Can you burn 1200+ calories on an Elliptical machine..
KickassAugust
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..in half an hour? Is this possible?
Today I went for:
30 mins
@ 450 watts 26.2 mets
I'm 203 lbs
& the Elliptical said I burned 1278 calories...
Again, is this possible or is my machine whack?
Today I went for:
30 mins
@ 450 watts 26.2 mets
I'm 203 lbs
& the Elliptical said I burned 1278 calories...
Again, is this possible or is my machine whack?
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The only way you can really get an idea of what you burned is via your heart rate.
I find that some of the things in the database here are close to accurate and others are not.
I use calculators on other sites and input some heart rate info (I have a HRM, although it doesn't tell me how many calories I have burned. I have to keep track of the HR and put it in, myself). I also calculate how much I would have burned if I'd spent that time sitting in front of the computer and subtract that from the total. When my exercise is in the form of an all-day hike, that can make a difference of hundreds of calories. It's not such a major factor for a 30-minute run.0 -
You would have to weigh A LOT and go very, very, very fast at a very high level. I don't think anyone with the body mass to do it would be able to use an elliptical.
For an idea, I'm 150 pounds. If I work out in intervals and use a VERY high level and go hard, I can burn about 300 calories in 30 minutes (based on a heart rate monitor with chest strap).0 -
No. Maybe in 2 hours.0
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So I vote for my machine is whack..! Thanks guys.. :bigsmile:0
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You'd have to really go hard for a long time. A lot more than 30 minutes.
I do the elliptical all the time and MFP WAY overestimates the number of calories burned. I wear an HRM, and the amount it tells me that I'm burning is 1/3 or less of what MFP says, and about half of what the machine says. So while I enter my minutes on MFP, if I ate back the amount of exercise calories it says, I'd gain a couple of pounds a week!0 -
You'd have to really go hard for a long time. A lot more than 30 minutes.
I do the elliptical all the time and MFP WAY overestimates the number of calories burned. I wear an HRM, and the amount it tells me that I'm burning is 1/3 or less of what MFP says, and about half of what the machine says. So while I enter my minutes on MFP, if I ate back the amount of exercise calories it says, I'd gain a couple of pounds a week!
THIS IS VALUBLE INFO AS I WILL TRY TO REMEMBER NOT TO EAT BACK CALORIES-THANK YOU0 -
Interesting. With my HRM, MFP's estimate is usually very close for the elliptical. MFP assumes a certain level of effort for the machine, I guess. If you go below that, your calories are going to be different.0
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I vote for "don't trust the machine".
If I run on a treadmill for 1/2 hour near the upper end of my aerobic capacity (around 155 bpm) I burn 600ish calories per my Polar FT4. I weigh 235. I doubt you can burn double that on an elliptical in the same period of time.0 -
So if I can't believe the silly machine and I can't believe MFP.. what the heck?
MFP said I burned 400 something in the same 30 mins!0 -
MFP said I burned 400 something in the same 30 mins!
400 is a much closer estimate than 1200, but it all depends on how hard you were working and your fitness level. (and therein lies the problem with "eating exercise calories"...without an accurate way to measure them, you could be eating away your entire deficit).0 -
..in half an hour? Is this possible?
Today I went for:
30 mins
@ 450 watts 26.2 mets
I'm 203 lbs
& the Elliptical said I burned 1278 calories...
Again, is this possible or is my machine whack?
Only if you set yourself on fire.
Pro cyclists have to work their butts off to avg 450 watts for 30 min.
Can't explain why you got such wacky numbers, but they are indeed whacky numbers.0 -
I find MFP and my machine are inline.....an estimate of 250 Calories for a 20 minute workout that has a variety of tensions built in.0
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So if I can't believe the silly machine and I can't believe MFP.. what the heck?
MFP said I burned 400 something in the same 30 mins!
That is why I try to only eat back about 1/2 of my exercise calories. It seems to have worked so far!0 -
Are you sure it wasn't revolutions/distance rather than calories?0
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So if I can't believe the silly machine and I can't believe MFP.. what the heck?
MFP said I burned 400 something in the same 30 mins!
That may be accurate. At my weight, I can burn 300 in 30.0 -
10 calories a minute is a safe estimate if you're working hard. I burn, through much testing with HRMs, VO2 rates etc etc.... about 740 cals in an hour on my machine. That being said, to give you an example of how much I'm sweating, my weight is typically 4 lbs less after my workout than right before it. That's LOTS of water I'm wringing out of my clothes afterwards...every piece from the socks on up are completely drenched like I took a bath in my clothes.
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I was so disappointed the first time I wore my HRM on the elliptical.
30 minutes the machine said 350. I was working hard, thought that sounded fair. HRM said only 150 :sad:0 -
It takes me about 70-75 minutes to burn that on the elliptical, even when I weighed 270 and I go hard at it.0
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My elliptical came with a HRM and I go by what the machine tells me. Now my machine is a pretty high end model and it's my freakin new best friend, so I do trust it. Mfp overestimates the number of calories for me by about 75 cals, but in the beginning it was over 100. All that being said, if you are at 26 mets.... Wow! I can't get over 11 mets and I push myself! So if you are really at 26 mets, then at your weight it's probably a very very good burn, and way more than 400 cals0
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Sooooo glad that I found this!
I decided to wear my HRM at the gym for the first time since I started going back a month ago.
I am 205lbs, my workout was week 4 day 3 of C25K (which I was all over the place on MPH during the running portion but basically all in between 4.8 to 5.6 and at 4.0 for walking) and then I did 40 minutes of upper body weights, 8 different exercises.
