HOW THE HECK DO THESE PEOPLE GET HIRED?!
christina_michelle
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This guy who says he's a "trainer" knows nothing about fitness and diet! and is trying to give me advice -____- sad thing is he could get a few lessons from these forums or at least the google machine to learn proper nutrition and fitness!
He's seriously telling me that i'm not losing weight cause i'm eating too much....excuse me? I have not been eating enough!! I am burning at least 400 calories everyday (I know I've been burning more, but I lost my heart rate monitor, so I now follow the machine) and only eating 1,200 calories! So my body is trying to store the fat and trade the muscle into fat because it thinks i'm starving!
AND now he just told me I shouldn't eat any bread or fruit..ever?...He says to eat less than 40 carbs a day...has he taken a nutrition class?! No carbs = no energy. You don't get energy from protein or anything like that. You get them from carbs! A low carb diet is what it is.. A DIET. yeah you'll lose weight, but you'll also lose energy..
It seems like anyone can get a license nowadays...bleck! That was my rant for the night...
This guy on facebook should NOT be a trainer.
He's seriously telling me that i'm not losing weight cause i'm eating too much....excuse me? I have not been eating enough!! I am burning at least 400 calories everyday (I know I've been burning more, but I lost my heart rate monitor, so I now follow the machine) and only eating 1,200 calories! So my body is trying to store the fat and trade the muscle into fat because it thinks i'm starving!
AND now he just told me I shouldn't eat any bread or fruit..ever?...He says to eat less than 40 carbs a day...has he taken a nutrition class?! No carbs = no energy. You don't get energy from protein or anything like that. You get them from carbs! A low carb diet is what it is.. A DIET. yeah you'll lose weight, but you'll also lose energy..
It seems like anyone can get a license nowadays...bleck! That was my rant for the night...
This guy on facebook should NOT be a trainer.
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He's certified and credentialed in Broscience! :laugh:0
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That's actually really concerning that he told you you're eating too much when you're netting like 800 a day. You're right, you need to eat a lot MORE! Is there anyone you could report that to? If he said that to the wrong person it could encourage an ED or similar behavior
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That's disturbing. How can you have so much false information and still be a trainer? O_o0
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Pretty scary advice, I'm gload you aren't listening to it!
Are you paying him or is this unsolicited advice on Facebook?
If you're paying him, I'd sack him on the spot, but if it's Facebook advice - well, I wouldn't take that from anyone, no matter how "qualified" they claimed to be.0 -
Trainers have no business giving nutrition advice. They aren't dieticians, who, unlike trainers, are actually trained formally in nutritional science.
They should stick to exercise advice.0 -
He's certified and credentialed in Broscience! :laugh:
LMFAO!!!! That explains half the guys in Orange County, CA!0 -
That's actually really concerning that he told you you're eating too much when you're netting like 800 a day. You're right, you need to eat a lot MORE! Is there anyone you could report that too? If he said that to the wrong person it could encourage an ED or similar behavior
Not really he works at a cross-fit place (even worse cause they probably burn between 500 -1,000 calories per workout) and I go to the gym!
BTW, I RUN 3.25 - 4 miles a day plus weights!!! So i'm burning at least 450 calories...he says that's why i'm not losing weight cause I'm not doing HIIT....i'm training for a 10k, mind that I started out only being able to run 5 minutes at a time, with three minute walking breaks and now i'm up to 10 minutes at a time with only 2 minute breaks!0 -
Actually that is pretty much what my trainer told me. Well except in my nutrition plan I do get one apple a day. As women we are only supposed to have 22 grams of sugar which is nothing. Sugar is in everything!!! I couldn't believe how much I would go over just from journaling before I got my nutrition plan. He does have me eat healthy carbs like oatmeal for breakfast and kidney beans in my salad. His clients have gotten amazing results with working with him. That why I choose him. Also you could be building muscle and that's why you aren't losing weight. My trainer is all about measurements and watching my body fat go down, not weight necessarily as he wants me building up muscle. Again I totally trust him and if you saw his body, and his clients transformations you wouldn't even question it. He has helped many women train for their WBFF Pro cards. He also does not have me eat more than 1,200 calories even when I burn a lot working out with him. He said once I get more to my goal body fat then he will start adding more foods/calories back in.0
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PS - are you doing any weight training? That is more important as you want to build muscle which will burn more fat.0
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That is nuts!!!! At least you have enough brains to know different! I can't imagine the poor people out there that maybe listening to this. Did you say anything? Talk to a manager?0
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Actually that is pretty much what my trainer told me. Well except in my nutrition plan I do get one apple a day. As women we are only supposed to have 22 grams of sugar which is nothing. Sugar is in everything!!! I couldn't believe how much I would go over just from journaling before I got my nutrition plan. He does have me eat healthy carbs like oatmeal for breakfast and kidney beans in my salad. His clients have gotten amazing results with working with him. That why I choose him. Also you could be building muscle and that's why you aren't losing weight. My trainer is all about measurements and watching my body fat go down, not weight necessarily as he wants me building up muscle. Again I totally trust him and if you saw his body, and his clients transformations you wouldn't even question it. He has helped many women train for their WBFF Pro cards. He also does not have me eat more than 1,200 calories even when I burn a lot working out with him. He said once I get more to my goal body fat then he will start adding more foods/calories back in.
