Is having surgery to lose weight hard work?
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my husband had it done and it was a yr process .They had him take all kinds of test medical,mentally & physical,they had us going to tons of classes and he had to do a 6 month exercise and health diet before the surgery plus been on bars ,shakes and soups for 6 wks nothing else before the surgery. He couldnt eat solid foods for almost 2 months and he was in so much pain .he's been doing great on it and still dieting and watching what he eats some stuff upsets his stomach and he cant handle it but hes only able to eat as much as the kids do if that .my mil had the same surgery over 12 yrs ago and shes gained alot of weight back.hes lost over 150lbs0
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My opinion; it's a cop-out, an easier way out. No different than someone taking steroids to gain muscle. Not to mention the potential life altering complications of surgery even death.
Thanks for your opinion I guess.
I had lap and surgery 11/4/10, I have lost 160lbs so far, lots more to go.
I guess I copped out, but felt it was my only hope.
The cop out saved my life!!!0 -
Hi, I'm new here but felt it necessary to post to this topic.
I had the lapband back in 2010 and lost about 60lbs in the first year but then gained back almost 20lbs and I am almost at 2 and a half years out. The doctor said that some people get the lapband or gastric bypass and they lose weight fast but then, if your eating habits haven't really changed, you gain it back again.
I am on this site now to gain back my progress on weightloss and I am doing this for my children as much as myself. I need to be more active and I know that with the help of this community, I can do that.
The surgery isn't an easy way out. It's just a tool to get you started. It's up to you to make it work and that's what I plan to do! :-)0 -
One of my BFF's mom and dad both got WLS last summer, and I have watched both drop tremendous amounts of weight, but I know it has been a lot of hard work for them to lose weight, maintain the loss and adjust to life after surgery (portions, etc). I definitely don't think that it's for everyone, and I think there are as many people that get the surgery for the right reasons as there are people who get it for the wrong reasons. I know that her mom has spent her whole life battling her weight with no real success, which is when she decided to look into WLS. I know she doesn't regret it, but I know it also hasn't been the "easy way out" by any means.
I would think that having lap band or gastric bypass would be harder work than just diet and exercise, because of the extreme ramifications and risks involved with the surgery itself, and what happens if you disregard lifestyle changes and continue poor eating habits and lack of exercise.0 -
My opinion; it's a cop-out, an easier way out. No different than someone taking steroids to gain muscle. Not to mention the potential life altering complications of surgery even death.
If you haven't walked a mile in someone's shoes..... You have no idea what you are talking about.0 -
My opinion; it's a cop-out, an easier way out. No different than someone taking steroids to gain muscle. Not to mention the potential life altering complications of surgery even death.
I totally agree.
I agree as well...0 -
I had gastric bypass 10 years ago. I initially lost 135 lbs., needed to lose another 40 but never did. I've regained some and now need to lose about 70 lbs, but I'm still down 100 from where I started. I can eat anything and everything again now; couldn't for the first couple of years. I can't eat the volume of food that I used to be able to consume, but I can eat close to a normal portion size now. You'd never guess I'd had the surgery by seeing what I eat or how much I eat. But while I don't eat the amounts I used to, I still need to watch what I eat, I need to exercise more than I do, I need to do everything someone without surgery needs to do.
I was able to get off all medications within 6 weeks of surgery, diabetic tendencies disappeared and have not returned even while I was close to my highest weight. I did it because of those issues and severe back pain, shortness of breath, and inability to walk much more than 2 blocks. All are resolved now.
