Someone explain this to me.

Kris1997
Kris1997 Posts: 241
edited December 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
I was tinkering with the setting on here, and now I am really confused...If i set my goals with no workouts and 1 pound a week OR with 7 days x 30 mins a day, i get same amount of calories....someone please explain this to me. LOL
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  • pullipgirl
    pullipgirl Posts: 767 Member
    You are supposed to eat back your exercise calories
  • Kris1997
    Kris1997 Posts: 241
    What is the point in working out to just eat back what you worked off????
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
    I was tinkering with the setting on here, and now I am really confused...If i set my goals with no workouts and 1 pound a week OR with 7 days x 30 mins a day, i get same amount of calories....someone please explain this to me. LOL

    I'm not sure if this is a serious Q judging by the LOL at the end, but will answer anyway just in case.

    MFP ignore your exercise until you actually do it.

    It sets it's goal without any exercise burn, so you get a 500/750/1000 defict from your non-exercise daily calorie requirements based on your day job. Then when you burn extra calories you get to eat those back so that you keep the same deficit.

    i.e Daily activity = 2000 cals.
    you set 1lb per week loss, so deficit is 500 cals
    Calorie allowance = 2000 - 500 = 1500

    if you exercise and burn 500 calories, your daily activity calories are now 2500, so to maintain the 500 defict you selected, you now eat 2000 calories.

    Have a read of the stickied threads above for a better explanation.
  • JesterMFP
    JesterMFP Posts: 3,596 Member
    What is the point in working out to just eat back what you worked off????

    The way MFP works it that it sets you a calorie deficit without taking any planned exercise into account. That way, it works even if you don't end up doing any exercise. Then, when you do exercise, the calorie deficit gets bigger, but you might not be getting enough calories with that extra-big deficit, so you eat back the calories to get back to the original deficit. This is different from how other diet plans work, so it is confusing at first.

    You could easily lose weight at a sensible rate just by following MFP and doing no exercise. The "point" of working out is to get fitter and healthier all round, and it also allows you to eat more while maintaining a reasonable deficit. If you don't want to do it that way, you can set your calorie goal higher, and not log your exercise with MFP.
  • Kris1997
    Kris1997 Posts: 241
    @ Jester THANK YOU, for answering my question.
  • gin_gin
    gin_gin Posts: 184
    GREAT explanation!!
    it does seem "silly" when you don't understand the concept of it to eat back what you're working
    off sounds like double the work but you explained it well :)
  • TexanThom
    TexanThom Posts: 778
    Here we go again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • badapdos
    badapdos Posts: 132
    What is the point in working out to just eat back what you worked off????
    Because they give a certain # of calories to lose weight. You can eat those number of calories without exercising, and still lose weight. If you eat below those because of burning your calories, you can go into starvation mode. Not only can you eat more because of exercising, you will still manage to lose weight. When you do reach your goal weight, you can still eat 1600 cals a day rather than 1200 because your metabolism will be so high. I didn't understand it at first either.
  • bluefox9er
    bluefox9er Posts: 2,917 Member
    I was tinkering with the setting on here, and now I am really confused...If i set my goals with no workouts and 1 pound a week OR with 7 days x 30 mins a day, i get same amount of calories....someone please explain this to me. LOL

    I'm not sure if this is a serious Q judging by the LOL at the end, but will answer anyway just in case.

    MFP ignore your exercise until you actually do it.

    It sets it's goal without any exercise burn, so you get a 500/750/1000 defict from your non-exercise daily calorie requirements based on your day job. Then when you burn extra calories you get to eat those back so that you keep the same deficit.

    i.e Daily activity = 2000 cals.
    you set 1lb per week loss, so deficit is 500 cals
    Calorie allowance = 2000 - 500 = 1500

    if you exercise and burn 500 calories, your daily activity calories are now 2500, so to maintain the 500 defict you selected, you now eat 2000 calories.

    Have a read of the stickied threads above for a better explanation.


