Doesn't this sound like diabetes?
JonathonMars
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So, this is something that I have that is very good, but I worry it may be TOO good.
It's basically vanilla greek yogurt, a whey protein powder, peanut butter and almonds mixed together.
And then I drink milk with it.
Who needs chocolate?
It's basically vanilla greek yogurt, a whey protein powder, peanut butter and almonds mixed together.
And then I drink milk with it.
Who needs chocolate?
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sounds tasty, wish I could eat almonds. are you worried about the sugar? Was a little confused by your title. If so, I would switch the vanilla yogurt for plain since your protein powder is probably flavored
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I eat that for breakfast everyday.0
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I meant, "Doesn't this sound like diabetes?" to signify the high possibility of me contracting diabetes from eating this--or perhaps, the extreme way in which this meal resembles something that would trigger a diabetic coma, à la the scent of a Waffle House.0
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I eat that for breakfast everyday.
Oh, well if you eat it for breakfast everyday and look like that, I should be good then! Right? Right?0 -
I meant, "Doesn't this sound like diabetes?" to signify the high possibility of me contracting diabetes from eating this--or perhaps, the extreme way in which this meal resembles something that would trigger a diabetic coma, à la the scent of a Waffle House.
haha okay, well maybe just don't eat it every day. does it keep you full?0 -
Honestly, I eat quite a bit--I very rarely feel hungry at all. The hardest thing lately for me as far as food goes is the motivation to get up and prepare it!0
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FYI.....eating sugar or sugary foods does not CAUSE diabetes.0
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Yeah, I think I knew that.0
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Who needs chocolate?
I do.
My standard "breakfast" (I do IF, so breakfast doesn't typically happen 'til around noon), is:
- Greek yogurt
- Chocolate protein powder
- Peanut Butter & Co's "Dark Chocolate Dreams" (dark chocolate peanut butter)
- Reese's puffs
- Chocolate chips
All mixed together. Yum. (And no diabetes here :-)0 -
I eat that for breakfast everyday.
Oh, well if you eat it for breakfast everyday and look like that, I should be good then! Right? Right?
You should except I just read the part about 'vanilla' Greek yogurt, which is probably sweetened. What I do is that I add the vanilla protein powder to the yogurt (it's sweetened with stevia so it's sugar free) and it makes the yogurt taste delish! Or just sometimes I eat it just like that with lots of fruits, nuts, and seeds. I don't need to sweeten the yogurt most of the times.0 -
Ohhh, that's a dangerous comment to people who are Diabetic. An overabundance of sugar and sugary food can and most likely will bring on Diabetes. your pancreas slows down and doesn't pump insulin properly. Adding more sugar to this insulin-yes-makes a diabetic! Are you saying that as a diabetic, I don't have to cut down on sugar? rediculous. This is a dangerous thing to say on this forum! Insulin (sugar) levels need to stay low and pumping sugar in won't keep them there. Please Diabetics...please realize this!0
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Ohhh, that's a dangerous comment to people who are Diabetic. An overabundance of sugar and sugary food can and most likely will bring on Diabetes. your pancreas slows down and doesn't pump insulin properly. Adding more sugar to this insulin-yes-makes a diabetic! Are you saying that as a diabetic, I don't have to cut down on sugar? rediculous. This is a dangerous thing to say on this forum! Insulin (sugar) levels need to stay low and pumping sugar in won't keep them there. Please Diabetics...please realize this!
*sigh*
Eating sugar and sugary foods does NOT cause diabetes (http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/ - Myth #3). No one is suggesting that people with diabetes not watch their sugar/carb intake.
My husband recently developed type 2 diabetes. He does not like sugary foods (I do). He is not overweight. He is not sedentary. His father has type 2 diabetes. His sister has type 2 diabetes. In his case, in all likelihood, genetics are the biggest factor.0 -
Maybe genetics paid a big play and maybe not...never proven. What is proven is that an overabundance of sugar and food (carbs) that turns to sugar most likely will bring on Diabetes...in a year, 5 years, 25 years...everyone is different! But yes, an overabundance of many things can and probably will cause issues over time. Sugar is one and it's killer is diabetes.0
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I cut and pasted this address...came up that it doesn't exist. Also, because your husband, one person contracted it another way doesn't mean that no one can get it from overdosing on sugar.0
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I'm using people in my life to illustrate my point. Not sure why that link isn't working for you. Here it is again.
