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bishoph
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So, I have been to my doctor and she thinks I need to see a therapist. I am wanting some other opinions from those who do not know me. I am a 27 year old girl who is very active, happy, and healthy. EXCEPT, I have these haunting thoughts that last all day about my weight and food. I worry about eating too much food (because I binge sometimes), not working out enough, gaining weight, etc. it is on my mind constantly. I have been prescribed to Celexa to try to get rid of these obsessive thoughts. It may have helped in the beginning (2 years ago) but it also could have all been in my head. So now that I am still having these thoughts, I would like to be off of the medicine. Therapists are not covered by insurance and $100 a time may really add up. Am I someone alone in this or do other people think the same way? My husband thinks that is just my make-up and that is how I am. I am looking for some ideas to help me rid these thoughts. I know all of the usual stuff: take a walk, find a hobby, read a book, etc. and those do work sometimes, but there are weeks when I am just a mess about it. PLEASE HELP!!!
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So, I have been to my doctor and she thinks I need to see a therapist. I am wanting some other opinions from those who do not know me. I am a 27 year old girl who is very active, happy, and healthy. EXCEPT, I have these haunting thoughts that last all day about my weight and food. I worry about eating too much food (because I binge sometimes), not working out enough, gaining weight, etc. it is on my mind constantly. I have been prescribed to Celexa to try to get rid of these obsessive thoughts. It may have helped in the beginning (2 years ago) but it also could have all been in my head. So now that I am still having these thoughts, I would like to be off of the medicine. Therapists are not covered by insurance and $100 a time may really add up. Am I someone alone in this or do other people think the same way? My husband thinks that is just my make-up and that is how I am. I am looking for some ideas to help me rid these thoughts. I know all of the usual stuff: take a walk, find a hobby, read a book, etc. and those do work sometimes, but there are weeks when I am just a mess about it. PLEASE HELP!!!0
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You may very well have some "issues" with obsessive thoughts - I will leave that for an expert (like your doctor!).
However, on a positive note, this site is the perfect place for someone who is obsessive about what they eat (and I would say most of the site users are to some degree).
My advice? Use this site, and use your "obsession" to make sure you are eating healthy - you can track it right down to the calorie if you so desire.
Then gradually wean yourself off the site as you become more comfortable with your eating habits.
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Hi
I thought i would answer you as I am also 27, happily married and obsessed with my weight/food.
Although from your picture you seem like you are a normal weight and I am definately overweight!
I think as long as you are not taking it to the point where you are not eating and losing weight beyond the normal ie becoming underweight then i don't see that you need a therapist. I know loads of people who are obessed with healthy eating and exercise!
I think hj is right, just keep coming here and checking that you are eating healthy and checking in with us, there is lots of good advice here!
I also think that if it was becoming a problem of becoming underweight your husband would point this out and then it is DEFINATELY one for a therapist!
Hope this helps!
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I have spent time in therapy for different issues, and have to say, it is a good thing.
Although, i am lucky and it is all covered by provincial health care here.
Most of the time they suggest a book/workbook to do, something that pertains to my problem, and i work at it myself. I think that is important. But they are also there for anythign i may need them for. Check out your local book store, in the self help section. Maybe go to a couple sessions to see what he/she would recomend.
It could make a huge difference in you life...in a very good way.0 -
Hi!
I don't have much to say to help. All I know is that this site is really supportive. So we're here for you! :flowerforyou:
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I DO eat healthy, too much, probably. I have found the calorie counter helpful during the day (as I am a teacher and can login all day) but at night is when I tend to overeat and do not log on to track food. I know I am at a healthy weight but when a pound or two slip on, it is a stress-case for me. I am so glad I have found someone to talk to. I have never actually had an eating disorder (bulemia, anorexia) but it just consumes my thoughts. I will continue to read posts and hear from you your thoughts. I appreciate it!0
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Again, I am not a doctor, But this is why you asked all of us.
From what you said, I do think you might have an eating disorder.
Not a full blown one mind you, but an eating disorder none the less.
Of course. I would venture a guess, most everyone on this site has an eating disorder in one form or another.
BECAUSE what you discribed DOES sound like an eating disorder, see if your city has a group for eating disorders. They are often free, and very helpful with talking things out and making friends that help you through those tough times. Might find a phone number in the yellow pages.