My HRM says I burned 1238 calories and then MFP says 584.
When I was on the treadmill during walking, I did bring it down to 3.9 a couple of times(because the machine will not go into HRM mode at 4mph or more) and used the HRM on the machine to see if it was the same as what was showing on my HRM and the numbers were exactly the same.0 -
Sooooo glad that I found this!
I decided to wear my HRM at the gym for the first time since I started going back a month ago.
I am 205lbs, my workout was week 4 day 3 of C25K (which I was all over the place on MPH during the running portion but basically all in between 4.8 to 5.6 and at 4.0 for walking) and then I did 40 minutes of upper body weights, 8 different exercises.
My HRM says I burned 1238 calories and then MFP says 584.
When I was on the treadmill during walking, I did bring it down to 3.9 a couple of times(because the machine will not go into HRM mode at 4mph or more) and used the HRM on the machine to see if it was the same as what was showing on my HRM and the numbers were exactly the same.
The problem is that you continued to use the HRM during your weight training. Even though your HR might stay elevated during strength training, you are not burning the same extra calories you do running (don't have time to explain why--you'll have to trust me on this). So your number is significantly inflated.
I don't know if the MFP number is any better, since I don't know how you logged the workout. As a rule, MFP is going to struggle with interval type workouts because the intensity is changing. I will say that the MFP number is a LOT closer to reality than your HRM in this particular case.0 -
when i was 240 i was burning about 10 calories a min on the elliptical! go with MFP!0
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The elliptical at my gym keeps track of your heart rate... there's a HRM on it... sooo... I think I'm good? If I'm not, please correct me. I don't want to think differently and be wrong in how much calories I've burned all this time...
And I find that the MFP elliptical measurement is weird... wouldn't it be hard to gauge how much calories you burned if you don't know the speed you ran at the whole time? And yes, I know that elliptical speeds change pretty often depending on your consistency and such through the workout. Another reason why I don't use MFP... Time can't be the only way to measure... I would only trust the actual machine or a gear you wear to record the calories you've burned... not this site.0 -
I think I get it with the wearing it during weights. I guess it is a *duh* moment there.
I did go with the MFP estimate just because I thought it was a heck of a lot closer to reality. LOL But we will see how it goes tomorrow when I do cardio!0 -
I do 35 minutes on it and five is cool down I burn a little over 300 calories so it does average about ten a minute. When I had one at home it was about the same.0
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I don't know if that is possible in 30 minutes. You would have to have the resistance level very high and go very fast. We own a gym and I burn about 440 in 40 minutes at a flucuation of resistance between 25 and 30 and that is with my weight entered into the machine. I think the only true way to know is to wear a heart rate monitor. ON MFP I think they rate a lot of the activities high in calories. Not sure though, just my opinion.0
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So if I can't believe the silly machine and I can't believe MFP.. what the heck?
MFP said I burned 400 something in the same 30 mins!
Your best bet is to get a heart rate monitor which will be tailored to your age, size, weight and of course heart rate. One person doing 30 mins on the elliptical can be worlds different than someone else based on a number of factors. MFP is generally close-ish, but without a HRM you need to take MFP and exercise machines with a grain of salt.0 -
I was so disappointed the first time I wore my HRM on the elliptical.
30 minutes the machine said 350. I was working hard, thought that sounded fair. HRM said only 150 :sad:
I've been there!!!
I had a previous HRM that did not show cal burn so I used the online calculator. I was absolutely horrified when I bought a new HRM which gave me the cal burn info of abt 30-40% less than what the online calculator gave me.0 -
I'll put an hour on the elliptical and it will read anywhere from 1100-1250 for calories burned, I go with my HRM at around 450-500.0
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The elliptical at my gym keeps track of your heart rate... there's a HRM on it... sooo... I think I'm good? If I'm not, please correct me. I don't want to think differently and be wrong in how much calories I've burned all this time...
And I find that the MFP elliptical measurement is weird... wouldn't it be hard to gauge how much calories you burned if you don't know the speed you ran at the whole time? And yes, I know that elliptical speeds change pretty often depending on your consistency and such through the workout. Another reason why I don't use MFP... Time can't be the only way to measure... I would only trust the actual machine or a gear you wear to record the calories you've burned... not this site.
Unfortunately, with very few exceptions, elliptical cross trainers have unreliable calorie readouts. The fact that the cross trainer has a heart rate readout means nothing--the heart rate display is completely separate from the calorie display.
If you can measure the actual workload of a machine, then heart rate is irrelevant. That's why the machine doesn't require heart rate interaction to estimate calories. That works fine on treadmills and some bikes. However, with cross trainers/ellipticals, there is no standard movement--every brand and often every model within a brand has a different movement. Therefore, there is no common, accurate equation that can be used for all machines --like there is for treadmill and bikes. The only way for a manufacturer to accurately estimate calories burned on an elliptical is to do oxygen uptake validation studies on the equipment and develop their own machine-specific algorithms. That's not easy and it's not cheap. Most manufacturers do not have the resources to do it, nor the desire. It is easier to just copy a calculation from something else and apply it to the cross trainer--who's going to really know? There are only one or two cross trainer models out there that I know give reliable calorie readouts--more accurate than an HRM. But while they come from a big manufacturer, they are not commonly found in most health clubs.
MFP is even worse in that it is using rough averages from a bunch of different machines. So while I often urge that people not place too much faith in HRM calorie readouts, a better-grade model like a Polar, properly set up, is probably going to give the best estimates on most elliptical cross trainers.0
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