96% of restaurant entrees exceed USDA limits

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  • Rae6503
    Rae6503 Posts: 6,294 Member
    I "we" didn't buy it. "They" wouldn't sell it.

    If restaurants cut portions sizes to "normal" people would complain.
  • Elzecat
    Elzecat Posts: 2,916 Member
    Tbh, I'm not going to restaurants with the expectation that it should be healthy. For me, eating out is a treat, usually for celebrations.

    That's a great option for some people. But there are a lot of times when I have to eat whatever's available, and I do wish there more healthy options. I spend a lot of time in specialists' medical offices, a long way from home, with my disabled kid, and preparing my own food is just not always practical. I do the best I can, but when you're in an unfamiliar place far from home with a kid who takes extra time to get into and out of the car (not to mention going to the bathroom, aiyee!), and you've got one hour for lunch and you have to be back on time or you get bumped, and there's nothing close by that's a healthy choice (say, a Jason's Deli)... it's just hard. I do wish restaurants would be more accomodating and offer healthier choices. Some of us have to eat out more than is ideal, and it gripes me for people to dismissively say "Oh, eating out should just be an occasional treat anyway!" For some of us, it's not that simple. I'd like to be healthy, too.

    sorry for the total thread jack, but you have a point--your situation with your child requires some special planning and I can imagine it's really frustrating...as a former special ed teacher, I remember a lot of my students' families dealing with this issue...what about carrying a small cooler in the car with healthy options so you don't have to bother with the fast food restaurants that much? just a thought :)
  • Awkward30
    Awkward30 Posts: 1,927 Member
    My health is absolutely not the restaurant industry's responsibility. The only thing that I think really should change is that the nutrition information should be on all menus so that we can make educated decisions.
  • rubygarcia86
    rubygarcia86 Posts: 73 Member
    alot of it has to do with the consumer. whoever posted if "we" didnt buy it "they" wouldnt sell it said it best. Im not going to lie, I eat out with my BF often, more often than not.
    if you are going to eat out and try to stay healthy then ask for a lunch portion or simply eat half of whats on your plate, or get just soup. you have the option of choosing what to do.
  • Qarol
    Qarol Posts: 6,171 Member
    My health is absolutely not the restaurant industry's responsibility. The only thing that I think really should change is that the nutrition information should be on all menus so that we can make educated decisions.
    I get why so many people want this. But I imagine it's costly for restaurants to comply with a mandate. And any extra cost they incur is just going to get passed to us consumers.
  • mellabyte
    mellabyte Posts: 193 Member
    When I go out to eat, I'm already aware it's a gauntlet health-wise - but I don't let it start to stunt any aspect of my life. Part of making the lifestyle change is learning to make smart choices without feeling like you're depriving yourself or start feeling like you can't be yourself.

    I just do the best I can.

    Edit the hell out of what I order, politely - less/no salt, sauce on the side, no oil, no msg, sub veggies for fat-saturated carbs, a baked potato for fries, do you have whole wheat pasta, do you do lunch portions for dinner, etc, etc - always adding "if it's possible". I've never had problems with waitstaff being rude because I try to emphasize that I just want to know if it's possible. (Not demand it.)

    I also never eat all of what I've ordered, only half or a third, and I drink a full glass of water before eating. When I do this, I find that I don't feel the need to clean my plate. I take the rest home and save it for a workout day, lots of things freeze well if you know the tricks to reheating it later.

    If it's a required function somewhere like iHop, Outback or Chili's or whatever that's basically a death trap no matter how you slice it, you can still order a salad, minus all the terrible for you stuff with dressing on the side, hell - go vegan, and then find something more filling and healthy later. If people hate on you for it, let them hate - you don't have to take any crap for wanting to live past 40.

    And sure, I have my bad days and you can't avoid all the traps constantly when eating out and those days when you're celebrating, but when you put in some effort...it's not a conspiracy if you take some control. Like some already mentioned, if that's too much work for you - just don't eat out.

    (Sorry for the long rant and if I offended anyone. ._.)
  • My dream is to open a healthy restaurant. A place where people can come and eat healthy... have special menu items with all the nutrition information available.


    Any investors out there? lol
  • Umeboshi
    Umeboshi Posts: 1,637 Member
    Not surprising. It would be nice if places offered more healthy options.
  • MassiveDelta
    MassiveDelta Posts: 3,271 Member
    It's possible to be in great shape and not do anything the USDA recommends.

    Great point! Isn't the USDA the same idiots who said it's ok to put pink slime in ground beef?

    Whenever people think of that, I'm sure they imagine putting mounds of that pink stuff in their mouth and yes, that image is disgusting.

    But isn't the image of just eating handfuls of salt, or sugar, just as unappetizing? Yet we still love sugar and salt in our food.