I also agree that you have found a very good site to be on for the very same reasons. You will find a lot of people in the same situation as you are, and there is always comfort in knowing that you are not alone. And dear...YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!
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I do also agree with you that I DO have an eatig disorder, just not one that has a certain name. I am having trouble finding a locak support group that would be a free facility to attend. I looked in edreferral.com and I live in an area where a group is not offered. I guess I live in the world of convenience and do not want to drive an hour to meet with a group. Any other ideas on how to find support groups? I have so much support from family, my husband, and school girls, but want someone from the outside!0
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The real question that needs to be answered Bishoph (and maybe this needs to be answered by a therapist, but maybe not) is whether this is something that is controllable by force of will?
In other words, can you prevent doing this by self-control or removing the triggers or changing your focus (taking your mind off it by doing something else)? If the answer to this question is yes, then I don't think you need therapy, if the answer is no, then a combination of therapy and medication might be necessary .
I really hope you find your answers, I wish I could give them to you, but we will be here for you when you do find them out.
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Definately tracking should help then you can assure yourself of healthy eating. I think that if you are seriously concerned that your evening intake is not healthy that a good way to get past that is to plan your meals. Very much like planning your day at school your meals can be planned and followed. Then when a change does occur and your hubby takes you to dinner or company comes you know exactly where you are and how much you can allow yourself.
Perhaps that won't nececarily take your mind off your food but put you more in control of what is happening. Because feeling like you are out of control is never fun.
Hope this helps.
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Wow! I have been thinking about writing a post like that! You basically took the words right out of my mouth! I don't know if you should see a therapist. I am not a doctor. A therapist might be able to get to the bottom of just exactly WHY you are obsessed with food, though, and it might give you some relief.
For me, food is a daily, constant struggle. I have noticed that I constantly obsess about food ALL DAY LONG! I am either:
**Overeating or obsessing about just eating too much
**Thinking about eating ALL the food I just bought (even thought I am not hungry)
**Buying two meals because they both sound good and I can't decide which one I want and then eating them BOTH (even when I am not hungry)
**Not being able to walk by the potato chip rack at the store without buying some or obsessing over it
**Taking way too big portions and then having to finish the WHOLE thing
**Making more food while I am eating, and then being too full to eat it, but I eat it anyway
**Buying 4 of everything at the grocery store
**Eating because of feelings (I am lonely, angry, tired, bored, etc.)
These are just a few of the things I mull over EVERY DAY. I don't know if anything or anyone could ever change the obsession I have with food. I have actually never tried. It sounds like you obsess like me. What do you think? Are we soul sisters?
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I do also agree with you that I DO have an eatig disorder, just not one that has a certain name. I am having trouble finding a locak support group that would be a free facility to attend. I looked in edreferral.com and I live in an area where a group is not offered. I guess I live in the world of convenience and do not want to drive an hour to meet with a group. Any other ideas on how to find support groups? I have so much support from family, my husband, and school girls, but want someone from the outside!
Could this be some form of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?
Have you sat and asked yourself Why it stresses you so much to gain a lb or 2?
My sister developed Bulemia due to watching the humiliation i went through as a child, bing grossly overweight. She had such a fear of becoming fat that she would get rid of it as soon as she ate it. Thankfully she sought councelling, and is now a healthy woman. She still struggles with her weoght, cause it is genetic, on both sides of our family...but at least now she doesn't have to freak about it.
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Another thought came to me and thought I would add it. When I was younger I did think about food constantly. I am 35 now and though that is certainly not old I don't think of it all the time now. I am not sure if it is an age thing but it is a thought. Personally when I was thinking constantly about food it was a stress reliever, a get away in my own mind regardless of where I was. For whatever reason it was just my way of dealing with difficult things or even just everyday things. I have learned over the years that I don't have to think about food all the time. I am and have been for quite awhile been working at trying to refocus my eating habbits and remember that it is fuel for my body rather than a get away.
Hope this makes sense.
