Does strength exercise ever increase calories for the day?
rachf2013
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When I put in strength training for daily exercise, it never increases my calories for the day. Why not?
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You need to put it in in the cardio section too, I think it goes under strength training in the DB0
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Thanks Coco_mum
It is Strength training (weight lifting, weight training)
I found this article about the benefits of both and the calories it burns: http://www.livestrong.com/article/78970-cardio-exercise-vs.-strength-traininig/.0 -
I mean I put in bicep curls (and triceps, back, chest, etc) in the exercise on this site and it didn't effect my calories. I was just wondering if the site doesn't count that as burning calories or if I'm missing something.0
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You have to search for "strength training" under cardio, sounds silly, but it's set up that way on this site. You do get extra calories for strength training, definitely. Anaerobic exercise burns calories!0
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Sounds like you are using the area to track your weight & reps progress. There is another area to put in calories.0
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You have to enter it under cardio, not strength.
The DB for bicep curls, etc. I believe is to track your reps and weight, but doesn't reflect the calorie burn.0 -
I use an Heart Rate Monitor and place it under cardio, i was just thinking the same thing, i am wondering if maybe i shouldnt eat my exercide calories back since i am not losing weight.0
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I never include strength trainnig in my diary, only cardio. I look at cals burnt doing weight training as a bonus.0
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To properly determine caloric burn, you should invest in an HRM.
The values MFP have are only 'the best guess' and Ill tell ya: after using my HRM for the first time today at the gym.. I compared it to what MFP guessed... what a HUGE difference... almost 150 calories!!!
My HRM was much more accurate....0 -
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I mean I put in bicep curls (and triceps, back, chest, etc) in the exercise on this site and it didn't effect my calories. I was just wondering if the site doesn't count that as burning calories or if I'm missing something.
This site is a little wierd when it comes to that. You can track the calories burned under Cardio, but you can track the number of reps and wieght your doing using the strength Tracker.0 -
150 more burnt than mfp says or less?0
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Ah ok, i looked up strength training under cardio, but you have to know how many calories you burned and I don't. Useless...
I like the idea of just thinking of them as extra weight loss. I just don't want to not eat back those calories and put my body into starvation mode (I'm already down at 1270 cal/day)0 -
Ah ok, i looked up strength training under cardio, but you have to know how many calories you burned and I don't. Useless...
I like the idea of just thinking of them as extra weight loss. I just don't want to not eat back those calories and put my body into starvation mode (I'm already down at 1270 cal/day)
i dont eat back my calories everyday if i can help it....
...i like to save em for my cheat day at the weekend0 -
I mean I put in bicep curls (and triceps, back, chest, etc) in the exercise on this site and it didn't effect my calories. I was just wondering if the site doesn't count that as burning calories or if I'm missing something.
I don't know, but I wonder if it's got to do with the whole muscle being denser than fat issue...
You are burning fat, but you are INCREASING you muscle mass (which weighs more per cubic inch than fat), so while you maybe getting THINNER you may not be getting any LIGHTER... So calories burned would not contribute toward weight loss.... Does this make sense to anybody else? I really just made this up trying to figure it out.0 -
Ah ok, i looked up strength training under cardio, but you have to know how many calories you burned and I don't. Useless...
I like the idea of just thinking of them as extra weight loss. I just don't want to not eat back those calories and put my body into starvation mode (I'm already down at 1270 cal/day)
You need an HRM to learn about a truer caloric burn, otherwise you will need to be good at estimating.0 -
if you really want to earn "eating" calories.. do cardio.. your strength training is more for you to tone your body.. cardio is what really earns you more to eat.0
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Ah ok, i looked up strength training under cardio, but you have to know how many calories you burned and I don't. Useless...
I like the idea of just thinking of them as extra weight loss. I just don't want to not eat back those calories and put my body into starvation mode (I'm already down at 1270 cal/day)
i dont eat back my calories everyday if i can help it....
...i like to save em for my cheat day at the weekend
That's not a bad idea, but I tend not to allow myself a cheat day.0 -
if you really want to earn "eating" calories.. do cardio.. your strength training is more for you to tone your body.. cardio is what really earns you more to eat.
Yea, I do cardio every other day. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't burning a whole bunch of calories on the days I do strength and not eating them back0 -
the idea of eating back calories is to allow you to reach your nutritional goals.
ie, burning 200 cals on the treadmill means you can then have that protien shake to hit your protien goal for that day and still be under target overall, or thats my take on it.
i dont eat back the majority of mine for the reason above, and because i guess all my weights of food, so cals burnt will make up for any misjudgements on my part.....
...kind of like an insurance against cocking up0 -
I mean I put in bicep curls (and triceps, back, chest, etc) in the exercise on this site and it didn't effect my calories. I was just wondering if the site doesn't count that as burning calories or if I'm missing something.
I don't know, but I wonder if it's got to do with the whole muscle being denser than fat issue...
You are burning fat, but you are INCREASING you muscle mass (which weighs more per cubic inch than fat), so while you maybe getting THINNER you may not be getting any LIGHTER... So calories burned would not contribute toward weight loss.... Does this make sense to anybody else? I really just made this up trying to figure it out.
No, it's simply the way MFP sets up their system. Calories burned is listed under cardio, weights and reps under strength.
Also, to correct something you mentioned (I understand you're just stumbling through...that's ok!), you're never actually going to gain muscle while eating at a calorie deficit. Yes, you can firm your existing muscle, yes, sometimes this makes it look 'bigger' (along with cellular swelling from water retention)...but you didn't actually gain anything.0 -
I've read articles that have said that the notion that strength training will turn the ordinary person's body into into a 24/7 calorie-blasting furnace is major hype. There's apparently a modest increase in calorie burning capacity that lasts for a short time after exercise.
