IBS Type Symptoms - no diagnosis

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Hello Everyone,

I just came across a comment that eating cereal that contained aspartame triggered IBS - I was hoping maybe some of you have some insight.
Hubby suffers from some sort of IBS-type affliction. He has had a number of tests done over the last few years and has yet to be actually diagnosed with anything.
We thought perhaps dairy was the culprit but are not so sure, as there are times he has reactions when he hasn't had any dairy. Just this morning he suggested it was perhaps aspartame, as when we do drink soda it is diet.

Without getting too detailed, he is in the bathroom often several times a day, sometimes several times in an evening! He experiences abdominal discomfort, sometimes pain. This is usually not long after he has eaten.

It's been hard to try to pinpoint what in his diet may be the cause, mainly because he seems to - while obviously really bothered by this - lack the discipline to control his diet and try to narrow this down. He did agree to eat clean with me for 2 weeks a while back (no dairy, nothing processed, no sugar, nothing fermented - the Wild Roses eating plan without the supplements) and there was notable improvement. Where he faltered was being patient enough to add foods back in one day at a time to isolate the culprit.

So while it seems obvious that he needs to try to isolate, it may NOT be just a food-related issue or perhaps we are on the wrong track with the suspected problem foods. I wondered if anyone had gone through anything similar, and may have some suggestions or results that he can learn from rather than starting with such a broad spectrum of possibilities.
Any input appreciated. Thanks!
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  • memaw66
    memaw66 Posts: 2,558 Member
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    Well, I don't know what your husband is eating but I was having the same problems and I thought it was IBS in fact was told that it was but I don't think so. I thought maybe it was dairy but that's not it either because I can eat cereal, ice cream , etc... I have found though what really triggers it for me and I try to stay very far away from is ranch dressing. I say ranch because I don't eat any other kind. But I have found that every time I eat it, no matter where it's from, home, restaurant or whatever, it gives me the symptoms and tears my stomach up!! For years I have suffered and couldn't figure out what it was. I wasn't until I started dieting and eating lots of salads I began to make the connection. At first I would eat small amounts of the dressing and it would happen, so I switched to low fat or low cal ranch and it still happened. Now I eat the same salads with NO dressing and I don't have any symptoms. Haven't had problems in months. But that's just me. Tell him not to give up. Just take notice of what he just ate right before the problem begins. And then notice when he DOESN'T have the problem, write it down if he has to, and soon he will be able to figure it out. I hope this happens soon for him because I know how uncomfortable it can be. I know where every restroom is , WHEREVER we go!! No one should have to live like that, not fun. Best of luck to your husband and you on your weight loss journey.

    Memaw
  • erikazj
    erikazj Posts: 2,365 Member
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    Hello - Sorry to hear that your husband is suffering, I can sympathise! Although some foods can trigger IBS symptoms, there doesn't always have to be a trigger. Keeping a food/symptom diary can definitely help narrow down what might not be helping, but you will need to do it over several weeks/months. Stress can also make it worse, as can tiredness, eating too much, eating too little, eating too little fibre, eating too much fibre, too much fat, too much spice...it's different for everyone. I am sensitive to dairy, especially in the mornings. I can't eat cereal with milk, or porridge made with milk first thing in the morning, although later in the day it is fine.

    I would suggest if it is not diagnosed that your husband does go see his doctor - the symptoms of IBS are also symptoms for some other things that you should rule out, and only the doc can do that. There are also some medications that help, although I personally haven't had much luck with them.

    Also, I do find keeping hydrated really helps, another reason to drink lots of water!

    Send me a personal message if I can help any further - but do go see the doc.

    Erika
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
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    I'm really sorry to hear about your hubby! I can empathize.

    Back in November I was training for a half-marathon, and that's when my symptoms began to present full-force. Following an 8-mile run I had debilitating abdominal pain, was stuck in the bathroom all night, and in the morning passed an alarming amount of blood. The GI specialist saw me right away and confirmed the presence of blood. I went in for a CT, X-ray, and finally a colonoscopy, and was diagnosed with IBS. I was placed on a low-residue (low-fiber) diet before the colonoscopy and actually felt much better.
    The problem with IBS is that everyone has different triggers. For me, intense exercise, bran, beans, and whey are all triggers. I have to actually limit the amount of fiber I get because too much will cause extra mucous and gas formation. I can digest fiber from fruit and vegetables. Your hubby might want to work on his soluble and insoluble fiber intake. For me, soluble fiber is more digestable.