Eve
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I think we might BE! Have you talked about it with your husband? Mine seems to think it is a normal thing to worry and that I am just fine. I do believe it is obviously something we can control, but then again sometimes worry why it is ALWAYS a thought in my mind. I have never been overweight so not sure why I worry about it so much. I cannot see your entire profile but you do not look as though you are either. My mother & sister are very skinny and I sometimes think this is where all my worries/thoughts are stemming from. I will admit that I am a normal size but I have to WORK for it. I cannot eat the way they do and remain slim. I have to work out and eat healthy (which neither of them do). I really like my Dr. so I wish she could give me some ideas instead of sending me to a therapist. I do think this website is helping because it is nice to talk to someone outside of my life who does not know me. I am the same way about food though. I have decided it is stress-induced. I obviously had the summer off, was able to workout EVERY day, and had time to relax. Once school began, it was an instant stressor to be busy every second of my day. I am so glad I have someone to talk to and maybe we can get through it together. I am going to work on getting a workbook that someone mentioned and work through it myself before seeing a therapist that would charge $100 each visit. THANK YOU FOR ALL RESPONDING!0
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Two years ago, I was put on celexa and that was to hopefully diminish the obsessive-compulsive thoughts. IT may be some form of that but the medicine does not seem to be working. Possibly a fix in the beginning (or just in my head). That is the reason I would like to get off the medicine if the thoughts are still bothering me. I was never given the medicine for depression purposes. Soley for the obsessive thoughts?!?0
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Call your doctors office they will know if there is a support group where you live. You can even call your local hospital or a mental health unit. They will know for sure where you can find a support group that can help you with your food issues.
I guess you could say that I am obsessed about food also. I have been morbidly obese twice….yes twice. The first time I lost 174 pounds. This last time I have lost 171 pounds. I had NO surgery either time to lose weight either.
I watch the scales VERY closely now. When I go up a few pounds I get busy losing that weight. I could easily be obese again. Brain cells come and brain cells die but fat cells live forever. I REFUSE to plump those suckers up a third time.
My every waking moment I am thinking about my food. I have to plan my meals and count every calorie that goes in my mouth right down to each and every ounce of any condiment etc. I weight and measure each and every thing I eat. The only time I don’t is when I have my treat day which is each Friday. That one day each week I eat what every I want to. I do have to be careful that I don’t eat what every I want all day long though. It would be so very easy for me to eat all day long.
I never buy anything at the supermarket until I flip the package over and read what is in it. If it has too many calories or too much fat I don’t buy it. I also look at the fiber content and if it contains too much sodium.
My husband has had two heart attacks. The last one almost killed him and he has got a lot of heart disease. We are both watching our weight now. We are both below our goal weight and we are making sure we stay there. We go to the supermarket together and the both of us are flipping packages, boxes and cans over to read the nutritional labels. Then we stand there and discuss it. I am sure there are some people who over hear us and wonder why those two skinny people are so obsessed about what is in their food. They just have no idea where we have come from.
So yes we are obsessed with our food too. But we have to be or we will be in deep deep trouble with our health. I feel for my husband and myself watching what we eat and being careful (aka obsessing) is the smart thing for us to do.
Everybody is different and everybody has to do what is right for them.
As for binge eating….I have done it from time to time. You mentioned stress being a trigger for you. Stress does that to a lot of people skinny and over weight people. We all do things like that. And oh honey can I ever binge. I have to watch myself because I could do it every day of this world. I am an emotional eater. Just let me get mad and I do my worst damage. Last night I was so ticked over something that I was on my way to doing so. I came here and read a post that helped me put the brakes on that anger binge and I didn’t do it. I read and posted. I can’t eat while I am typing lol.
When I first read your post today and started typing I had just eaten my lunch and was wanting to eat something else to eat. By typing it kept me busy and the 20 minutes that it takes for our brains to get the message we are full and no longer need something to eat passed and now I am fine and content. I will be fine until dinner now. (I had a late lunch so no afternoon snack)
But do try your doctors office or hospital they should be able to help you.
Take care and come here often we are here for you!
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So, I have been to my doctor and she thinks I need to see a therapist. I am wanting some other opinions from those who do not know me. I am a 27 year old girl who is very active, happy, and healthy. EXCEPT, I have these haunting thoughts that last all day about my weight and food. I worry about eating too much food (because I binge sometimes), not working out enough, gaining weight, etc. it is on my mind constantly. I have been prescribed to Celexa to try to get rid of these obsessive thoughts. It may have helped in the beginning (2 years ago) but it also could have all been in my head. So now that I am still having these thoughts, I would like to be off of the medicine. Therapists are not covered by insurance and $100 a time may really add up. Am I someone alone in this or do other people think the same way? My husband thinks that is just my make-up and that is how I am. I am looking for some ideas to help me rid these thoughts. I know all of the usual stuff: take a walk, find a hobby, read a book, etc. and those do work sometimes, but there are weeks when I am just a mess about it. PLEASE HELP!!!
