Is having surgery to lose weight hard work?

I dont think anyone has really answered the OP.........I have read through it all and I guess I still want to know......It seems like with surgery and non-surgery you have to monitor what you eat and work out........Then I ask again.......What is the added benefit of the surgery. For all of the people in here that have had it done what did the surgery do for you that you could not have physically done without the surgery. Not trying to offend just really trying to understand the reasons for taking this risk.

Those that qualify for this surgery get to a point where “normal weight/activity” just seems out of reach. I felt like I was always on a diet and would lose 50-70lbs, but still be morbidly obese - talk about discouraging. I always told myself that if I could get to a “normal” weight, I could maintain the loss and stay healthy.

All people who are morbidly obese aren’t just fat and lazy and have no regard for what he/she is eating. Everyone has to deal with his/her own reasons, or triggers for getting to that point. It was my own responsibility for being at that point in my health, and finding the right solution to address the problem. The “added benefit for the surgery” is the restricted intake that you don’t have. By limiting the amount of food that someone can humanly consume (at least early on) the result will be weight loss. Simple as that. I don’t feel that physically or emotionally I could have ever lost 150 pounds on my own. The surgery provided the added benefit of restriction for me.

I think I adequately answered both of your questions. Thanks, for the opportunity.

My opinion; it's a cop-out, an easier way out. No different than someone taking steroids to gain muscle. Not to mention the potential life altering complications of surgery even death.

If you haven't walked a mile in someone's shoes..... You have no idea what you are talking about.

I agree! It is a personal, individual choice. Everyone has different medical conditions that may or may not merit needing this tool to help them. Skinny people who have never had weight issues look at overweight people and think we just eat too much and we are lazy. Aren't we doing the very same thing if we say bariatric surgery is a cop-out?

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For some people, gastric bypass or lap band isn't really a choice, it's a procedure that MUST be performed to save a life, just like a heart bypass or something similar. I personally haven't considered it yet, because I want to exhaust all options first, but I have known people with diabetes, high blood pressure, even severe arthritis in their knees who have had this surgery and been successful. Yes, it is hard. It requires the exact same mind-set and lifestyle changes that 'traditional' diets do, but this is typically a surgery for people who have tried all those and still can't lose. My friend's mother had such severe arthritis in her knees that the surgery was suggested to her by her doctor. She had never considered it, because she didn't want to be seen as lazy and not willing to do the work it took to get the weight off, but she had been trying to lose weight for years. Now, with the surgery, she is MUCH better off with a good bit of weight lost. She hasn't gained any back, and she isn't a rail, either. She chose to stop losing at a certain point, because she just wanted to get to a healthy weight that wasn't detrimental to her health. She pays strict attention to food and exercise, and it's becasue this surgery enabled her to do what she wasn't able to do without help before.

Those of you who say it's a cop out must not have ever been morbidly obese. It's a serious health issue, and though I'm currently choosing a different way, I support ANYONE who wants to lose weight for their health in any way they deem necessary.

Understand this:

A BMI of 40 will get you on the surgery table. Any lower and the risk is too great for the reward.

There is a studied MORTALITY rate of 0.5% within 6 months of surgery in 2005-2006. This means in every 1000 people who get the surgery, 5 are guaranteed to DIE. Or, 1 in 200. This may be less or more depending on the current medical research and post-op procedures. You *are* cutting into your body.

The long term rate of MORTALITY (basically due to continued morbid obesity) is REDUCED by 40% in patients who go through the procedure.

This is a last-step drastic measure. In medical school, all my professor tell me that surgery (esp the surgeons) is the last resort. When chemicals, physical therapy fails left and right, this is the LAST RESORT. So until you feel like you're there, DON'T go there.

I hope you don't use this as an excuse to pig out. If you do you have not learned anything.

