Dr OZ
miami_mimi
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just caught Dr. Oz for the first time... anyone follow him? is he legit or full of BS???
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just caught Dr. Oz for the first time... anyone follow him? is he legit or full of BS???
Generally speaking his supplement and dietary advice is full of BS and additionally, he will often peddle a supplement claiming that it induces fat loss when it doesn't. Then, people will get on MFP and make posts about that supplement and often times people will buy the supplement and end up wasting time and money on another failed gimmick.
In short, he's an entertainer and while people may enjoy watching him, I would generally steer very clear from his dietary info.
EDIT: Inb4 someone comes in here defending him because he's "A Doctor!" and thus he must know more than I do.0 -
Quack - he has sold out. He will peddle anything now it seems.0
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@Sidesteal, he has a show today an appetite suppressants. Just seems too good to be true. I just have fallen for this type of fads in the past, and they simply do not last.. temporary solutions0
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just caught Dr. Oz for the first time... anyone follow him? is he legit or full of BS???
Generally speaking his supplement and dietary advice is full of BS and additionally, he will often peddle a supplement claiming that it induces fat loss when it doesn't. Then, people will get on MFP and make posts about that supplement and often times people will buy the supplement and end up wasting time and money on another failed gimmick.
In short, he's an entertainer and while people may enjoy watching him, I would generally steer very clear from his dietary info.
^ This. He is definitely an ENTERTAINER, and talks up the products that he is paid to talk up. Also, it's a different product every couple of weeks- whatever is "trendy" at the time. If you just do your own research and use common sense, you should be able to make good decisions regarding fitness and nutrition "products."0 -
I am sure he's a good doctor when he's not on TV, but on TV he's nothing more than a talking head quacking away.0 -
I agree, he is a quack at this point. Very much an alarmist too - my opinion. Reminds me of someone like Dr. Phil, in it for the money, entertainment, ratings, etc.
I have watched him a few times. Didn't he go all crazy recently about arsenic and apple sauce or apple juice and really it was just an alarmist piece of 'news' not backed by much facts or information? Correct me if I am wrong.0 -
just caught Dr. Oz for the first time... anyone follow him? is he legit or full of BS???
Generally speaking his supplement and dietary advice is full of BS and additionally, he will often peddle a supplement claiming that it induces fat loss when it doesn't. Then, people will get on MFP and make posts about that supplement and often times people will buy the supplement and end up wasting time and money on another failed gimmick.
In short, he's an entertainer and while people may enjoy watching him, I would generally steer very clear from his dietary info.
^ This. He is definitely an ENTERTAINER, and talks up the products that he is paid to talk up. Also, it's a different product every couple of weeks- whatever is "trendy" at the time. If you just do your own research and use common sense, you should be able to make good decisions regarding fitness and nutrition "products."
AGREED! I have been doing so much better since I started eating cleaner and leaner. I do believe in supplements just don't like the whole lose 5lbs in 5 days ads... it just seems like fluff to me0 -
when he wasn't on tv all the time, he had some good information, and was entertaining when telling you about it. since hes become sort of a sell out. show biz claims another victim.0
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He does tout some stuff that is true, but I lost all confidince in/respect for him when he said htc actually works! Hawking stuff always makes me suspicious... which is why I tend to ignore stuff from mercola as well unless I can find documentation elsewhere.0
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I don't watch him on a regular basis but I think he has some good advice. There are times when I do think he goes to the extreme but all in all he has my vote.0
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Here's the thing- for the most part, the correct choices to make to lose weight and live a healthier life are neither interesting nor do they change all that often. Occasionally there's a product or a study that presents new information worth discussing, and lots of myths worth debunking. But that does not make for daily TV. He would be saying the same thing day in and day out!
The fact that his show exists with its format is proof that he's full of a lot of BS.0 -
I like his show because, although he is totally an entertainer, he DOES provide some interesting facts. I don't take anything he says for gospel, but sometimes he has really interesting guests and topics to discuss. I'm a believer in a holistic approach, and he is pretty dedicated to addressing the psychological and emotional aspects of health and doesn't shy away from exploring the validity of non-traditional methods for seeking better health.