Surgery got me to a weight that helped resolve some health issues. It didn't get me to my ideal weight and I have to do that myself just like everyone else around here. It was worth it to me to get off the meds and to feel so much better even though I still have to fight for weight loss. It's not as magic as everyone thinks it is....0 -
Everyones opinions are different. I had the VSG, Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy, done on December 19, 2011. It was painful the first few days, then the adjustment to the way of eating, the portion sizes and just getting the mindset, "when i eat, I need to eat protein items". Basically the same as when you are dieting but the new sleeve keeps the portions to a minimum. I had started with a goal of 74 lbs to lose, I am currently at a loss of 53 lbs and feeling great. It is a new way of life, a new way of thinking and a new way of eating. I myself would do it again and have had no major issues with my new sleeve. Some may say its the "easier" way, but then, they havent been in my shoes or know what its all about. Again, everyone has different opinions and mine is that if you have tried all the other options and/or have health issues, I fully recommend the VSG.0
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My sediments exactly! If you havent walked in someones shoes, you have no room to judge!0
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Truthfully, the pre-surgery flaming hoops that patients have to jump through requires more commitment than most people are willing to put into weight loss. If commitment and willpower alone was enough, they wouldn't need the surgery.
While I'm sure there's some people out there getting WLS that shouldn't, the majority get it because it really is a last resort. Calling it a copout is like saying I'm taking the easy way out by wearing contacts or glasses instead of squinting to see better. Or that those silly diabetics should just learn to make their pancreas function better so they don't need insulin.0 -
My opinion; it's a cop-out, an easier way out. No different than someone taking steroids to gain muscle. Not to mention the potential life altering complications of surgery even death.
It is not an easier way out!0 -
People who have bypass or lap band surgery have to work just as hard to lose weight. Especially with the lap band. It's a tool. It will help you lose weight, but if the person doesn't change their eating and exercising habits, it won't do anything. Like someone mentioned, it is possible to eat around the restrictions of the lap band. Going through surgery and overhauling your entire lifestyle isn't "the easy way out". If someone took the steps to lose weight, get themselves healthy and change their life for the better, does it really matter which tools they used to do it? Applaud their effort and hard work, don't belittle them because you don't agree with their method.
Amen Sister!0 -
Yes it is hard and you have to be motivated to do what you need to do and not everything works the same even with the band. I researched for 5 years before having it done. You do the research and really ask lots of questions. Its not a quick fix by any means and with either surgery you can still can it all back. Most importantly you have to eat right and still exercise. Good luck to you and your goals to get control of your life. Nancy:happy:0
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I am sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone, I am not trying to belittle their efforts. I am just trying to learn more.
Don't worry, nothing you said was offensive.0 -
its absolutely not a cure for being overweight, but it gives lots of people the HOPE they need to take the next steps if they are obese, going to the gym probably isnt something they are comfortable with. Diet does NOT work for everyone, epecially if they have been dieting their entire lives and have screwed up their metabolism. I think its great that it really can give people a second chance to learn their bodies and what it will take to stay thinner. Of course they still have to workout and learn the rules of eating for their bodies but if they don't sure it will come back.
And yes there are a TON of pre-op appointments, requirements and work. That sometimes 20 pounds people have to lose is usually in the 2 weeks up to surgery through no carb liquid diet. I think most people make it through that 2 weeks and whatever weight they lose ONLY because its the very last step before they get their chance.0 -
My friend had surgery to reduce his weight, but in order to stay alive, he followed the strict regiment of post-op care. *That* was more effective for maintaining his health than the surgery was. He wanted to lose weight for his newborn son, so that he would can chase after his son when he's old enough to run. Physical changes isn't enough, it can be a start, such as reducing the inner thigh fat to help you get less friction therefore running/walking exercises wouldn't be such a painful thing with rashes and stuff. But the battle is mostly mental for sure.0
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I've never done it, but from watching documentaries, it looks harder to me. Much more painful and complicated, especially because you still have to battle all of the emotions associated with weight loss and such a drastic change.0
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It's still hard. I'd been thinking about it for awhile, and finally went ahead with it when I was doing Weight Watchers and just felt like I was starving all the time (not a problem I'd had doing WW before). Like others have said, there's a lot of prep work and time that goes into it. I lost about 60 pounds in the first 8 months or so and then sort of plateaued, because I wasn't being as careful about tracking my eating habits and such. Yes, you still have to work and you still have to count calories and whatnot, but for me it's just easier to stay within my calorie range when I can't physically eat as much. Anyone who says it's a cop out has no idea what they're talking about, IMO.0
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Many of the pre-surgery requirements are to insure that the patient can survive surgery, is mentally stable & won't transfer addictive behaviors expressed by overeating to other substances after surgery (ie alcohol, tobacco, drugs). Additionally, the pre-surgery requirements are designed to help patients start getting into a mindset that will help them make life-long lifestyle changes. Finally, they are also designed to assess whether the patients are willing and able to follow those changes. Most of these requirements are instituted by the insurance companies ... because they don't want to pay for an expensive surgery for no reason.