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/
Here is a small excerpt:
Myth: Eating too much sugar causes diabetes.
Fact: No, it does not. Type 1 diabetes is caused by genetics and unknown factors that trigger the onset of the disease; type 2 diabetes is caused by genetics and lifestyle factors. Being overweight does increase your risk for developing type 2 diabetes, and a diet high in calories, whether from sugar or from fat, can contribute to weight gain. If you have a history of diabetes in your family, eating a healthy meal plan and regular exercise are recommended to manage your weight.
Myth: People with diabetes should eat special diabetic foods.
Fact: A healthy meal plan for people with diabetes is generally the same as a healthy diet for anyone – low in fat (especially saturated and trans fat), moderate in salt and sugar, with meals based on whole grain foods, vegetables and fruit. Diabetic and “dietetic” foods generally offer no special benefit. Most of them still raise blood glucose levels, are usually more expensive, and can also have a laxative effect if they contain sugar alcohols.
Myth: If you have diabetes, you should only eat small amounts of starchy foods, such as bread, potatoes and pasta.
Fact: Starchy foods are part of a healthy meal plan. What is important is the portion size. Whole grain breads, cereals, pasta, rice and starchy vegetables like potatoes, yams, peas and corn can be included in your meals and snacks. The key is portions. For most people with diabetes, having 3-4 servings of carbohydrate-containing foods per meal is about right. Whole grain starchy foods are also a good source of fiber, which helps keep your gut healthy.
Myth: People with diabetes can't eat sweets or chocolate.
Fact: If eaten as part of a healthy meal plan, or combined with exercise, sweets and desserts can be eaten by people with diabetes. They are no more “off limits” to people with diabetes than they are to people without diabetes.0 -
So, this is something that I have that is very good, but I worry it may be TOO good.
It's basically vanilla greek yogurt, a whey protein powder, peanut butter and almonds mixed together.
And then I drink milk with it.
Who needs chocolate?
The other day I was low on protein so I mixed 2 (yes 2) scoops of coffee flavored whey protein powder into my vanilla Greek yogurt. It was so thick and yummy it actually hit my sweet tooth. (I should mention that I'm the type of person who eats frosting with a spoon. Well... I used to.) It was awesome! But I'd still take some chocolate.0 -
Why is that a dangerous comment to a diabetic? Nobody said sugar is great for diabetics. You already HAVE diabetes. Sugar isn't going to CAUSE it when you already HAVE IT.Ohhh, that's a dangerous comment to people who are Diabetic. An overabundance of sugar and sugary food can and most likely will bring on Diabetes. your pancreas slows down and doesn't pump insulin properly. Adding more sugar to this insulin-yes-makes a diabetic! Are you saying that as a diabetic, I don't have to cut down on sugar? rediculous. This is a dangerous thing to say on this forum! Insulin (sugar) levels need to stay low and pumping sugar in won't keep them there. Please Diabetics...please realize this!0 -
I understand that you found this article and I have found many that boast the opposite. This is why we must not put all or most of our beliefs in something like this, but in professionals who research, study and live it.
If I go out and have ice cream, my sugar goes way up...my cousins doesn't. I have Type II Diabetes. I wasn't overweight when it was found, but I ate a lot of sugar. If I eat a lot of carbs, my sugar goes up. My sisters doesn't. She isn't Diabetic, so when carbs turn to sugar for her, her pancreas isn't affected as mine is.
I can eat sweets. I can eat and should eat starches. I can and should eat carbs. I have to be careful however as, due to my Diabetes, even too much natural sugar can cause my sugar levels to spike. This is because I am Diabetic. If I eat as much as others who don't have this disease, I will AND HAVE had issues.