I say, take from it what you will. Just like with any "diet" or fad.0 -
@Sidesteal, he has a show today an appetite suppressants. Just seems too good to be true. I just have fallen for this type of fads in the past, and they simply do not last.. temporary solutions
If you like the idea of supressing your appetite I would suggest that you do so via food choice. For example, you may wish to look at ways to increase the volume of food you eat and/or be more mindful of satiety when choosing individual food items.
For purposes of example I will list a dish that I eat often when I'm restricting calories:
Tilapia (12oz to a full pound) fillets pan fried (not-breaded) in 1 pat of butter, with a whole yellow onion, 1 glove of garlic.
3 to 4 servings of broccoli or green beans (steamed)
A large bowl of spinach leaves topped with a whole cucumber, 2 oz of turkey breast, 2 tbsp of light italian dressing (in a gigantic serving bowl designed for a family).
That meal that I just listed is large enough that the average MFP user (not referring to most bodybuilders here) can't even eat it. It's too much food. We're talking about a pound of fish, a MASSIVE bowl of steamed vegetables (seasoned typically), and a gigantic salad. Not to mention I'm putting a big dent in my protein requirements for the day.
The amount of food I just listed is all low calorie items. I can literally stuff the hole in my face with all of that food, burp, smile, and go lay on the couch, and giggle as I still have tons of calories left over for later.
I'm posting this just as an example. If I were to have chosen a cheeseburger and fries instead of the above meal, I'd run out of calories faster, I'd be less satisfied in terms of fullness, and I'd not contribute to my protein macro as fast.
This doesn't mean "avoid junk food", just to be clear on that. I'm just illustrating a strategy that you can consider when choosing food, so that you remain full on less calories, allowing you to eat for volume.0 -
I really used to enjoy watching and I still do. I just no longer take his word as proof. He is entertaining, but we'd all go broke if we used every food item, exercise program or supplement that he "advertises". I agree with previous posters about his entertainment value and the variety of guests and topics and that he delves into non-traditional science somewhat. Just do your research!0
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just caught Dr. Oz for the first time... anyone follow him? is he legit or full of BS???
Generally speaking his supplement and dietary advice is full of BS and additionally, he will often peddle a supplement claiming that it induces fat loss when it doesn't. Then, people will get on MFP and make posts about that supplement and often times people will buy the supplement and end up wasting time and money on another failed gimmick.
In short, he's an entertainer and while people may enjoy watching him, I would generally steer very clear from his dietary info.
EDIT: Inb4 someone comes in here defending him because he's "A Doctor!" and thus he must know more than I do.
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Seems like every time I hear him on TV he has these "magic weight loss" secrets! I mean come on, how many weight loss secrets can there be?? LOL!
I personally think he's full of it! And the sad thing is, people fall for what he say's!0 -
I used to think he was the real thing, but over time he seemed to change to a commercial monger. JMO0
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@Sidesteal, he has a show today an appetite suppressants. Just seems too good to be true. I just have fallen for this type of fads in the past, and they simply do not last.. temporary solutions
If you like the idea of supressing your appetite I would suggest that you do so via food choice. For example, you may wish to look at ways to increase the volume of food you eat and/or be more mindful of satiety when choosing individual food items.
For purposes of example I will list a dish that I eat often when I'm restricting calories:
Tilapia (12oz to a full pound) fillets pan fried (not-breaded) in 1 pat of butter, with a whole yellow onion, 1 glove of garlic.
3 to 4 servings of broccoli or green beans (steamed)
A large bowl of spinach leaves topped with a whole cucumber, 2 oz of turkey breast, 2 tbsp of light italian dressing (in a gigantic serving bowl designed for a family).
