Anyone transitioning to "clean eating"?

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I want to start transitioning to clean eating, trust me I know this transition is going to be extremely hard. I wanted to know if there were any other transitioners. If so please add me. For my first day, which will be tomorrow, I plan on not having any bread or granulated sugar. Then I plan on cutting out ranch out of my diet and so on. Any who for those who are transitioning what changes have you made so far? What do you think is going to be the hardest part of this transition and why are you transitioning to clean eating?
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  • Amberetta82
    Amberetta82 Posts: 153 Member
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  • AeolianHarp
    AeolianHarp Posts: 463 Member
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    I'd recommend against it.

    First, the word "clean," at best, is ambiguous. You'll see 101 definitions, most of which don't agree and all of which are focused on food restriction.

    Second, it advocates restriction. It has been shown many times that flexible dieters are the most successful and restriction can cause many problems.

    Third, restrictive dieting is not better than flexible dieting. Google the USDA's discretionary calorie allotment. Essentially, it has been shown that 10-20% of one's calories coming from "non-healthy" sources (this is pretty vague but it's referring to external sugar sources) is the same as getting 100% from non-processed food sources.

    Fourth, cutting out foods is not a solution. You can still eat all the things you listed and be healthier than or equally as healthy as almost anyone who does not include those things.

    So, the question becomes this: Why do you want to cut out those things?

    If it's because you think you'll be healthier then you're doing it for no good reason. If it's because you think your body will look better then, again, you're doing it for no good reason. If you're doing it because you are biologically deficient in a manner that these foods cannot be properly digested then I think you should cut them out.
  • allegram
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    First off, you've got the right idea about making incremental changes. I have gone about 14 months mostly-clean eating and trust me, you won't want to go back! The best piece of advice I can think to give is to track how you're feeling. I kept a journal and I was amazed to see stuff like "Day 3 - Skin is more radiant", "Day 8 - I have so much energy!", "Day 12 - Is my hair getting thicker?" etc.
  • ForeverIrish
    ForeverIrish Posts: 232 Member
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    I'm trying. I'm trying to follow Michi's Ladder as best I can, and I think it's helped.
  • traceracer
    traceracer Posts: 303 Member
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    There are many ideas on "clean eating" for alot of different people. I try to stay away from most processed foods, I buy my meat from local farmers I know, Iand I try to eat mostly veggies everyday. I put a great big stress on TRY also.....lol
  • MelissaGraham7
    MelissaGraham7 Posts: 403 Member
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    http://www.thegraciouspantry.com/what-is-clean-eating/

    I am working very slowly on it...meaning clean eating as in without processed foods, white sugars and flours, etc. Unlike the poster above, I disagree with all his reasons to avoid it as I am not sure he understood what it is, since it does not eliminate any food macronutrient groups (carbs, protein, fat) but is working on eliminating the foods that we all know to be bad for us! I agree in doing it slowly, weaning things out gradually over time so you can adjust. After all, this is a lifetime project. ;) Good for all of us working on it!
  • bluebird321
    bluebird321 Posts: 732 Member
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    I've been doing it for over a year and It has worked well for me. Keep getting opinions and don't stop doing your own research.
  • xlpavenged7x
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    I have just started eating clean and working out, the results? I have lost 5 pounds so far, and I feel a lot happier and healthier. To me, it is well worth it and your body will thank you in the future.
  • AeolianHarp
    AeolianHarp Posts: 463 Member
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    That link is just awful. The whole site is just based on silliness. She has no clue what she's talking about. I commend her for capitalizing on the ignorance of the general public to make a profit by creating "clean" dishes but, really, it's just nonsense.
    I have just started eating clean and working out, the results? I have lost 5 pounds so far, and I feel a lot happier and healthier. To me, it is well worth it and your body will thank you in the future.

    How can you attribute it to clean eating when you started exercising? How do you know it isn't the exercising and the calorie deficit that probably resulted from eating less calorically dense foods?
  • Sobe1970
    Sobe1970 Posts: 36 Member
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    Call it what you like...I sometimes think the term "clean eating" is very over-used. I think it's a great idea to try different strategies to achieve your health and fitness goals. For me, I've noticed I have a lot more energy when I stay away from sugary foods and carbs like pasta and bread/muffins etc. I feel great when I eat fresh fruits and vegetables, grains like quinoa and brown rice, and good quality lean protein. I am also incorporating the healthy fats like coconut oil, avacado, and fats from nuts like almonds and walnuts. I am not super strict - I do have a weakness for red wine and I will occassionaly indulge in some greasy pizza or an ice-cream treat but I definitely notice a huge difference when I eat those things. Best of luck! I would love to hear how you feel after a few weeks of experimenting...send me a message if you have time! :bigsmile:
  • cranberrycat
    cranberrycat Posts: 233 Member
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    Clean eating means something different to everyone, and at various levels.