    The only time when this dosn't hold true in part is if you are 300lbs +..a large deficit won't do you any harm. but the mantra is to eat back your exercise calories. Exactly how many is fiercely debated...I used to be of the mind never to touch my exercise calories with a ten foot stick, I worked my buns off for them, but trust me..your body needs fuel, ESPECIALLY if you exercise rigorously and constantly. for the once a weekers, you could probably get by not eating your exercise calories.
  • Kris1997
    Kris1997 Posts: 241
    I have had some very good answers. Thanks to everyone who answered. Reason I asked, besides the obvious..I HATE exercise and wondered if I never worked out if I would be hurting my dieting efforts. Thanks!
  • sollyn
    sollyn Posts: 179
    What is the point in working out to just eat back what you worked off????

    It means you get to eat cake!
  • Kris1997
    Kris1997 Posts: 241
    So here I have another question....Say I started working out regularly, get down to my goal weight and stop working out. Won't I gain the weight right back unless I always workout??
  • LizKurz
    LizKurz Posts: 340 Member
    No, you'll be eating a smaller number of calories than you would have as a heavier person.
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
    So here I have another question....Say I started working out regularly, get down to my goal weight and stop working out. Won't I gain the weight right back unless I always workout??

    All depends on what you eat surely?

    If you eat more than your daily needs, then yes. But that will happen now, even with working out.

    If you aren't doing extra exercise, then you won't be eating the extra exercise calories, you would eat the maintenence calories for your weight and activities

    Why would you stop exercising when you get to goal?
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    MPF does not take into account planned exercise, only exercise that you actualy do.

    As an example say MFP gives you 1450 calories to lose 1 lb/week, and you plan on exercising 5x/week for an average of 400 cals per workout. well MFP will tell you to eat 1450 on the days you don't workout and 1850 on the days you do whereas a "professional" may tell you to eat 1700 everyday regardless if you workout.

    So for the week MFP will have you eat 12,150 (1450*2+1850*5) whereas doing it the other way will have you eat 11,900 (1700*7) almost the same number of cals for the week (250 dif). The issue in not following MFP is if you don't workout the full 5 days or burn more or less than planned. If that is the case you may lose more or less than your goal, whereas MFP will have you lose your goal amount regardless how much you actually workout.

    What many MFPers do is take the low 1450 and not eat back exercise calories which is wrong, if you are not eating them back then your daily activity level should reflect the higher burn with would be covered in the 1700/day above.

    If you want your caloric goal to include planned exercise, change your activity level to active or very active and don't eat back cals burned.
  • BlueInkDot
    BlueInkDot Posts: 702 Member
    Can we just pick the best explanation for "why you should eat back your exercise calories" and put it into the FAQ? Then we can just link to that every time people ask. :/
  • david_swinstead
    david_swinstead Posts: 271 Member
    So here I have another question....Say I started working out regularly, get down to my goal weight and stop working out. Won't I gain the weight right back unless I always workout??

    Like someone else has said, it depends on what you eat.

    But why would you do that? Keep working out!
  • Kris1997
    Kris1997 Posts: 241
    Why would you stop exercising when you get to goal?
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    Because I HATE exercising.
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    Why would you stop exercising when you get to goal?


    Because I HATE exercising.
    [/quote]

    You can lose weight without exercise, just follow MFP's intake. You may lose weight without it, but you will never be healthy without exercise. I suggest finding something active that you do enjoy, it doesn't have to be a gym workout.
  • SassyCalyGirl
    SassyCalyGirl Posts: 1,932 Member
    What is the point in working out to just eat back what you worked off????

    exactly!
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Exercise has nothing to do with weight loss.

    Weight loss is all about diet.

    Exercise is for fitness and health.

    They are two different things.
  • Kris1997
    Kris1997 Posts: 241
    Exercise has nothing to do with weight loss.

    Weight loss is all about diet.

    Exercise is for fitness and health.

    They are two different things.



    THANK YOU THANK YOU!! This is exactly what i thought.
  • LizKurz
    LizKurz Posts: 340 Member
    Exercise has nothing to do with weight loss.

    Weight loss is all about diet.

    Exercise is for fitness and health.

    They are two different things.



    THANK YOU THANK YOU!! This is exactly what i thought.


    No no no. Please don't believe the quote above yours. Please, it's completely not based on any truth whatsoever and is way out there. Exercise is absolutely about weight loss and about fitness and health. Diet alone cannot bring you results that you can sustain because a) you need to BURN calories, not just take in less, and also, if you only diet, you are guaranteed to burn off more musle than you would have to if you were to continuously work out your muscles, by tearing and rebulilding them.
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    Exercise has nothing to do with weight loss.