    Just a little perspective.

    For me, the idea of eating spoonfuls of sugar or salt compared to ground up tendons, connective tissue, fat, etc cooked in ammonia is significantly more appetizing.

    Completely inaccurate you are very misinformed but that's what our jump to conclusions society does.

    http://beefisbeef.com/2012/03/15/top-7-myths-of-pink-slime/

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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,217 Member
    My dream is to open a healthy restaurant. A place where people can come and eat healthy... have special menu items with all the nutrition information available.


    Any investors out there? lol
    Your not in the restaurant business are you? I'm just kidding, but seriously it's a tough business, I know I've owned 2 restaurants over the years. My focus was on fine dinning and I used only fresh natural ingredients, the only canned foods were tomatoes, green peppercorns and foie gras on occation and my dream was to cook my food, my way. I soon learned that it's the customer that dictates what I cook and how much I charge...fortunately I didn't take it personally. lol
  • Coyla
    Coyla Posts: 444 Member
    The pink slime doesn't bother me. I think it's good that we're using all those extras from the animals instead of chucking them out. It's efficient and less wasteful.

    U.S. food companies have done a marvelous job of feeding us cheaply. It used to be that starvation was a bigger concern than obesity. Really, when you think about it, it is pretty amazing.

    However, I feel like the push to keep us all from starving has gone a little too far. It's time for food companies and restaurants to dial back just a little. Some already are. Food companies and restaurants are at the mercy of us, the consumer. The shift from "gimme more" to healthy eating is starting to have an impact.
  • jenbusick
    jenbusick Posts: 528 Member
    Tbh, I'm not going to restaurants with the expectation that it should be healthy. For me, eating out is a treat, usually for celebrations.

    That's a great option for some people. But there are a lot of times when I have to eat whatever's available, and I do wish there more healthy options. I spend a lot of time in specialists' medical offices, a long way from home, with my disabled kid, and preparing my own food is just not always practical. I do the best I can, but when you're in an unfamiliar place far from home with a kid who takes extra time to get into and out of the car (not to mention going to the bathroom, aiyee!), and you've got one hour for lunch and you have to be back on time or you get bumped, and there's nothing close by that's a healthy choice (say, a Jason's Deli)... it's just hard. I do wish restaurants would be more accomodating and offer healthier choices. Some of us have to eat out more than is ideal, and it gripes me for people to dismissively say "Oh, eating out should just be an occasional treat anyway!" For some of us, it's not that simple. I'd like to be healthy, too.

    sorry for the total thread jack, but you have a point--your situation with your child requires some special planning and I can imagine it's really frustrating...as a former special ed teacher, I remember a lot of my students' families dealing with this issue...what about carrying a small cooler in the car with healthy options so you don't have to bother with the fast food restaurants that much? just a thought :)

    I do that sometimes -- for ex, kid has therapy 25 miles from home every Wednesday. There's a park nearby. When I can manage it, I pack a lunch and we eat in the park. But if it's raining or cold, there's nowhere for us to eat a packed lunch (restaurants frown on you bringing your own food, and there's no place to sit and eat at the clinic; they're cramped enough for space). But when we go to, say, the endocrine clinic 90 miles away in a building with no cafeteria and, again, no place handy to eat a packed lunch, it's really not practical. There's really not much provision made for families who travel a long way.

    Last year we spent 3 weeks at at Ronald McDonald house. One of their big claims is that you can have your own fridge and pantry space, and access to a kitchen, so you can cook your own food, right? Well, in practical terms, that's more difficult than it sounds. I've spent two long stays in an RMH, and between the hours you're spending at the hospital with your sick kid and the hours you spend going back and forth and the emotional drain and the fact that you're not sleeping in your own bed and the fact that it takes a fair bit of planning to cook for just one or two plus you're downtown in a city with limited grocery store access and your fridge space is one small bin and most recipes use a lot of things that you just keep in your kitchen rather than buying them every time and those things take up a lot of space and cost a fair bit of money... I'm telling you, this is HARD.

    Not everybody who eats in restaurants is limiting it to an "occasional treat." For some of us, that's all there's time and energy and provision for. I could use some healthier options for those stressful times.
  • TeachTheGirl
    TeachTheGirl Posts: 2,091 Member
    If restaurants cut portions sizes to "normal" people would complain.

    I certainly wouldn't. What I dislike most if when a restaurant has their own calorie indicator on their website and put up the serving size and calories involved and then give me DOUBLE the serving. In a lot of cases, I'd still be willing to pay the same amount for one serving or at least have them tell me 'this is more than one portion'.