    I also received a rx for an anti-spasmodic, which helps control the contractions of the intestines. Abdominal pain can occur when the colon doesn't contract in its normal wavelike pattern. I usually take them after a long run to ease discomfort.

    If it continues, he should see a gastroenterologist. I feel SO much better these days. Less embarrassment and discomfort. :flowerforyou:
  • berra
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    The first time I've jumped in on the boards, enjoyed reading everyone elses comments. I have to agree with the lady about the ranch dressing. My husband and I both have had the same reaction after eating. Forgot one night and ate it, not long after was definitely feeling the affects.
    Seems silly that something that simple could cause such a problem. Would definitely be worth eliminating from the diet and see what happens.
  • bakergirl62
    bakergirl62 Posts: 248 Member
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    I was diagnosed over 25 years ago with IBS. It it horribly painful and can be life restricting. I was told by my doctor to take 1 TEAspoon of citricel every day or 1 imodium in the morning and 1 in the afternoon. I take two every day together first thing in the morning. That was before they had medication for it. My regiment works fine for me, but not everyone is the same. It is way worse if I forget to take my imodium for longer than two days.
  • Phoenix_Rising
    Phoenix_Rising Posts: 11,417 Member
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    I also received a rx for an anti-spasmodic, which helps control the contractions of the intestines. Abdominal pain can occur when the colon doesn't contract in its normal wavelike pattern. I usually take them after a long run to ease discomfort.

    I was misdiagnosed for years as having an ulcer. Finally a GI specialist determined I have on overly spasmodic intestine and gave me an rx for the same! I was so happy to hear the pain was just spasms, not an ulcer eating a hole through my tummy, lol.
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
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    I also received a rx for an anti-spasmodic, which helps control the contractions of the intestines. Abdominal pain can occur when the colon doesn't contract in its normal wavelike pattern. I usually take them after a long run to ease discomfort.

    I was misdiagnosed for years as having an ulcer. Finally a GI specialist determined I have on overly spasmodic intestine and gave me an rx for the same! I was so happy to hear the pain was just spasms, not an ulcer eating a hole through my tummy, lol.

    That is great to hear!! That stuff is such a lifesaver. Sometimes I forget to take it and I'll be at work or something after my morning run in PAIN. :sick: I am finally able to get back to some moderate mileage now that I have it, and when I take it I can feel a huge difference.
  • zebras
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    My husband has seen countless gastro doctors and surgeons for IBS like stuff. He was at the end of his rope over it after an attack of diverticulitis. To make a long story short, one doctor said this one particular surgery might help him, but recommended he try biofeedback first. So, he did. This therapist had been through similar problems herself, and has been advising him on his diet (big advocate of clean eating!), relaxation, showed him how to massage his colon, and now doing the biofeedback, and it has been like a miracle cure. Ironically, she is located at a women's health center!
  • leavinglasvegas
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    I have also been diagnosed with IBS, but my symptoms involved long bouts of constipation. During a colonoscopy my doc discovered that my colon had twisted. He said that I have "extra plumbing". (Redundant colon) I woke up durning the colonoscopy when he was trying to untwist it, OMG, that was soooo painful.
    I have found that a high fiber, low processed vegetarian diet diet works best for me as well as no cows milk. Funny that cows milk and ice cream bothers me, but I can eat other dairy. I also do the Master Cleanse detox about twice per year and that has also helped me alot. Its not for everybody though, and I'm not suggesting it to cause any type of debate. Just saying what works for me.

    Holly:flowerforyou:
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
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    Hi, it is possible that your hubby has an intolerance to grains and therefore the reason for IBS symptoms.

    http://www.graininformationservice.co.uk/content/1/59/irritable-bowel-syndrome-ibs.html
    Hello Everyone,

    I just came across a comment that eating cereal that contained aspartame triggered IBS - I was hoping maybe some of you have some insight.
    Hubby suffers from some sort of IBS-type affliction. He has had a number of tests done over the last few years and has yet to be actually diagnosed with anything.
    We thought perhaps dairy was the culprit but are not so sure, as there are times he has reactions when he hasn't had any dairy. Just this morning he suggested it was perhaps aspartame, as when we do drink soda it is diet.