That meal that I just listed is large enough that the average MFP user (not referring to most bodybuilders here) can't even eat it. It's too much food. We're talking about a pound of fish, a MASSIVE bowl of steamed vegetables (seasoned typically), and a gigantic salad. Not to mention I'm putting a big dent in my protein requirements for the day.
The amount of food I just listed is all low calorie items. I can literally stuff the hole in my face with all of that food, burp, smile, and go lay on the couch, and giggle as I still have tons of calories left over for later.
I'm posting this just as an example. If I were to have chosen a cheeseburger and fries instead of the above meal, I'd run out of calories faster, I'd be less satisfied in terms of fullness, and I'd not contribute to my protein macro as fast.
This doesn't mean "avoid junk food", just to be clear on that. I'm just illustrating a strategy that you can consider when choosing food, so that you remain full on less calories, allowing you to eat for volume.
One of my nutrition professors wrote a book on this called Volumetric Eating (that's the name of the concept, I'm not sure of the name of the book) by Barbara Rolls0 -
If you want to read a good Dr. OZ book (before he became a sell-out) read "You on a Diet". Its actually chock full of good information. I would say that it seems like he has become a peddler more than a Doctor.0
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Actually speaking from a medical stand point most of the supplements that he does mention does have some holistic value to them its just they are just not apporiate for everyone. Because there or some medical teaching professions that do believe in a holistic approach and the reason most individuals find it to be far out there is because its not a general practice.
Dr. Oz show is a bit out there but compared to the othe shows likes his, I would say as a medical professional, he does provide more valid information than the rest even though most of it is for ratings.
LIke most things in this world I say take it with a grain of salt and do your on research meaning, don't just google something, actually go to a peer veiwed search engine like Medline and PubMed. You can find medically based journals or articles on any information and really find out the value of those supplements.0 -
@Sidesteal, he has a show today an appetite suppressants. Just seems too good to be true. I just have fallen for this type of fads in the past, and they simply do not last.. temporary solutions
If you like the idea of supressing your appetite I would suggest that you do so via food choice. For example, you may wish to look at ways to increase the volume of food you eat and/or be more mindful of satiety when choosing individual food items.
For purposes of example I will list a dish that I eat often when I'm restricting calories:
Tilapia (12oz to a full pound) fillets pan fried (not-breaded) in 1 pat of butter, with a whole yellow onion, 1 glove of garlic.
3 to 4 servings of broccoli or green beans (steamed)
A large bowl of spinach leaves topped with a whole cucumber, 2 oz of turkey breast, 2 tbsp of light italian dressing (in a gigantic serving bowl designed for a family).
That meal that I just listed is large enough that the average MFP user (not referring to most bodybuilders here) can't even eat it. It's too much food. We're talking about a pound of fish, a MASSIVE bowl of steamed vegetables (seasoned typically), and a gigantic salad. Not to mention I'm putting a big dent in my protein requirements for the day.
The amount of food I just listed is all low calorie items. I can literally stuff the hole in my face with all of that food, burp, smile, and go lay on the couch, and giggle as I still have tons of calories left over for later.
I'm posting this just as an example. If I were to have chosen a cheeseburger and fries instead of the above meal, I'd run out of calories faster, I'd be less satisfied in terms of fullness, and I'd not contribute to my protein macro as fast.
This doesn't mean "avoid junk food", just to be clear on that. I'm just illustrating a strategy that you can consider when choosing food, so that you remain full on less calories, allowing you to eat for volume.
3 eggwhites and 1 egg = 125 calories
3 whole eggs = 221 calories
1 salmon fillet (5 oz, 171 g) = 140 calories
roast beef ( 5oz, 170 g) = 200 calories
1 cup mashed potates = 135 calories
1 cup steamed veggies (carrots, cauli, broc) =45 calories
not saying any of theses foods are not good, I'll just switch up whats on my plate so I can have more food with less calories.0 -
actually go to a peer veiwed search engine like Medline and PubMed. You can find medically based journals or articles on any information and really find out the value of those supplements.