For me, the surgery (gastric sleeve bypass) is a tool. I am 47, I have lost significant weight on Atkins, Weight Watchers, & other programs, but have had trouble maintaining that weight loss & have gained it back time and again. The reduced volume of my stomach is one way to help me focus on portion size. I had the surgery in July 2011 so I'm still in the first year of losing weight. Because, at this point, the weight loss is fairly quick & not as difficult, I'm able to work on the "head" stuff ... the emotional cravings, correcting bad habits and learning new coping skills. I worry about the potential for gaining the weight back in the future, so I'm working really hard now to instill good habits, good thinking, and correcting emotional issues.
Some people have problems after surgery, some people don't. I had an excellent experience ... I healed quickly, the early pain that is expected after any surgery was manageable & resolved in a reasonable time frame.
It's not a "magic bullet" cure, but for people with co-morbidities, with a declining quality of life, with a history of problems losing weight & maintaining weight loss through "traditional" routes, it is a very viable option and often a necessary one.
It's not a cop-out; I still have to make significant changes in my diet and my activity level. But it helps get the weight off during the first year so you can make significant progress in your physical & mental health. I have come down from a high of 381 pounds to my current weight, 239 pounds. The changes I've experienced have been profound in ways I can't even begin to describe, & they cover all aspects of my lifestyle. I'm eating better, I'm exercising more, my mental attitude towards food is shifting in healthier directions, and I am motivated to continue making those changes.
The hard part of weight loss surgery is not in the first year, but in the years that come later when you have to maintain your success.
It's different from 'traditional' weight loss, and you have to be committed to making substantial changes, just like you do with 'traditional' weight loss.
For those thinking about it, there are different surgeries -- talk with your doctor extensively about what will work best for you. There are also a wide range of programs; some require long runs of liquid diets before & after surgery, some do not. Pre-op requirements (length of time, amount of weight loss, psychological & group support meetings, etc.) vary both with the program you go through & with your insurance. Most programs have free informational seminars ... check out several if you aren't sure what you want.
And best of luck to everybody who is working on getting healthier, no matter what route you take.0 -
...Because, at this point, the weight loss is fairly quick & not as difficult, I'm able to work on the "head" stuff ... the emotional cravings, correcting bad habits and learning new coping skills. I worry about the potential for gaining the weight back in the future, so I'm working really hard now to instill good habits, good thinking, and correcting emotional issues.
^^^ This. Because I'm not constantly focusing on how much I'm eating for meals and such, it's easier for me to focus on *why* I'm eating, especially if I want to snack in the evenings. And honestly, I've worked on a lot of emotional issues, and issues with my marriage and other relationships that I think I was previously hiding behind food.0 -
My opinion; it's a cop-out, an easier way out. No different than someone taking steroids to gain muscle. Not to mention the potential life altering complications of surgery even death.
Thanks for the uneducated, judgemental opinion. Those of us who have used surgery did not cop out of anything. I exercise and eat well and chose surgery to help with that journey. People--educated and smart people-- choose surgery to lose weight for reasons you clearly have put zero thought into.
