Spanking is NOT abuse...
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I would never hit a child in any way, personally.
& how many children do you have exactly?? Mmmm me thinks NONE!!!:mad:
Russ
Huh? So someone who wouldn't hit children must not have children? I have 3 of them from ages 8-14 and I have never once hit any of them. And before anyone says anything about how my kids must be "easy" let me just say that my 8 year old is lucky I am her mother (and that her father happens to be just as against spanking as I am) because I know for a fact that in a spanking house she would have been spanked often.0 -
damn, I saw spanking and thought this was a totally different subject
happened to me as well LOL
But, talking about what this topic is about, I think the same way.. How many times did my dad do that to mecause I didnt want to go to school.. AND that was the reason I changed my mind and I started going again. People have a completely different meaning in head these days, you cant touch your kid at all cause your are abusing him/her.. WTH! Its called discipline!!0 -
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You wouldn't spank a random child in the grocery store for calling you an a-hole, right? So why would you treat your own child worse than someone else's? Pooowwweerr.0 -
I think a spanking done in anger, even if it's a hand on a bottom, can be abusive. I think that when we lash out at our children and smack them on the bottom because we are angry or hurt or feel wronged, that it can send the message that it's okay to lash out when we feel wronged. On the other hand, if spanking is not done in anger or with emotion attached, but as a consequence (that has already been warned of), directly correlated to the behavior, that is NOT abuse and can be a very effective form of discipline.
We do spank, only for direct disobedience/defiance, and not in anger, ever. We rarely have to spank anyway, and I have never had either of my older ones think or indicate that the punishment was undeserved or unfair - they accept it as a consequence for their action. That said, it's more effective for some kids than others. My younger son is very empathetic -usually talking to him and having him put himself in the shoes of the person he has wronged is enough to make him feel remorse and seek to make ammends. The older one, not so much.0 -
Sometimes you just gotta spank it...
Oh wrong thread?
You can spank me but you cant spank my kid!
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I agree! Sometimes it is difficult and if the child wont listen a swot on the bum just to remind them that you are the boss is called for! The original post was about a 2year old though and I think just posting spanking was not helpful to the poster! My daughter is 19 months old and sometimes when she does something really dangerous or will not listen no matter what you do we give her a tap on the bum. No shame in that! I would be very ashamed if my daughter grew up to be a terrible person who didn't care about right from wrong though.
Tough love is still love when done properly!0 -
When you are thinking about spanking your child you should stop and think about any other situation in which hitting someone would be appropriate. ie. Would you hit your spouse if they did something wrong? Would you hit a coworker? Would you hit a stranger? If it's not okay to hit these people, why is it okay to hit your child?0
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IT's true, especially when it's employed whilst enjoying some 'extra curricular nocturnal activity.'0
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This is actually more of a legal issue than anything. Spanking, in most states, becomes abusive in the following ways:
If the age of the child exceeds 10 years (some states lower), as it is consider sexually abusive due to the established usage of spanking as a sexual stimulation tactic, and children of these ages are often old enough to experience sexual arousal.
If the spanking is any of the following:
~Hard enough, with one swat, to leave visible marks such as a red hand print, welt, or bruise
~Repeatedly committed to the point of creating marks indicated above
~Repeatedly used to the point of causing psychological trauma to the child
~When the person doing the spanking uses an object, examples such as the belt, wooden spoons, hair brushes, and shoes
The psychological community defines appropriate spanking to be in children under 5 older than 1, when done lightly. This is because at this age, children learn through the shock of the situation, not because of any actual pain. However, this same effect can be achieved through non-violent means. One of my professors would suddenly turn his children upside-down. Removing the self-control and ease of surroundings of the child (in other words, causing fear) is the ultimate goal to get them to stop doing things they shouldn't do.
Personally, I don't agree with hitting children, it is too easy to get out of hand. The memories of that follow you for your whole life... I know from personal experience.
Ultimately though, I don't care if that's what you choose to do as long as it is within the bounds of the law.0 -
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Much obliged,
Steven
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