Agreed with this part, and I have done so with some of the supplements he offers and that's exactly why I've concluded that he is full of turds.0 -
I can't watch him anymore since his episode about Cancer where he said everyone has it but not everyone shows signs because it gets fought off.
I know that very well might be true in our world today but... I find him to be a scare-mongerer.0 -
Dr. Oz pretty much has zero credibility on his show. Now, I don't believe that Dr. Oz, the doctor, has no knowledge or information, but he's pretty much turned his show into an informercial for the "fat burning gimmick of the week."
When he makes guest appearances on other shows, and speaks more toward his expertise (he IS a cardiologist, after all, not a dietician,) he comes across as much more knowledgeable and "legit." Personally, if I had to choose, I would take advice from his daughter on The Chew than from him on his show, any day. Probably because it's mainly a cooking show, but at least she sticks to talking about food for better health, rather than just popping pills.0 -
@Sidesteal, he has a show today an appetite suppressants. Just seems too good to be true. I just have fallen for this type of fads in the past, and they simply do not last.. temporary solutions
If you like the idea of supressing your appetite I would suggest that you do so via food choice. For example, you may wish to look at ways to increase the volume of food you eat and/or be more mindful of satiety when choosing individual food items.
For purposes of example I will list a dish that I eat often when I'm restricting calories:
Tilapia (12oz to a full pound) fillets pan fried (not-breaded) in 1 pat of butter, with a whole yellow onion, 1 glove of garlic.
3 to 4 servings of broccoli or green beans (steamed)
A large bowl of spinach leaves topped with a whole cucumber, 2 oz of turkey breast, 2 tbsp of light italian dressing (in a gigantic serving bowl designed for a family).
That meal that I just listed is large enough that the average MFP user (not referring to most bodybuilders here) can't even eat it. It's too much food. We're talking about a pound of fish, a MASSIVE bowl of steamed vegetables (seasoned typically), and a gigantic salad. Not to mention I'm putting a big dent in my protein requirements for the day.
The amount of food I just listed is all low calorie items. I can literally stuff the hole in my face with all of that food, burp, smile, and go lay on the couch, and giggle as I still have tons of calories left over for later.
I'm posting this just as an example. If I were to have chosen a cheeseburger and fries instead of the above meal, I'd run out of calories faster, I'd be less satisfied in terms of fullness, and I'd not contribute to my protein macro as fast.
This doesn't mean "avoid junk food", just to be clear on that. I'm just illustrating a strategy that you can consider when choosing food, so that you remain full on less calories, allowing you to eat for volume.
Completely agreed! I have definitely made major improvements since eating healthier.. I do eat a lot more fruits, veggies. nuts and lean meats. I cant lie, I do have moments when I miss junk food, but I feel like crap for at least 2 days with bloating and so forth... thank you for all your input!0 -
I tend to take his advice with a grain of salt..if there were that many suppliments to lose weight a lot more people would know. What I do is I take the info to my Dr and ask her about it, I said she must hate hearing about him lol. But she said it can sometimes be a learning experience for her, someone comes in and asks, she looks into it, and if it is true she's learned something new. I trust my Dr, you should try to ask you Dr before trying anything off tv or the internet anyway0
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He's as entertaining as he's paid to be...0
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Just watch his show for two more days and you'll see that all he does is try to sell you stuff. Every night while I watch the news I see a commercial for his show and one day he promises the secret to lose weight.
He used to be interesting and seemed serious when he was with Oprah. Now, he just looks stupid.0 -
I agree, he is a quack at this point. Very much an alarmist too - my opinion. Reminds me of someone like Dr. Phil, in it for the money, entertainment, ratings, etc.
I have watched him a few times. Didn't he go all crazy recently about arsenic and apple sauce or apple juice and really it was just an alarmist piece of 'news' not backed by much facts or information? Correct me if I am wrong.
Agreed! He and Dr. Phil both drive me nuts!!!0
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