    Weight loss is all about diet.

    Exercise is for fitness and health.

    They are two different things.



    THANK YOU THANK YOU!! This is exactly what i thought.


    No no no. Please don't believe the quote above yours. Please, it's completely not based on any truth whatsoever and is way out there. Exercise is absolutely about weight loss and about fitness and health. Diet alone cannot bring you results that you can sustain because a) you need to BURN calories, not just take in less, and also, if you only diet, you are guaranteed to burn off more musle than you would have to if you were to continuously work out your muscles, by tearing and rebulilding them.

    Actually they were right.

    Weight loss comes due to a caloric deficit, you can achieve this said deficit from diet alone, of if you like eating more from diet and exercise. The benefits of exercise are far more then weight loss as you can do that from diet alone, but you cannot get fit from diet alone.
  • LizKurz
    LizKurz Posts: 340 Member
    Exercise has nothing to do with weight loss.

    Weight loss is all about diet.

    Exercise is for fitness and health.

    They are two different things.



    THANK YOU THANK YOU!! This is exactly what i thought.


    No no no. Please don't believe the quote above yours. Please, it's completely not based on any truth whatsoever and is way out there. Exercise is absolutely about weight loss and about fitness and health. Diet alone cannot bring you results that you can sustain because a) you need to BURN calories, not just take in less, and also, if you only diet, you are guaranteed to burn off more musle than you would have to if you were to continuously work out your muscles, by tearing and rebulilding them.

    Actually they were right.

    Weight loss comes due to a caloric deficit, you can achieve this said deficit from diet alone, of if you like eating more from diet and exercise. The benefits of exercise are far more then weight loss as you can do that from diet alone, but you cannot get fit from diet alone.

    Agreed. So, not weight loss is all about diet, but diet is all about weight loss. They are two very different things.
  • susannamarie
    susannamarie Posts: 2,148 Member
    Why would you stop exercising when you get to goal?


    Because I HATE exercising.

    You can lose weight without exercise, just follow MFP's intake. You may lose weight without it, but you will never be healthy without exercise. I suggest finding something active that you do enjoy, it doesn't have to be a gym workout.

    What he said. It could be dancing, martial arts, horseback riding ... just something.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Exercise has nothing to do with weight loss.

    Weight loss is all about diet.

    Exercise is for fitness and health.

    They are two different things.



    THANK YOU THANK YOU!! This is exactly what i thought.


    No no no. Please don't believe the quote above yours. Please, it's completely not based on any truth whatsoever and is way out there. Exercise is absolutely about weight loss and about fitness and health. Diet alone cannot bring you results that you can sustain because a) you need to BURN calories, not just take in less, and also, if you only diet, you are guaranteed to burn off more musle than you would have to if you were to continuously work out your muscles, by tearing and rebulilding them.

    Actually they were right.

    Weight loss comes due to a caloric deficit, you can achieve this said deficit from diet alone, of if you like eating more from diet and exercise. The benefits of exercise are far more then weight loss as you can do that from diet alone, but you cannot get fit from diet alone.

    Agreed. So, not weight loss is all about diet, but diet is all about weight loss. They are two very different things.
    No, weight loss is all about diet, exercise is all about fitness. You can lose weight perfectly fine without gaining fitness, and you can gain fitness perfectly fine without losing weight. They are two completely different activities, one has nothing to do with the other.

    Weight loss and body composition are two completely different things, and are totally unrelated. You don't NEED to lose weight to get fit, and you also don't NEED to get fit to lose weight. Everyone has their own specific goal in mind.
  • Julzanne72
    Julzanne72 Posts: 468 Member
    I excercise so I can eat more....lol!! JK, I exercise because I don't want to just "lose weight", I want to be leaner and look good, have muscle tone, etc....the extra food is just an added bonus!
  • bunny1006
    bunny1006 Posts: 325 Member
    bump for later
  • Why would you stop exercising when you get to goal?


    Because I HATE exercising.
    [/quote]

    I'm no expert on this matter, but i also HATE exercising!! however i've been working out for about two months now and since i started i feel great! I have a lot of energy (granted i dnt stay up all night studying for a test) and i feel great!! not only am i not moping around about my weight and why it isnt coming off, but i'm making better choices when eating or grocery shopping. try it out who knows you might end up liking it! =)
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