    Personally (and obviously with some exceptions), I try to eat foods that are minimally processed. Foods that I can make myself. Some items still come out of boxes or cans, but I really try to start from fresh. If it does come out of a box/container, then I try to go with simple ingredients, not labels with things that I haven't heard of before.

    I just feel that eating this way is a good approach to an anti-inflammatory diet. I follow Zone Diet principles, as well.
  • traceracer
    traceracer Posts: 303 Member
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    I'd recommend against it.

    First, the word "clean," at best, is ambiguous. You'll see 101 definitions, most of which don't agree and all of which are focused on food restriction.

    Second, it advocates restriction. It has been shown many times that flexible dieters are the most successful and restriction can cause many problems.

    Third, restrictive dieting is not better than flexible dieting. Google the USDA's discretionary calorie allotment. Essentially, it has been shown that 10-20% of one's calories coming from "non-healthy" sources (this is pretty vague but it's referring to external sugar sources) is the same as getting 100% from non-processed food sources.

    Fourth, cutting out foods is not a solution. You can still eat all the things you listed and be healthier than or equally as healthy as almost anyone who does not include those things.

    So, the question becomes this: Why do you want to cut out those things?

    If it's because you think you'll be healthier then you're doing it for no good reason. If it's because you think your body will look better then, again, you're doing it for no good reason. If you're doing it because you are biologically deficient in a manner that these foods cannot be properly digested then I think you should cut them out.
    I dont see how cutting out preservatives, additives, and ect, could possibly ever be a bad thing? All people are different. Genetics plays a big part in if they can live off junk food and still be healthy. I think you are crazy if you think eating nothing but processed foods all day can be better than eating non-processed foods. There are many more factors involved than just comparing sugars in processed foods and natural whole foods. Adding to this, I have eaten nothing butt vegetables for weeks at a time in the past from my garden and have never felt better in my life:)
  • br2012
    br2012 Posts: 52 Member
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    I'm pretty much clean EXCEPT for bread and pizza when I'm out. haha. I do well at home with Ezekiel bread. It is a Godsend. It is satisfying yet so filling. It takes a little getting used to but once you taste white bread again, it tastes like cake. (In frozen organic section if you havent heard of it)
  • AeolianHarp
    AeolianHarp Posts: 463 Member
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    I dont see how cutting out preservatives, additives, and ect, could possibly ever be a bad thing?

    It's not a question of whether it'll bad or not but rather whether it will make a difference. Ultimately, it makes no difference assuming someone is intelligent enough to be reasonable.
    All people are different. Genetics plays a big part in if they can live off junk food and still be healthy.

    Read my last line of my last post. I mentioned biological deficiency. In a completely healthy individual, they can eat junk food (within moderation) and be fine. Please do not suggest that I am saying she should live off of it. You're completely misinterpreting what I have stated.
    I think you are crazy if you think eating nothing but processed foods all day can be better than eating non-processed foods.

    Can you please point me in the direction where I said someone should eat nothing but processed foods? I said flexible dieter.
    There are many more factors involved than just comparing sugars in processed foods and natural whole foods. Adding to this, I have eaten nothing butt vegetables for weeks at a time in the past from my garden and have never felt better in my life:)

    Maybe it was the sugar, maybe it wasn't. It's hard to tell because life is full of so many variables that one thing can make a world of a difference and it might not be the thing that you think it is.
  • traceracer
    traceracer Posts: 303 Member
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    I dont see how cutting out preservatives, additives, and ect, could possibly ever be a bad thing?

    It's not a question of whether it'll bad or not but rather whether it will make a difference. Ultimately, it makes no difference assuming someone is intelligent enough to be reasonable.
    All people are different. Genetics plays a big part in if they can live off junk food and still be healthy.

    Read my last line of my last post. I mentioned biological deficiency. In a completely healthy individual, they can eat junk food (within moderation) and be fine. Please do not suggest that I am saying she should live off of it. You're completely misinterpreting what I have stated.
    I think you are crazy if you think eating nothing but processed foods all day can be better than eating non-processed foods.

    Can you please point me in the direction where I said someone should eat nothing but processed foods? I said flexible dieter.
    There are many more factors involved than just comparing sugars in processed foods and natural whole foods. Adding to this, I have eaten nothing butt vegetables for weeks at a time in the past from my garden and have never felt better in my life:)

    Maybe it was the sugar, maybe it wasn't. It's hard to tell because life is full of so many variables that one thing can make a world of a difference and it might not be the thing that you think it is.
    The fact of the matter is, eat what you want. Eat what makes you feel good. If you indulge in something that may not be good for you, you will most likely not die. If you want to eat clean(consuming no redefined or processed foods) more power to a person in my book. It isnt my place to advise a person against it or not. My point is,at a nutritional level, the less processing that is done to a food, the better for you. That is fact:)
  • twinmomtwice4
    twinmomtwice4 Posts: 1,069 Member
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    I've been eating more clean for the last few weeks and I feel so much better. Clean eating, to me, means no (or very little) processed foods...lots of fresh veggies and fruits, whole grains, etc.