So, respectfully, please don't tell me that I can eat whatever I choose...I can't. I had a banana and chocolate protein powder smoothie today. I was able to, as the mix was low sugar. I don't eat a lot of yogurt as, even though light, sugars are 18+ grams of sugar. If I eat them regularly, my sugar spikes. If I go too long not eating right, my sugars cause issues. No coinsidence.
No one in my family has had Diabetes...that we know of. Sugar caused my issue. I was a huge sugar eater. When I eat it, my sugar is high. When I don't, my hemaglobin A1C count drops and I do well.
There are many things we can eat, but if we overdo, it will make us sick. sugar will cause Diabetes if abused...and what constitutes abuse is different for all. No matter what...sugar, alcohol, artificial colors...if we put an abundance of it in our bodies for years, we will have problems.
It is dangerous to tell people who are trying to give up abusing sugar that sugar won't cause problems it is causing. I refuse to live in a dream world. If I have peanut butter cups, my sugar will rise...I can put 10 articles up against your one. I don't need to...it makes no sense to tell me that what I am experiencing doesn't happen. Please be careful...you could harm people with those words.0 -
The excerpt I posted is from the American Diabetes Association.
Here is another one addressing the same question: http://diabetes.webmd.com/video/kahn-eating-sugar-cause-diabetes. You might find his credentials interesting. Bottom line is that there is no credible scientific evidence that shows a causal link between sugaar consumption and diabetes. I would love to see any credible scientific links you might have to the contrary.
Which is not to say that someone that has already developed the disease should not manage their diets carefully.0 -
Another interesting point about diabetes... I had gestational diabetes in both my pregnancies and, thus, met with the diabetes clinic at my local hospital and was monitored by an Endocrinologist. Some people who already monitor their blood sugar believe that if their blood sugar is a little high it's okay because they just ate something super sweet. That's not true. If you are not diabetic or insulin resistant, you should be able to eat an entire chocolate cake and have your blood sugar remain normal. That's what natural insulin is created for... to take care of the blood sugar before it becomes a problem. If you're getting high readings you're likely already diabetic.0
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This will be my last comment, as it seems to be turning into an argument. All I wanted to do was consider your info and share mine. No, nothing can CAUSE Diabetes if one alreaady has it. But, if I was to continue to eat sugar regularly, my reading would spike and my hemoglobin A1C counts would be too high. eating right IS important, as you said. and yes, eating starches, etc CAn aid in getting Diabetes, as much of that (esp carbs) turns to sugar. When your body then produces too much insulin (the pancreas slows down), you are then in trouble. so yes, too much sugar, starch, carbs, etc CAN lead to Diabetes. It may not for everyone. Some people may get it quicker than others. but, eating too much sugar can kill.
I respect your article, although I don't agree with it. I have proof. But, I will again say - we have people on this forum striving to get healthy. Telling diabetics that sugar won't harm them is dangerous.0 -
Not necessarilly. you could be pre-Diabetic and a healthy diet, low on sugar and carbs could aid in getting your pancreas moving properly again, thus creating the right amounts of insulin. This could assist you in not becoming Diabetic. often, it can be controlled by diet...low in starches, carbs and sugar.0
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I meant, "Doesn't this sound like diabetes?" to signify the high possibility of me contracting diabetes from eating this--or perhaps, the extreme way in which this meal resembles something that would trigger a diabetic coma, à la the scent of a Waffle House.
nope you'll be fine, IMO.
I have greek yogurt, milk, blueberries, raspberries, and whey every day after training.0 -
This will be my last comment, as it seems to be turning into an argument. All I wanted to do was consider your info and share mine. No, nothing can CAUSE Diabetes if one alreaady has it. But, if I was to continue to eat sugar regularly, my reading would spike and my hemoglobin A1C counts would be too high. eating right IS important, as you said. and yes, eating starches, etc CAn aid in getting Diabetes, as much of that (esp carbs) turns to sugar. When your body then produces too much insulin (the pancreas slows down), you are then in trouble. so yes, too much sugar, starch, carbs, etc CAN lead to Diabetes. It may not for everyone. Some people may get it quicker than others. but, eating too much sugar can kill.