As for me, I saved my life, lost 125 pounds, have kept it off for over a year and a half and am training for a half marathon. I have no regrets and would do it all over again. Why I needed to lose 125 pounds is a whole other story and I've taken care of that situation too.0 -
To do it without surgery you have to watch what you eat and exercise.
Or you can have invasive, often problematic surgery, after which you will still have to watch what you eat and exercise.
So personally, I've never understood the choice. But I guess that's just me.0 -
I know a few people who have had it done and about half have been successful at keeping it off. However, the amount of food eaten at a time is very limited plus they take mega doses of vitamins. My one friend has to spread her vitamins because her new "pouch" isn't big enough to handle all of them at a time. One of the unsuccessful ones did not gain her weight back by poor eating habits, she just could not stay away from the booze. She was so sick at first and now it is all back because of the drinking. How sad. It is also a big lifestyle change.0
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One of the best decisions I have ever made!
7 years and 150 lbs post op and I'm here counting my calories, exercising 4-5 days a week, benefiting from the MFP community and and training to run a marathon relay this June.
That said, is what you're doing hard work? I wouldn't say that I'm working harder or less harder than you.....we may be working equally as hard. It's not for everyone! That's the fantastic thing about personal choice. It was certainly the right choice for me.0 -
I know a few people who have had it done and about half have been successful at keeping it off. However, the amount of food eaten at a time is very limited plus they take mega doses of vitamins. My one friend has to spread her vitamins because her new "pouch" isn't big enough to handle all of them at a time. One of the unsuccessful ones did not gain her weight back by poor eating habits, she just could not stay away from the booze. She was so sick at first and now it is all back because of the drinking. How sad. It is also a big lifestyle change.
Your 50% statistic is about right. The "mega doses of vitamins" not as accurate. I take a daily multivitamin (something most ppl could realize benefit) and a tiny pink B12. Just had my annual visit to my physician and my labs are 100% perfect! I also enjoy a glass (or two) of wine occasionally. With everything, moderation is key.0 -
My opinion; it's a cop-out, an easier way out. No different than someone taking steroids to gain muscle. Not to mention the potential life altering complications of surgery even death.
Thanks for the uneducated, judgemental opinion. Those of us who have used surgery did not cop out of anything. I exercise and eat well and chose surgery to help with that journey. People--educated and smart people-- choose surgery to lose weight for reasons you clearly have put zero thought into.
As for me, I saved my life, lost 125 pounds, have kept it off for over a year and a half and am training for a half marathon. I have no regrets and would do it all over again. Why I needed to lose 125 pounds is a whole other story and I've taken care of that situation too.
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I dont think anyone has really answered the OP.........I have read through it all and I guess I still want to know......It seems like with surgery and non-surgery you have to monitor what you eat and work out........Then I ask again.......What is the added benefit of the surgery. For all of the people in here that have had it done what did the surgery do for you that you could not have physically done without the surgery. Not trying to offend just really trying to understand the reasons for taking this risk.0
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All the surgery does is change your digestive system. It doesn't change your head or how the body works. They still have to maintain a calorie deficit (and exercise) in order to lose weight.
At one point gastric bypass was the hot new thing. Now that some time has passed, we are getting a better picture of the results. Yes, people can and will lose a lot of weight fast. However, we are also seeing people gain back 100 or 200 lbs because they haven't resolved their food issues.
100% this ^^^^ I've had two friends have it done and neither has changed their eating habits. They eat what they've always eaten and just deal with the dumping syndrome.0 -
Friend of mine had a gastric band fitted. She lost a ton of weight very quickly. At first. It was very hard for her to keep solid food down, and she had an essentially liquid diet, sooo she started to eat icecream, etc, etc... the band eventually expands and she gained a lot. She also didn't learn a THING about discipline or self-control. On the NHS you have to prove that you really want to change your life by losing a certain amount of weight before the band is fitted. My friend had it done privately and is still struggling 4 years later. It certainly wasn't easy, but neither was it effective in the long term.0
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