I had LapBand surgery. I did well and lost 50 pounds. Then we went on vacation, and I ate junk food again. Two years after surgery, I haven't been able to lose any more weight (but MFP is helping!). I still have to diet, and sweets are my downfall. But here's the biggest advantage so far -- I can't REGAIN the weight. Even when I pig out, I can't eat that much, so I haven't regained any weight. Though my lack of getting to my goal is depressing, I think the LapBand is worth it. I'd be even more depressed if I had gained back that 50 pounds. It's a tool, not a crutch.

I have been trying to lose weight my whole life, and nothing has done it. I was desperate, and surgery was my only option. Anyone who has not walked in my shoes has no way of knowing what I've been through. Someone who says "If I can do it, anyone can" has just NO clue. Every body is different.

i've know a couple of people that done it and they did it to save their life...it's not easy. all your meds, foods and anything you need to digest has to be liquid for a while...big adjustment.

Yes, it's just a slightly different form of hard work. Surgery isn't an easy way out.

Yes, having surgery to lose weight is hard work IMO. I just had my Sleeve surgery a month ago and it has changed my life already. I have to think completely differently about food and amounts. I actually have to remember to eat! The part of stomach removed during sleeve surgery is the producer of Ghrelin, the hunger hormone. Now that it is gone I am rarely ever hungry and have NO cravings for anything.

I was 330 lbs when I started this journey. I looked and felt terrible. I actually KNOW how to lose weight, it's the maintenance that gets me. The Sleeve is great for both weight loss and maintenance. I've lost 100 lbs in the past and gained it plus another 60 back. I felt like I needed this surgery to save my life,

I've also found that most naysayers have no clue about what the surgery entails or what aftercare is like. It's fine to have an opinion but please educate yourself before you trash something!

she said it was her lack and ability to exercise threw no fault of her own do you know how to read!!!!!!!

I had VSG on march 28th, I feel the best now that I have had surgery, and now I'm preparing myself to return to work just 3 weeks out . I spent years thinking if I just watch what I eat and exercise more the weight will come off, that was not the case. I peaked at 374.8 lbs fine if your a pro football lineman and are 6'7" but on my 5'6" frame, not a good combo, it was to the point my knees and back were giving much more that occasional aches and pains. I fully recommend not only the VSG but I was required to diet 6 months before surgery. If your can stick with the 6 months program before then the next steps are I don't want to use the word easy, but it, it is. I am on a restricted diet of what I should eat as my stomach heals but it is all about protein, which is what you should be eating first regardless if you have had surgery or not. The mind set is the key you have to want to improve your health, I'm one of the " healthiest" people to go through our bariactric program, only because I got proactive to get ahead of the high blood pressure, diabetes, and heart problems that are coming if I didn't do anything. So get into a program that gives you plenty of information up front and ask questions, my wife and I have both had this surgery and are working forward to have a great long healthier life with our children, I just got back from a 2.25 mile walk that was not possible even two months ago. So you decide is it a cop-out .... I think not it is a tool to allow me to keep my health and enjoy my kids..

Everyones opinions are different. I had the VSG, Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy, done on December 19, 2011. It was painful the first few days, then the adjustment to the way of eating, the portion sizes and just getting the mindset, "when i eat, I need to eat protein items". Basically the same as when you are dieting but the new sleeve keeps the portions to a minimum. I had started with a goal of 74 lbs to lose, I am currently at a loss of 53 lbs and feeling great. It is a new way of life, a new way of thinking and a new way of eating. I myself would do it again and have had no major issues with my new sleeve. Some may say its the "easier" way, but then, they havent been in my shoes or know what its all about. Again, everyone has different opinions and mine is that if you have tried all the other options and/or have health issues, I fully recommend the VSG.

Exactly!!! I had the VSG 7-11-11. I've lost 64 lbs. It's still hard with surgery. Your body still has stalls. This is only a tool. And its the hardest thing I've ever done. But after all "diets" failed me, this was the last resort. I would do it again in a heart beat.

My opinion; it's a cop-out, an easier way out. No different than someone taking steroids to gain muscle. Not to mention the potential life altering complications of surgery even death.