    Without getting too detailed, he is in the bathroom often several times a day, sometimes several times in an evening! He experiences abdominal discomfort, sometimes pain. This is usually not long after he has eaten.

    It's been hard to try to pinpoint what in his diet may be the cause, mainly because he seems to - while obviously really bothered by this - lack the discipline to control his diet and try to narrow this down. He did agree to eat clean with me for 2 weeks a while back (no dairy, nothing processed, no sugar, nothing fermented - the Wild Roses eating plan without the supplements) and there was notable improvement. Where he faltered was being patient enough to add foods back in one day at a time to isolate the culprit.

    So while it seems obvious that he needs to try to isolate, it may NOT be just a food-related issue or perhaps we are on the wrong track with the suspected problem foods. I wondered if anyone had gone through anything similar, and may have some suggestions or results that he can learn from rather than starting with such a broad spectrum of possibilities.
    Any input appreciated. Thanks!
  • jessmomof3
    jessmomof3 Posts: 4,590 Member
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    Hello Everyone,

    I just came across a comment that eating cereal that contained aspartame triggered IBS - I was hoping maybe some of you have some insight.
    Hubby suffers from some sort of IBS-type affliction. He has had a number of tests done over the last few years and has yet to be actually diagnosed with anything.
    We thought perhaps dairy was the culprit but are not so sure, as there are times he has reactions when he hasn't had any dairy. Just this morning he suggested it was perhaps aspartame, as when we do drink soda it is diet.

    Without getting too detailed, he is in the bathroom often several times a day, sometimes several times in an evening! He experiences abdominal discomfort, sometimes pain. This is usually not long after he has eaten.

    It's been hard to try to pinpoint what in his diet may be the cause, mainly because he seems to - while obviously really bothered by this - lack the discipline to control his diet and try to narrow this down. He did agree to eat clean with me for 2 weeks a while back (no dairy, nothing processed, no sugar, nothing fermented - the Wild Roses eating plan without the supplements) and there was notable improvement. Where he faltered was being patient enough to add foods back in one day at a time to isolate the culprit.

    So while it seems obvious that he needs to try to isolate, it may NOT be just a food-related issue or perhaps we are on the wrong track with the suspected problem foods. I wondered if anyone had gone through anything similar, and may have some suggestions or results that he can learn from rather than starting with such a broad spectrum of possibilities.
    Any input appreciated. Thanks!

    I can NOT eat Fiber One cereal or *fake* fiber (aka, in Fiber one bars or other processed cereals/ bars). Aspartame is a trigger food for me for my IBS and migraines.

    I was diagnosed w/ IBS about 8 yrs ago now. What helped me was eating *clean* and cutting out the processed foods. I try to get my fiber from whole foods (fruits, veggies, whole grains). Exercise, and drinking plenty of water.

    Good luck to your hubby!
  • kimber607
    kimber607 Posts: 7,128 Member
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    Could it be celiac?
    Has he ever been tested for food allergies (seen an allergist?)

    Kim
  • GreenEyedMonster
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    I love spicy foods but I've recently had to cut back on a lot of spicy stuff. I love jalapenos but I can't eat them at all anymore. Once in a while I'll "forget" and decide I'm going to eat them and the next day or earlier I end up reading a lot of magazines. I think there are just some things that some folks can't eat even after they've been eating it their whole lives. Of course maybe I should see a doctor and make sure there isn't a specific reason I can't eat jalapenos...
  • WINEYINVA
    WINEYINVA Posts: 75 Member
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    I have IBS type symptoms when I eat certain dairies like ice cream, cheese seems to be okay. and also when I used to raid my kids snack cabinet. I have been trying to eat clean and healthy lately and it seems to have curbed the symptoms for the most part. Every so often though they come back and so I take an immodium and that seems to help.
  • Ripgirl
    Ripgirl Posts: 172 Member
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    Thank you all so much for sharing your experiences - I really appreciate it.

    I believe that Celiac was ruled out at one point and he's just had another colonoscopy after changing to a new doctor - all normal.

    It sounds like really he needs to be a little more proactive in trying to figure this out, you've all mentioned varying triggers. I'll try to suggest to him to eat clean for a few weeks and then re-introduce food types one day at a time to try and isolate what he's reacting to.