For Bishoph,
((For the other forum readers - this doesn't talk much about weight loss, but rather my journey to treatment for obsessive-compulsive behaviors and thoughts)) :yawn:
I have been clinically diagnosed with ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder), which has as one of its criteria/ diagnostic parameters OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.)
Obsessive thoughts used to plague me. I couldn't "let things go." I went to several therapists, but they suggested exercise, no caffeine, no alcohol, eating a balanced diet. All of which is good advice. The things that pushed me to the counseling were usually acute situations - like divorce, death, miscarriage, loss of job etc. So I didn't stay with counseling after the "crisis" passed, and I had the tools to cope with the issue - usually time would have cured them, and I needed to work through a certain amount of time and talking.
I did get a year's worth of psychological "talk therapy" (from a psychologist) which was helpful and took me back to the childhood issues that were still bothering me in my mid-thirties. She helped me resolve the "Family-of-Origin" problems.
But there were still these obssesive thoughts and behaviors. I didn't wash my hands 400 times a day, or turn on and off the lights a ba-jillion times, or eat an entire chocolate cake and then two chickens and nine cheeseburgers- but even to this day, I won't bring home a large bag/box/container of ANYTHING sweet, or chips, because I will eat them all in a day.
~Do you have "circular thinking"? That was my term for my thought processes. I would grab onto an issue or problem and think about it constantly trying to resolve it - not be able to resolve it - and then start all over thinking about it.
~Are you a perfectionist? Often people with OCD will have to do everything perfectly. Even unimportant things like wrapping a birthday gift, or cleaning the tiles in the shower can take hours.
~Do you find it difficult to sit still: do you fidget frequently - or are you always in motion?
~Do you often procrastinate? Not just sometimes, but OFTEN.
~Do you frequently run out of time when working on something?
~Do you get frustrated easily - or more often than other people in your life?
~Do you "snap" at people when they interrupt your work on a project?
~Do you have trouble staying focused on a task, or do you get distracted easily?
~Do you ever "panic"?
~Do you ever get overwhelmed to the point of having to stop what you are doing in order to "gather your thoughts"?
~Do outside influences, like noise or tv, or other people talking make it difficult for you to concentrate on your task at hand?
~Is it more difficult for you (than it is for others) to learn a task like typing or other repetitive concentration tasks?
If you answered yes to a few of these - read the book "Healing ADD" by Dr. Daniel Amen. Or his book "Change Your Brain, Change Your Life". He is the pre-eminent expert and developer of the brain scans used to diagnose ADD. They both talk about ADD. The "Healing ADD" book has many case studies and photographs of the brain scans done on normal and ADD brains. It is physiological - NOT - psychological. And you don't need to have a brain scan for diagnosis. A doctor will give you a written questionnaire and ask you a few questions. Medication is daily, and works immediately.
It has changed my life to be diagnosed and treated for ADD. I fought against my doctor because I thought that the meds would make me worse. It seems counter-intuitive to give someone who is fidgety and unable to "slow down" a stimulant drug. I am 53 - but I can tell you that I wish someone had diagnosed me at 6 or 7, which is when I started to have trouble in school. I couldn't be quiet, and couldn't sit still, and I was BORED beyond words! Back then - in the early sixties - there wasn't a clinical diagnosis for my behavior. My life is now much better and I enjoy life now - kind of feel cheated out of decades of my life, but grateful to have found relief.
Yikes, I wrote a book here.
Just read everything you can that seems to pertain to your obsessive thoughts. BTW - a therapist can't prescribe meds, you would still need a doctor to prescribe if it is found you need meds. I tried all the anti-anxiety, anti OCD drugs like Xanax, Buspar, Paxil. Didn't help. - Plus I have a variance in my DNA that makes it impossible for me to take certain types of drugs without them building up in my body and becoming toxic: my body doesn't process some drugs due to the lack of a particular CytochromeP450
through which certain drugs are metabolized.
