am i cheating by counting cooking and cleaning as cardio?
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It depends on how long and how vigorous the activity is. If you work up a sweat and your heart rate has increased for so many beats per second, by all means, count it as cardio.0
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I know from experience that just counting ANYTHING helps keep up motivation. If I stopped counting - i would lose all track and then just give up.
I think its fine to count cooking/cleaning as cardio - just not too much! its not the same as running a mile - but you are definitely moving! Maybe make it fun (and more cardio) by dancing while cooking and cleaning!
Just don't lose motivation and if counting is what helps you do that the GO FOR IT!!
Good Luck!!
Please, please, please, explain to me how cooking or cleaning is the same as running a mile?0 -
I count it only if it is different than what I do on a daily basis...I have my settings as sedentary so it is not already calculated in that part but I don't count it if all I did that day was a sink of dishes & a load of laundry but if I scrub the house for more than 30 minutes of constant movement then I count it for sure....As long as you aren't counting it twice b/c your settings are set to active....I think that is just fine. HTH!0
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If I break a sweat, I count it!:bigsmile:0
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The bigger question would be how has logging cooking and cleaning as cardio and it being your only form of exercise been helping your weight loss? if it's helping your weightloss than continue to do it. If not, than you should probably think of putting something else into your routine.0
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Just my opinion, but I wouldn't count it. Even a sedentary lifestyle assumes you are doing some moving around during the day, so a lot of basic activities are counted. Unless you are really exerting and getting your heartrate raised, you are probably double counting.
I also always want to err on the side of underestimating calories burned and overestimating calories eaten. I'm sure I make enough mistakes along the way that I want to build in a little buffer, and not assume I can eat more.
Of course, the best way to tell is to try it. If you appear to be hitting your goals but not seeing the corresponding weight loss, it may be because you are double counting and not really burning as many calories as you think you are.0 -
If you have to ask it's probably cheating
Ding.0 -
You cook and clean in your normal everyday life. In my opinion, cooking and cleaning doesn't count. Especially if you're eating back your exercise cals.
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I don't know if I'd call it "cheating," but this is what I do know. I used to count every little thing I did as exercise calories, and eventually my weight loss slowed to a crawl. When I stopped doing this, started counting ONLY intentional exercise calories and made sure my HRM wasn't overestimating my calorie burns, I immediately started losing weight again. I don't know if that's the answer for you, but it definitely was the answer for me. :ohwell:0
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I know from experience that just counting ANYTHING helps keep up motivation. If I stopped counting - i would lose all track and then just give up.
I think its fine to count cooking/cleaning as cardio - just not too much! its not the same as running a mile - but you are definitely moving! Maybe make it fun (and more cardio) by dancing while cooking and cleaning!
Just don't lose motivation and if counting is what helps you do that the GO FOR IT!!
Good Luck!!
Please, please, please, explain to me how cooking or cleaning is the same as running a mile?
This person put - It is NOT the same as running a mile....I just wanted to point that out.0 -
If you're losing weight and it's working for you = no. If you're not making any progress and don't know why = I'd start there.0
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What type of cooking are you doing that's burning enough calories to log?0
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On days I do regular pick up around my house, playing with the babies, and mild things, I log it under cleaning moderate effort. On days I sweep and mop 2 levels, 6 peoples laundry, scrubbing bathtubs, and running around with the kids... etc, I log as exercise with heavy vigorous effort. The way I look at it, If I am not just sitting on my butt on the couch than I am up doing "exercise" that my body is burning calories for... so log it0
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You say it's helping to keep you motivated, but if you feel like you're "cheating," then it's not really a positive thing in the end. I would count things like intensive spring cleaning, hand-scrubbing all of the floors or cleaning out the basement, but not day-to-day activities like cooking and doing dishes.0
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I only add it in if I am deep cleaning or cleaning for longer than 45 minutes. I also wear my hrm and if I don't keep my heart rate well above normal, I don't add it in. If it helped me lose a little, I will consider that a bonus. I guess if I feel like I am doing a dance class while am cleaning then it's worth it... I usually don't eat back calories from cleaning unless I truly worked hard.0
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I've seen this topic a LOT on here, and posted a thread on it several months back...Because cleaning is something that's done on ar regular basis, I don't think it really counts. However, if you do everything double-time, go up and down the stairs TWICE whenever you have to use them, do squats while folding laundry. Bunny hops and jumping squats while moving around the house tidying up...when I put this theory to use with my HRM, I burnt 338 calories in 40(ish) minutes.0
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I count it depending on my activity level. I have two kids and a sloppy husband (weekends for him) and I clean up a lot after them. Normal day to day stuff I don't count. I however did a lot of extra cleaning today and Sunday's I always have a lot of cleaning time due to the fact that I didn't clean over Saturday. On the days I clean for 4 hours.. I only count an hour of it.0
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Any activity I do outside of an actual structured workout I consider a part of a slightly more active lifestyle. Even still, I consider my activity level to be sedentary.