This is NOT to say that strength training isn't important. As someone else said, cardio may give you more bang for the buck if you want to eat more.0 -
I've read articles that have said that the notion that strength training will turn the ordinary person's body into into a 24/7 calorie-blasting furnace is major hype. There's apparently a modest increase in calorie burning capacity that lasts for a short time after exercise.
This is NOT to say that strength training isn't important. As someone else said, cardio may give you more bang for the buck if you want to eat more.
The thing about it is this...cardio doesn't give the same kind of hormonal response that heavy strength training gives. Calories in vs calories out is the ONLY thing that matters for weight loss, but there's some VERY real benifits to fat loss with strength training that you just don't get with cardio.0 -
I mean I put in bicep curls (and triceps, back, chest, etc) in the exercise on this site and it didn't effect my calories. I was just wondering if the site doesn't count that as burning calories or if I'm missing something.
I don't know, but I wonder if it's got to do with the whole muscle being denser than fat issue...
You are burning fat, but you are INCREASING you muscle mass (which weighs more per cubic inch than fat), so while you maybe getting THINNER you may not be getting any LIGHTER... So calories burned would not contribute toward weight loss.... Does this make sense to anybody else? I really just made this up trying to figure it out.
No, it's simply the way MFP sets up their system. Calories burned is listed under cardio, weights and reps under strength.
Also, to correct something you mentioned (I understand you're just stumbling through...that's ok!), you're never actually going to gain muscle while eating at a calorie deficit. Yes, you can firm your existing muscle, yes, sometimes this makes it look 'bigger' (along with cellular swelling from water retention)...but you didn't actually gain anything.
Thanks,
I gotta a question re:you're never actually going to gain muscle while eating at a calorie deficit.
I'm just trying to figure things out from my past experience.
When ever I came off of a sedentary spell and threw myself into activity. (winter --> summer)
I wasn't intentionally dieting...
I'd always gain 5 lbs in the first few weeks, then lose 5 lbs in the few weeks after that. I always sort of assume it was muscle increase, followed by fat decrease. I'd end up the same weight, but be a more compact me.0 -
I mean I put in bicep curls (and triceps, back, chest, etc) in the exercise on this site and it didn't effect my calories. I was just wondering if the site doesn't count that as burning calories or if I'm missing something.
I don't know, but I wonder if it's got to do with the whole muscle being denser than fat issue...
You are burning fat, but you are INCREASING you muscle mass (which weighs more per cubic inch than fat), so while you maybe getting THINNER you may not be getting any LIGHTER... So calories burned would not contribute toward weight loss.... Does this make sense to anybody else? I really just made this up trying to figure it out.
No, it's simply the way MFP sets up their system. Calories burned is listed under cardio, weights and reps under strength.
Also, to correct something you mentioned (I understand you're just stumbling through...that's ok!), you're never actually going to gain muscle while eating at a calorie deficit. Yes, you can firm your existing muscle, yes, sometimes this makes it look 'bigger' (along with cellular swelling from water retention)...but you didn't actually gain anything.
Thanks,
I gotta a question re:you're never actually going to gain muscle while eating at a calorie deficit.
I'm just trying to figure things out from my past experience.
When ever I came off of a sedentary spell and threw myself into activity. (winter --> summer)
I wasn't intentionally dieting...
I'd always gain 5 lbs in the first few weeks, then lose 5 lbs in the few weeks after that. I always sort of assume it was muscle increase, followed by fat decrease. I'd end up the same weight, but be a more compact me.
Maintenance is still going to act like a deficit unless your calculations are way off and you're overfeeding.
That weght you gain in the first few weeks is just your body holding onto water to repair/destress the muscles. Picture your muscles swelling with water (like a dry sponge when you get it wet) on a cellular level, and you'll get the idea. Often this is why girls think they've gained muscle too, those mucles can look visibly bigger.0 -
i've had the same ???0
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Strength training you have to add under cardio too. Also if you have an hrm monitor it is best to use that when you are doing your stregth training to get an accurate calorie burn.0
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I mean I put in bicep curls (and triceps, back, chest, etc) in the exercise on this site and it didn't effect my calories. I was just wondering if the site doesn't count that as burning calories or if I'm missing something.
I don't know, but I wonder if it's got to do with the whole muscle being denser than fat issue...
You are burning fat, but you are INCREASING you muscle mass (which weighs more per cubic inch than fat), so while you maybe getting THINNER you may not be getting any LIGHTER... So calories burned would not contribute toward weight loss.... Does this make sense to anybody else? I really just made this up trying to figure it out.
No, it's simply the way MFP sets up their system. Calories burned is listed under cardio, weights and reps under strength.
Also, to correct something you mentioned (I understand you're just stumbling through...that's ok!), you're never actually going to gain muscle while eating at a calorie deficit. Yes, you can firm your existing muscle, yes, sometimes this makes it look 'bigger' (along with cellular swelling from water retention)...but you didn't actually gain anything.
Thanks,
I gotta a question re:you're never actually going to gain muscle while eating at a calorie deficit.
I'm just trying to figure things out from my past experience.
When ever I came off of a sedentary spell and threw myself into activity. (winter --> summer)
I wasn't intentionally dieting...
I'd always gain 5 lbs in the first few weeks, then lose 5 lbs in the few weeks after that. I always sort of assume it was muscle increase, followed by fat decrease. I'd end up the same weight, but be a more compact me.
Maintenance is still going to act like a deficit unless your calculations are way off and you're overfeeding.
That weght you gain in the first few weeks is just your body holding onto water to repair/destress the muscles. Picture your muscles swelling with water (like a dry sponge when you get it wet) on a cellular level, and you'll get the idea. Often this is why girls think they've gained muscle too, those mucles can look visibly bigger.
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