Good luck. Keep seeking answers until you feel better.
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Cheryl:
Thank you so much for sharing. I have written the books down. I have a daughter that has told me she had ADD and I didn't think so, I thought it was just her struggles she had with dyslexia. She is a cracker jack when it comes to working in the bush and makes big money, but she can't handle, well, everything on your list. lol That's why she loves working alone in the bush, nobody to bother her with too much stimulation. When she comes to visit for a week or two, she insists we turn off the t.v. because the noise drives her crazy. At school she used to ask the teacher to separate her from everyone else, so that she could think. And obsessive!!! I'm sure she'd love it that I'm sharing all this. This would be her face. :grumble: Anyway, thanks!0 -
For Cheryl...
I had a hunch you would be a great person to help on this one. Thank you for coming around, reading and offering your experiences and help...
Just goes to show what a good place this is...and what a good person you truly are.0 -
Cheryl:
Thank you so much for sharing. This would be her face. :grumble: Anyway, thanks!
redalee,
If you could convince her to talk to a doctor and (if she needs it) get this very simple, painless medication - virtually no side effects - THIS would be her face :happy:
I have always enjoyed working with animals. They are so nice and quiet. And they are the best housemates!
I had trouble in relationships with people in a HUGE way. I just didn't care if they liked me - I wanted them to stop talking at me. It just seemed pointless.
I always wondered how people could read and have the tv on, or could do homework in a busy cafeteria. Just get me OUT of there. Now, though, I'm so much easier to get along with - and I have been able to be a much more loving person.
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Cheryl: I don't think I'd have much luck ever getting her to a doctor. She has an "I can handle it, mom" attitude. But I know she'd be interested in reading about it and deciding for herself - then it would be her decision and not mom's idea. Thanks again, and I'm going to find the book, Healing ADD.0
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Yeah, Yeah. It was hard for me to get it through my thick -stubborn-independent- who-needs- help-I- don't -need-help head that it is caused by a PHYSICAL brain problem - until I could SEE the difference in the brains of people with normal concentration behavior, and the people with ADD - before and after medication. It is remarkable to see those scans. Dr. Amen has scanned tens of thousands of brains...if you look onthe internet there may be an Amen clinic near you - mostly on the West Coast if I remember correctly.
Amazingly: I joined the gym, and asked for this guy as a trainer and after I had seen him a few times, I mentioned that I had ADD. He had just been diagnosed (mid-30s) and had just started the drugs a month ago!! He sat right down, looked me in the eye and said -"Tell me what it was like for you 'before' you started treatment."
Many people spiral down into drug and alcohol addiction, are unable to hold jobs due to their combative nature and inability to concentrate, and spin in and out of relationships. He spoke of some of his recent problems, and is obviously very upset by what he put his family through for years.
Coincidence? Fate? Grace? Love? All of that.
I hope she will read the books......
cm.
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For Cheryl...
I had a hunch you would be a great person to help on this one. Thank you for coming around, reading and offering your experiences and help...
Just goes to show what a good place this is...and what a good person you truly are.
Hey - I'm not done! Tdrose: I'm having a late snack (because I talk too much....) I made your yogurt/pumpkin thingy, and is it YUMMY! Thanks!
Thanks for the thanks,,,,,,(at what point do we stop......:laugh: )
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Hello and welcome to MFP. You will love this site if you don't already. I love this site, it is so motivational, supportive, helpful, and everyone is so nice, and friendly. I just wanted to tell you good luck on your weight loss journey. You can do this.0
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Cheryl:
Thank you so much for sharing. This would be her face. :grumble: Anyway, thanks!
redalee,
If you could convince her to talk to a doctor and (if she needs it) get this very simple, painless medication - virtually no side effects - THIS would be her face :happy:
I have always enjoyed working with animals. They are so nice and quiet. And they are the best housemates!
I had trouble in relationships with people in a HUGE way. I just didn't care if they liked me - I wanted them to stop talking at me. It just seemed pointless.
I always wondered how people could read and have the tv on, or could do homework in a busy cafeteria. Just get me OUT of there. Now, though, I'm so much easier to get along with - and I have been able to be a much more loving person.
~cm
why are you hiding her?0
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