    Thank you all again so much for your input!
  • Resalyn
    Resalyn Posts: 528 Member
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    Thank you all so much for sharing your experiences - I really appreciate it.

    I believe that Celiac was ruled out at one point and he's just had another colonoscopy after changing to a new doctor - all normal.

    It sounds like really he needs to be a little more proactive in trying to figure this out, you've all mentioned varying triggers. I'll try to suggest to him to eat clean for a few weeks and then re-introduce food types one day at a time to try and isolate what he's reacting to.

    Thank you all again so much for your input!

    I'll add my two cents about eating clean and staying away from processed stuff. When I'm eating a cleaner lifestyle and avoiding processed carbs, my IBS symptoms go away. Another trigger for me is bagged greens - any type of greens that might have some kind of preservative kicks my IBS in high gear. But, when I"m eating clean, they go away.....
  • CaGinger
    CaGinger Posts: 180 Member
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    My boyfriend has Crohns. Its all in the same IBD family. Here are some links to look at. You might bring it up to your doctor. If not Crohns could it be Colitis?

    Symptoms:
    http://www.webmd.com/ibd-crohns-disease/crohns-disease/crohns-disease-symptoms

    What is it?
    http://www.webmd.com/ibd-crohns-disease/crohns-disease/crohns-disease-diagnosis

    Good luck!
  • CaGinger
    CaGinger Posts: 180 Member
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    Any update? Here's hoping you find some answers! :flowerforyou:
  • Ripgirl
    Ripgirl Posts: 172 Member
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    Thanks for checking in, CaGinger!

    Hubby actually mentioned just 2 days ago that he is going to cut out aspartame and see if that makes a difference.
    Although he suffers, it is difficult to get him to be disciplined enough to eat clean which is what I think would be the most helpful in finding some answers. I suspect at this point it is probably frustrating me more than him - it seems like he is ALWAYS in the bathroom. Poor guy.

    I believe that the doctors did rule out celiac and his colonoscopies and other tests (both up and down) have all been normal. That said, they have yet to actually diagnose him with anything.

    One interesting thing I did recall recently was about 2 years ago when we were boating (so he was somewhat captive), I had purchased a multi-enzyme for him to aid in digestion. Because we were on the boat meals were a more set routine and I put the tablets on the edge of his plate with breakfast and dinner. It didn't magically fix everything, but there was definitely improvement which makes me wonder if he is lacking in some sort of digestive enzyme. I may try getting him to give that another go. Maybe cutting out the diet soda will help - that's the only thing he consumes that contains artificial sweetener.

    Thanks again to everyone for sharing your thoughts.
  • vegrunner
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    I hope he feels better soon! I am lactose intolerant myself and have been diagnosed with IBS. I've attached a list of dairy foods and their lactose content, when I ate dairy I got to the point to where I would only eat butter and hard cheese, i.e. cheddar, provolone, small amounts of mozzarella. I usually bought it in the blocks so I could tell physically how hard it was. This is important because softer cheeses have more whey in them. Whey, which contains a whopping 50% lactose, is actually a waste product of cheese processing. They used to throw it away, now you can find it in just about any processed product in the grocery store. I had to avoid it even in small amounts. Label reading is the key, I know its not fun:) As far as pizza goes: Papa John's didn't ever work too well with me, pizza hut and domino's usually were okay.

    I went vegan about 2 years ago and my stomach has thanked me ever since. I did a 180 degree shift in my diet, so I can't tell you if it was junk food, meat, or dairy that was the problem but I am now able to eat healthy stuff I never could before; i.e. beans, broccoli, soy, whole grain bread, oatmeal. Some say preservatives are also a problem for ibs. If I were to eat meat again I would stick to meats that clear your system easier such as fish and chicken and avoid red meat (pork and beef). Some say casein (protein) in milk can be the problem as well. Another weird thing that happened after going vegan was that I quit snoring. Some say dairy can cause mucus build up, that might be why.

    I agree that he should see a doctor if he doesn't get better. I hope he feels better soon. Here are some low lactose foods/ingredients:

    whey protein isolate
    butter
    provolone
    cheddar
    some brands of mozzarella

    Feel free to message me if you have any other questions



    http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/internet/digestive-health/nutrition/LactoseContent.pdf