    It hasn't been a difficult transition at all. I've found wonderful recipes and easy ways to make the foods I like using clean foods.

    No need to give up ranch dressing...just make your own! I have an awesome light buttermilk ranch dressing recipe that is to die for!! My family LOVES it!

    For every processed food you eat, there are tons of recipes on how to do a homemade version in a healthy way. You just have to google it and then devote time to making it.

    It's definitely worth the time! Feel free to add me if you like!
  • AeolianHarp
    AeolianHarp Posts: 463 Member
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    The fact of the matter is, eat what you want. Eat what makes you feel good. If you indulge in something that may not be good for you, you will most likely not die. If you want to eat clean(consuming no redefined or processed foods) more power to a person in my book. It isnt my place to advise a person against it or not. My point is,at a nutritional level, the less processing that is done to a food, the better for you. That is fact:)

    Eating clean is ambiguous. There are 101 foods that are omitted by your definition of what constitutes clean. Whey and tofu are examples that come to mind instantly.

    Also, no, it's not a fact. You're excluding it from the context of a person's diet. The USDA has something called discretionary calories, which allows extra calories to be consumed from refined sources. This ends up working out to 10-20% of someone's calories. It has been shown that someone who eats 10-20% of their calories from refined sources is just as healthy as someone who does not eat those calories from non-refined sources.

    According to what you're saying, these foods that are good for you should ALWAYS be good (this is implied by how you have defined things). This is simply not true. Flexible dieters (people who use their discretionary calories) are just as healthy. If there was such thing as healthy and unhealthy foods then there would always be positive and negative consequences to eating those specific foods regardless of dosage. It's simply illogical to assume that, though.

    Now, I do feel it's my place to advise against it because binge eating generally occurs during or after restrictive dieting ("The cause of binge eating is unknown. However, binge eating often begins during or after strict dieting." - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0003749/). People should eat how they want and eat it without thinking that it's unhealthy for them. Candy, in of itself, isn't unhealthy. To say that means it's unhealthy to eat even a single piece. Candy only becomes unhealthy once it prevents in the intake of nutrients for an extended period of time.
  • Natihilator
    Natihilator Posts: 1,778 Member
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    I dont see how cutting out preservatives, additives, and ect, could possibly ever be a bad thing?
    It's not a question of whether it'll bad or not but rather whether it will make a difference. Ultimately, it makes no difference assuming someone is intelligent enough to be reasonable.

    "reasonable" is subjective, though. A lot of people don't know what "reasonable" amounts/types/whatnot of food are, hence why they have weight to lose in the first place, excluding medical reasons.

    The OP did not state whether they are wanting to adopt a clean diet for overall general health reasons, or strictly weight loss reasons. I think the intelligent assumption is that if someone is cutting out foods high in refined sugar, saturated fats, deep fried foods, preservatives, additives, etc, it will be of benefit to them in at least one way.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    I'd recommend against it.

    First, the word "clean," at best, is ambiguous. You'll see 101 definitions, most of which don't agree and all of which are focused on food restriction.

    Second, it advocates restriction. It has been shown many times that flexible dieters are the most successful and restriction can cause many problems.

    Third, restrictive dieting is not better than flexible dieting. Google the USDA's discretionary calorie allotment. Essentially, it has been shown that 10-20% of one's calories coming from "non-healthy" sources (this is pretty vague but it's referring to external sugar sources) is the same as getting 100% from non-processed food sources.

    Fourth, cutting out foods is not a solution. You can still eat all the things you listed and be healthier than or equally as healthy as almost anyone who does not include those things.

    So, the question becomes this: Why do you want to cut out those things?

    If it's because you think you'll be healthier then you're doing it for no good reason. If it's because you think your body will look better then, again, you're doing it for no good reason. If you're doing it because you are biologically deficient in a manner that these foods cannot be properly digested then I think you should cut them out.
    This.

    I dont see how cutting out preservatives, additives, and ect, could possibly ever be a bad thing?
    Well, to be fair, 99% of preservatives and additives on ingredient lists are just chemical or trade names for things that normally occur in food anyway. There are very few truly artificial preservatives. So, it really makes no difference from a health point of view, in moderation.
  • cohophysh
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    everybody is an expert..do what you want and if it works great