I respect your article, although I don't agree with it. I have proof. But, I will again say - we have people on this forum striving to get healthy. Telling diabetics that sugar won't harm them is dangerous.
i just read all the posts and no one was 'promoting diabetics to eat sugar'... it's just that the American Diabetic Association was stating on that site (link) that it will not 'cause' diabetes. you may believe and probably were told that is what caused yours; however, as you state... it's not the same for everyone.
The only person turning it into an 'argument' was you... The other poster was stating facts from the ADA... Not antagonizing... but you seem quite defensive.0 -
Another interesting point about diabetes... I had gestational diabetes in both my pregnancies and, thus, met with the diabetes clinic at my local hospital and was monitored by an Endocrinologist. Some people who already monitor their blood sugar believe that if their blood sugar is a little high it's okay because they just ate something super sweet. That's not true. If you are not diabetic or insulin resistant, you should be able to eat an entire chocolate cake and have your blood sugar remain normal. That's what natural insulin is created for... to take care of the blood sugar before it becomes a problem. If you're getting high readings you're likely already diabetic.
I, too, had gestational diabetes. My age and family history came into play. I was not a 'sweet' food lover... mine was the carbs factor. However, my husband eats just as bad as I did... and loads of carbs... and he's fine. I'm fine now that I'm not pregnant...0 -
Glad you now agree with me. you said it yourself...not everyone is the same. so, to say that no one will get Diabetes from eating too much sugar or too many carbs/starches doesn't make sense. someone may never get it but others can from eating too many of these things. I am not defensive. I am an adult who respects your choice to believe what you want. All I say is don't put it out there that you can eat all the sweets you want when you're Diabetic. some people fighting that demon may listen.0
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Glad you now agree with me. you said it yourself...not everyone is the same. so, to say that no one will get Diabetes from eating too much sugar or too many carbs/starches doesn't make sense. someone may never get it but others can from eating too many of these things. I am not defensive. I am an adult who respects your choice to believe what you want. All I say is don't put it out there that you can eat all the sweets you want when you're Diabetic. some people fighting that demon may listen.
No one has said that you can eat all the sweets you want if you're diabetic. There is no current scientific evidence to support your position that eating too much sugar CAUSES diabetes. There is no causal link established according to medical literature. I'd be happy to be corrected, but need links to reliable sources.0 -
I'm diabetic but I wouldn't mind eating that one sometimes whenever I'm experiencing a crash on my blood sugar.
Another thing to point out is that while sugar is the known number one enemy, the truth is that simple carbohydrates is the main culprit & sugar is just one of many carbohydrate sources. We don't have to totally eliminate it but avoid it as much as possible & in case that an occassion calls for it, we have to watch out the quantity especially if the condition is worse.0 -
Respectfully again (not in defense as accused), I don't need articles to prove a point. I ended up with Diabetes. I have an enormous sweet tooth. Within days of cutting back, my levels began to drop. Coinsidence? Within 2 weeks, my first hemoglobin A1C was down 3 points. My mistake many years ago-I replaced sweets with carbs. Carbs turn to sugar. My counts went back up. Upon bringing them down, my counts decreased. I now see a nutritionist and am here. I don't need to provide proof of anything. I look at cause...yes, cause and effect. My Dr, specializing in Diabetes told me that my sweet tooth was the main culprit. I have no Diabetes in my family. Yes, I could be more suseptible than someone else and the sugar and carbs took it over the edge, causing me to be Diabetic.
Agree or don't-that is your choice. Like I have said many times as I didn't want this to get ugly, I respect your info. I respectfully disagree. I am not defending myself...I don't need to. I have stayed polite, although the same wasn't done to me. People are allowed to disagree without others verbally berading them. Lastly, when on a site like this where people are trying to lose weight and adapt healthy eating habits, I believe it was said (not necessarilly by you) that you can eat an entire chocolate cake and it won't affect your sugar levels...not so...I am living proof. AND that is dangerous and well...quite cruel to tell someone who is trying to break such habits. Nothing against you . Let's just HELP each other, respect each other and care instead of getting bent out of shape because someone questions something you say. done...I was trying to be helpful...thought that's what this was all about. I won't even read your next comment.0
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