The risk of death is definitely a cop out. I'm so glad you pointed that out (Please note my sarcasm button is turned on here.)

I had gastric bypass surgery in 97 and lost a125lbs. Most within the first 10-12months. Recovery was painful - but I've had more painful surgical recoveries. (Tummy tuck - OUCH!) The difficult part is adjusting to your new microscopic size belly. You WANT to eat (lets face it, most of us probably love food so having surgery doesn't take away that desire) but you CAN'T eat. So it can be very frustrating for a while. You learn really quickly to NOT overeat because if you do, you'll throw up. For the first month or so, I had to eat all soft mushy foods. Eventually you add normal things in to your diet.

I've had 2 babies since then and over the years have gained maybe about 15lbs back from my lowest weight. I never got super skinny (wasn't my goal to) but I was able to fit into size 12 and very happy with that. It worked for my frame. But now I'm trying to drop at least 25 lbs and it's a HUGE struggle. It's no easier at this point than it would be if I hadn't had the surgery. I'm able to eat normal amounts of food now....no longer eating child sized portions. It's just that your body digests it differently, having had your insides rearranged.

So is it easy to loose weight with weight loss surgery? Yes and no. The first 6 months are difficult b/c you're adjusting to so much. But you do drop a ton of weight. But later down the road, if you're not careful you can gain weight back and loosing can be just as hard. I have no regrets at all about my surgery.

I know several people who have had lap-band or bypass surgery and they say they have to work just as hard as someone who is changing their dieting habits and working out. Is this true? I am not saying that they don't but just wondering the point of the surgery?

I had vertical sleeve surgery last August, which is a different surgery than the two you mention above. It involves removing 80 percent of my stomach. While I was healing from my surgery, I was on a liquid diet for about a month and then mushies (soft foods) for another couple of weeks.

In the weeks before and after the surgery, I attended nutritional classes and spent time with a personal trainer. I learned how to eat right, and I learned about foods I had never even heard of before (protein shakes!). These classes helped me learn what I needed to know about nutrition and exercise. I had to re-evaluate and change my entire diet.

In addition to the changes in my diet, I began working out regularly. I now log everything I eat, how much I drink and the exercise I get. I had to change the way I eat, and I had to exercise more. The smaller stomach lets me feel satisfied with smaller amounts of food, which makes me more likely to stick to a reduced calorie diet. The six weeks it took me to recover -- when my diet was mostly liquid protein -- allowed me to have time to shift my way of thinking about my diet and exercise.

I am doing the same diet and exercise changes that others do. The weight doesn't just melt off.

Why did I do surgery? Losing weight is not just a matter of calories in/calories out. You can have a 3500 calorie deficit in your diet and NOT lose a pound of weight. There are other factors that go into losing weight, and genetics plays a big part of it. I was noticing that I was not losing weight despite efforts to do so. The surgery and the initial weight loss that accompanied it (25 pounds in the first month), helped me become successful with my weight loss. My second month, the weight loss wasn't as significant, but it was still a loss. Right now, I'm in a stall. I am eating right and exercising well, and I'm not seeing changes in weight on the scale, however, I am seeing changes in my body composition (more muscle and loss of inches overall).

There are studies out there that explain why obese people are less likely to maintain a weight loss. A recent article in The New York Times described it this way, "A full year after significant weight loss, these men and women remained in what could be described as a biologically altered state. Their still-plump bodies were acting as if they were starving and were working overtime to regain the pounds they lost. For instance, a gastric hormone called ghrelin, often dubbed the “hunger hormone,” was about 20 percent higher than at the start of the study."

My surgery removed the portion of my stomach that produces ghrelin, so I don't feel hunger. It means I can be satisfied when eating smaller portions. That isn't to say my body doesn't produce any ghrelin, but I don't get this increase that the study reports happens.

The link to the complete article I quote above is http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/magazine/tara-parker-pope-fat-trap.html?pagewanted=all