozen people who have success stories probably lost 1000lbs between them who tell you no way.

Then you get upset cos Google says :laugh:

To much protein turns into fat
I am not sure about the sugar seeing it is from fruit

....no. If you're going to post something please have the facts.

I can use google too - i have to say the letters out loud as I type it into the browser tho doubleu... doubleu... doubleu... dot g ohhh ohhh g....

http://www.burnthefat.com/high_protein_diet.html

no I am not kidding here it is and I don't understand what the attitude is for I anwsered somebodys question on what I read :mad:


Seems like everyone at the gym is doing it: filling up on protein to bulk up those biceps. But it's a misconception. Eating extra protein actually doesn't do much toward boosting your muscle mass and strength.

In fact, medical research shows that consuming too much protein -- more than 30% of your total daily caloric intake -- could actually harm your body, says protein expert Gail Butterfield, PhD, RD, director of Nutrition Studies at the Palo Alto Veterans' Administration Medical Center and nutrition lecturer at Stanford University.

She says that a diet containing excess protein can have the following adverse effects:

Adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your other bodily systems under stress.
Eating more protein and increasing total caloric intake while maintaining the same exercise level will build an equal amount of additional fat and muscle mass, according to a study published in 1992 in the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society.
Too Much Protein
So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbohydrates for a protein-dominant diet, Butterfield says. Drastically cutting carbohydrates from your diet may force your body to fight back.

She says that's because a diet in which protein makes up more than 30% of your caloric intake causes a buildup of toxic ketones. So-called ketogenic diets can thrust your kidneys into overdrive in order to flush these ketones from your body. As your kidneys rid your body of these toxic ketones, you can lose a significant amount of water, which puts you at risk of dehydration, particularly if you exercise heavily.

That water loss often shows up on the scale as weight loss. But along with losing water, you lose muscle mass and bone calcium. The dehydration also strains your kidneys and puts stress on your heart.

And dehydration from a ketogenic diet can make you feel weak and dizzy, give you bad breath, or lead to other problems.

How Much Protein Do I Need?
The amount of protein you require depends on your weight and your daily caloric intake. Most Americans consume more than enough protein in their daily diets. A few specific groups of people are at risk for being protein-deficient, including elderly women and people with illnesses or eating disorders. A protein deficiency is defined as eating 50% to 75% of the recommended amount of daily protein, Butterfield explains.

Ideally, you should consume 0.36 grams of protein for every pound of body weight, according to recommended daily allowances (RDA) set by the Food and Nutrition Board. So if you weigh 170 pounds, you need about 61 grams of protein each day.

Protein should also make up approximately 15% of your total daily caloric intake, also according to the RDA. In a diet of 1,800 calories a day, for example, about 270 of those calories should come from protein.

It's Essential
Although limiting protein intake is important, you should also realize that protein is essential to our bodies' normal functions. It assists in synthesizing enzymes and hormones, maintaining fluid balance, and regulating such vital functions as building antibodies against infection, blood clotting, and scar formation.

Protein is also a building block for our muscles, bones, cartilage, skin, hair, and blood. Protein-rich foods include meat, cheese, milk, fish, and eggs. For vegetarians, protein can be found in soy products such as tofu as well as in combinations of foods, such as rice or corn with beans.

Whether you are an avid strength trainer, a marathon runner, or just an average exerciser, a balanced diet that is rich in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean meats, fish, and complex carbohydrates is what nutritionists recommend.

When using articles please ALWAYS include the reference (magazine, journal, newspaper, ect), date it was published, plus the author...if you want to be taken seriously~
This sounds like something that was a filler for Good Housekeeping, not not American Journal of Medicine!