    Heck, if they'd just have a section of the menu which caters specifically to people only looking for single servings, it would make life for everyone a heck of a lot easier.
  • sarahrbraun
    sarahrbraun Posts: 2,261 Member
    Tbh, I'm not going to restaurants with the expectation that it should be healthy. For me, eating out is a treat, usually for celebrations.

    That's a great option for some people. But there are a lot of times when I have to eat whatever's available, and I do wish there more healthy options. I spend a lot of time in specialists' medical offices, a long way from home, with my disabled kid, and preparing my own food is just not always practical. I do the best I can, but when you're in an unfamiliar place far from home with a kid who takes extra time to get into and out of the car (not to mention going to the bathroom, aiyee!), and you've got one hour for lunch and you have to be back on time or you get bumped, and there's nothing close by that's a healthy choice (say, a Jason's Deli)... it's just hard. I do wish restaurants would be more accomodating and offer healthier choices. Some of us have to eat out more than is ideal, and it gripes me for people to dismissively say "Oh, eating out should just be an occasional treat anyway!" For some of us, it's not that simple. I'd like to be healthy, too.

    sorry for the total thread jack, but you have a point--your situation with your child requires some special planning and I can imagine it's really frustrating...as a former special ed teacher, I remember a lot of my students' families dealing with this issue...what about carrying a small cooler in the car with healthy options so you don't have to bother with the fast food restaurants that much? just a thought :)

    I do that sometimes -- for ex, kid has therapy 25 miles from home every Wednesday. There's a park nearby. When I can manage it, I pack a lunch and we eat in the park. But if it's raining or cold, there's nowhere for us to eat a packed lunch (restaurants frown on you bringing your own food, and there's no place to sit and eat at the clinic; they're cramped enough for space). But when we go to, say, the endocrine clinic 90 miles away in a building with no cafeteria and, again, no place handy to eat a packed lunch, it's really not practical. There's really not much provision made for families who travel a long way.

    Last year we spent 3 weeks at at Ronald McDonald house. One of their big claims is that you can have your own fridge and pantry space, and access to a kitchen, so you can cook your own food, right? Well, in practical terms, that's more difficult than it sounds. I've spent two long stays in an RMH, and between the hours you're spending at the hospital with your sick kid and the hours you spend going back and forth and the emotional drain and the fact that you're not sleeping in your own bed and the fact that it takes a fair bit of planning to cook for just one or two plus you're downtown in a city with limited grocery store access and your fridge space is one small bin and most recipes use a lot of things that you just keep in your kitchen rather than buying them every time and those things take up a lot of space and cost a fair bit of money... I'm telling you, this is HARD.

    Not everybody who eats in restaurants is limiting it to an "occasional treat." For some of us, that's all there's time and energy and provision for. I could use some healthier options for those stressful times.

    When I visited my friend during her 2 week stay at Ronald McDonald House ( her daughter was born with TA/TEF and had to have surgery at 1 day old), I took a small cooler bag with hawiian chicken salad, crackers, and some home made granola bars and left it with her--that was one less meal she had to scrounge for.

    A tip I heard years ago for those who are watching their diet is to ask for a to go container to be brought WITH your meal. Before you take the first bite, put half your meal in the container for the next day. Then proceed to eat what is left on your plate. My FIL ( a light eater) and my MIL ( a diabetic) often share an entree at a restaurant.
  • jabberwockgee
    jabberwockgee Posts: 49 Member
    If restaurants cut portions sizes to "normal" people would complain.

    I certainly wouldn't. What I dislike most if when a restaurant has their own calorie indicator on their website and put up the serving size and calories involved and then give me DOUBLE the serving. In a lot of cases, I'd still be willing to pay the same amount for one serving or at least have them tell me 'this is more than one portion'.

    Heck, if they'd just have a section of the menu which caters specifically to people only looking for single servings, it would make life for everyone a heck of a lot easier.

    Somewhat related, but not really a direct reply:

    I've become anal retentive about checking nutrition information when available before I eat at a restaurant, so I usually know if they try to give you multiples, but it is annoying if you didn't know beforehand.

    On the other hand, when I eat at restaurants that don't have nutrition information, I feel I've become fairly good at dividing up my food into what I will eat there and what I will take home based on what I believe is a 'real' serving size. Once you've logged enough food into this site, you start to learn what a normal amount of food is, because what most restaurants serve is not really normal (unless you only plan on eating once every 1-1.5 days).
  • muddyventures
    muddyventures Posts: 360 Member
    My mind set is that when I eat out I'm not looking for healthy, I consider it a treat and we do it so rarely. I think the issue for most is that so many families live on fast food or eating out. I personally think that each establishment can serve what they want as long as they are honest about what it is and the nutritional information. People in general need to take control and choose healthier places, demand will determine everything in the end anyway.
  • i_miss_donuts
    i_miss_donuts Posts: 180 Member
    Yes, the safest bet is to make your own food at home, and the best way to prevent teen pregnancy is abstinence. We have seen how well that works too!