I find that people tend to overestimate those exercise calories and underestimate how many food calories they're taking in. It's very easy to do. So no, I don't count those kinds of activities at all.0 -
I log cleaning if I am giving the house a good clean (washing the dishes/loading the washing machine in my book does not count), and I log cooking if I have done alot for example I often make jams/chutneys that sort of thing and can be on my feet in the kitchen for 3-4 hours, I am tired at the end of it so I must have used calories.
However I log cautiously - if I do 2 hours cleaning I would only log 1 hour of light cleaning as I do not want to risk over logging calories.0 -
Knock yourself out if you aren't eating back your "cals burned"...but I suspect you are, so:
MFP takes your normal daily activity into account. So since cooking and cleaning are daily acitivity you should NOT be counting it because you are not doing something above and beyond your normal routine. Besides, you should always err on the conservative side.
My rule of thumb: if I don't have to put on my work out clothes for it, IT DOESN'T COUNT.
If you want to be accurate, get a Hear Rate Monitor. Average estimators are crap anyway and tend to over estimate your burns.
The only person you are cheating is yourself.
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no work out clothes = no count. I don't even log if I do a 'big clean'. I don't consider this a form of exercise.0 -
It all depends on the lifestyle level you set when you set up your MFP profile. I know what you mean though. I have a back injury and have been doing some light aerobic exercise, but have tweaked my back so right now I can't do any aerobics. I haven't been logging any house work, etc. The reason why is; I don't want to just log calories so I can have extra food each day when it's not really enough to make a difference. If it makes you feel better to log stuff, just remember, low level tasks like light housework doesn't burn many calories at all. I think some people over estimate when they look into the MFP database of exercise. Remember, most of those activities are entered in by members (I believe), so they are probably up for debate. Just hang in there; sometimes it goes a little slow, but hopefully you have chosen MFP because it represents a new lifestyle, not just a quick fix for symptoms of being overweight. It will happen. Good luck!
Edit: One thing to remember when logging exercise calories. If you over estimate, the only person it will hurt is yourself. It doesn't matter what anyone says pro or con about logging house work, you are the only one it affects. That's why I don't log light housework. I don't want to be disappointed when I don't lose any weight after eating back a bunch of calories I was just kidding myself about.0 -
For me it would be a fine line between motivation...and rationalization. Like trying to finesse the numbers to make myself feel better. In the end I'm only cheating myself by creating scenarios that make it look better on paper (or the screen in this case)
I agree with a couple of the folks here on a few of points.
Firslty, when I joined I set up my profile to "Lightly Active" because I am a nurse and on my feet for 12 hours at a time--basically running around for 12 hours. I had to acknowledge it's only partially accurate. I don't work 7 days a week. So if I'm cleaning my house and running around doing errands and cleaning I figure it's filling the role of being "Lightly Active". The calories for the day are set for that level of activity.
To try and account for the ADL's (Activities of Daily Living) to me feels like I'd be missing the big picture.
Secondly. If you have to ask you already know the answer.
Thirdly. Cardiovascular Exercise is defined as an increase in heart rate for a period of time (the % increase is up for interpretation based on the kind of goals you have)
http://www.livestrong.com/article/416934-what-is-considered-cardio-exercise/
The head games I play with myself are the most damaging to myself--and almost like self-sabotage. I have to be really honest with myself and really monitor my inner dialogue.
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The only reason I can see to add cooking+cleaning as "cardio" would be if you're desperate for some "bonus points" because you're not putting in enough effort overall.0
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My opinion is that it is cheating. I think of exercise is anything that makes you breath heavier than you do naturally. Everything else is just part of your day. I believe that you should stick to your calorie goal, period. Anything that you do exercise wise is a bonus and that will be how you lose weight.
If you up your calories everytime you move your arm then you will never be in a calorie deficite, therefore you will not lose weight.
When your heart rate in increased and you are breathing heavy...write that down. Otherwise leave it off and eat clean.0 -
I think if you are honest about the calories burned you should count it. Obviously you can't count that as intense exercise. Actually your question reminds me that I should counting my calories burned at work and here at home also, not just the gym.0
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What do you have your daily activity set at?0
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I wouldn't count it unless you're running back and forth between rooms.
If you have a Fitbit, cleaning and cooking would probably register as some kind of activity. But when people talk about "cardio," they usually mean intense, uninterrupted exercise.0 -
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Is it working? Are you losing weight at the rate you're supposed to? Then it's not cheating.0
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I dont count anything as exercise if its part of my normal routine. Now if you go on a 5 hour cleaning spree or 8 hour cooking spree then I think that is ok but ultimately its up to you.0
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