    We live in the real world where sometimes we have to eat out by choice or by chance. I just wish more restaurants would willingly provide a section of the menu that is healthy fare under x calories or x grams of saturated fat. It would make it easier for everyone to make healthy choices.
  • satxdc99
    satxdc99 Posts: 74 Member
    This is why we RARELY eat out. Grocery store food is not so great either. We have started buying whole animals and having them processed at local butcher shops. We also buy farm fresh eggs which have an orange yolk, not yellow like the sickly eggs from the grocery stores. We get deer processed during hunting season and freeze the meat. This way we know what we are eating. We limit the amount of processed foods. I am not saying we don't eat anything processed but the less, the better. It is our responsibility to educate ourselves and then make better choices. If you eat well 90% of the time then eating out from time to time won't kill you. My husband and I will always share a plate if we go out to eat. We can't avoid birthday celebration dinners or social gatherings so we just do our best to eat right the rest of the time.
  • wildboar1
    wildboar1 Posts: 88
    This is almost completely irrelevant. Are they trying to show a causation between this and obesity? Because they didn't show it.

    Another stupid Dr. Oz-style scapegoat article.
  • jenbusick
    jenbusick Posts: 528 Member

    When I visited my friend during her 2 week stay at Ronald McDonald House ( her daughter was born with TA/TEF and had to have surgery at 1 day old), I took a small cooler bag with hawiian chicken salad, crackers, and some home made granola bars and left it with her--that was one less meal she had to scrounge for.

    A tip I heard years ago for those who are watching their diet is to ask for a to go container to be brought WITH your meal. Before you take the first bite, put half your meal in the container for the next day. Then proceed to eat what is left on your plate. My FIL ( a light eater) and my MIL ( a diabetic) often share an entree at a restaurant.

    Bless you! During our first RMH stay we were in the same city with my brother; after a few days of exhaustion and expensive restaurant food or bad hospital cafeteria food, I called my SIL in desperation and asked if her church could help. They actually brought us meals at the hospital, for the rest of the time we were there. That was great.

    During our other stay, there was a Moe's Southwest Grill near the hospital, and they have some healthier options. But boy did I get sick of Moe's.

    I sometimes split meals with my older daughter, or just eat half and take half home. And a lot of restaurants offer green vegetables (steamed, even!) as a side option now; I love it when I can get asparagus!
  • skinnylion
    skinnylion Posts: 213
    Hopefully people understand that if you want to eat healthier then eating out at restaurants is not going down the right path generally, and restaurants are not responsible for your health, you are. rant over.

    Yes, but this is an American standard. There are plenty of other countries that serve perfectly healthy meals at restaurants.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,217 Member
    Hopefully people understand that if you want to eat healthier then eating out at restaurants is not going down the right path generally, and restaurants are not responsible for your health, you are. rant over.

    Yes, but this is an American standard. There are plenty of other countries that serve perfectly healthy meals at restaurants.
    Funny, I addressed that in my next post. Another eye opener was Holland. I was surprised at how small a portion was.
  • wildboar1
    wildboar1 Posts: 88
    Hopefully people understand that if you want to eat healthier then eating out at restaurants is not going down the right path generally, and restaurants are not responsible for your health, you are. rant over.

    Yes, but this is an American standard. There are plenty of other countries that serve perfectly healthy meals at restaurants.

    Please enlighten me as to what a "healthy meal" is.
  • AeolianHarp
    AeolianHarp Posts: 463 Member
    Hopefully people understand that if you want to eat healthier then eating out at restaurants is not going down the right path generally, and restaurants are not responsible for your health, you are. rant over.

    Yes, but this is an American standard. There are plenty of other countries that serve perfectly healthy meals at restaurants.

    I don't think there's anything unhealthy about the American Standard meal. I'm not sure why anyone thinks so. Maybe they're simply misinformed?
  • jenbusick
    jenbusick Posts: 528 Member
    Hopefully people understand that if you want to eat healthier then eating out at restaurants is not going down the right path generally, and restaurants are not responsible for your health, you are. rant over.

    Yes, but this is an American standard. There are plenty of other countries that serve perfectly healthy meals at restaurants.
    Funny, I addressed that in my next post. Another eye opener was Holland. I was surprised at how small a portion was.

    My parents once hosted four German exchange students for a few weeks. They took them to Cracker Barrel. When the food arrived, the students goggled at it. "Is this ALL for ME?" one of them asked, astounded. I would guess that in other countries, portion sizes are at least more reasonable...