See, he says NO OATMEAL at all nothing. ZERO. only carbs from meat and veggies...plus I lost 10 lbs eating 1700 calories a day while working out before..
I trust my brother the most...he has only 4% body fat, is the healthiest man i've ever seen...he runs between 13-18 miles a day! (he's on his army's marathon team) and he also eats about 6,000 calories a day...he says if you don't then your body turns your muscle into fat, to conserve...
I'm glad that it is working for you however!0 -
PS - are you doing any weight training? That is more important as you want to build muscle which will burn more fat.
Yup
I switch back and forth, arms and legs! I follow this program on bodybuilding.com with Jamie Easton! I love it! 0 -
Fitness Instructor =/= Nutritionist0
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Completely agree with you, but unfortunately a fitness trainer is not certified in nutrition whatsoever (it's part of my college course) . But still, as a health and fitness advocate, he should have the basic knowledge baha
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Trainer qualifications seem to come in cornflakes packets these days.
I had a couple of sessions at a big name (in Australia) gym with one of their trainers. This was some years ago now, before I got serious and did all the research myself. I was quite shocked at the time to discover that even back then, I actually knew more than him. I think there are great ones and crappy ones, same as most other jobs.
I don't know what it's like in other countries, but in Australia it seems to me there needs to be some regulation in the industry, especially regarding qualifications. Too many trainers here appear to have learned everything they know from watching the biggest loser or some UFC training DVD.0 -
Not really he works at a cross-fit place (even worse cause they probably burn between 500 -1,000 calories per workout) and I go to the gym!
BTW, I RUN 3.25 - 4 miles a day plus weights!!! So i'm burning at least 450 calories...he says that's why i'm not losing weight cause I'm not doing HIIT....i'm training for a 10k, mind that I started out only being able to run 5 minutes at a time, with three minute walking breaks and now i'm up to 10 minutes at a time with only 2 minute breaks!
I know this is not the point of your post, but I happened to be reading and this ^^ concerned me. I am wondering if you're not losing weight because you're not eating enough. Would you be open-minded enough to try eating a few hundred more calories per day? At least eat back half of what you're burning through exercise... your body does need fuel to operate :-) Eat what keeps YOU satisfied and healthy, not what some muscle-head says you can/can't eat :-)0 -
Trail Addict = new best friend.. JUST FOR THISFitness Instructor =/= Nutritionist
It is formatted in the EXACT way I was planning on responding until I saw yours. (expect I was going to use trainer instead of instructor.)
I'm so glad that my trainer pretty much gave me a rough "500 less calories, 500 calories burned through cardio"
When I told him how many I was eating, and how many I was burning, and how much weight I've lost, he revised to "don't listen to me, you're doing fine. That's for people that haven't changed eating habits yet."
I just want it noted that all the trainers at 24 fitness wear redshirts... You know what they say about red shirts...0 -
Not really he works at a cross-fit place (even worse cause they probably burn between 500 -1,000 calories per workout) and I go to the gym!
BTW, I RUN 3.25 - 4 miles a day plus weights!!! So i'm burning at least 450 calories...he says that's why i'm not losing weight cause I'm not doing HIIT....i'm training for a 10k, mind that I started out only being able to run 5 minutes at a time, with three minute walking breaks and now i'm up to 10 minutes at a time with only 2 minute breaks!
I know this is not the point of your post, but I happened to be reading and this ^^ concerned me. I am wondering if you're not losing weight because you're not eating enough. Would you be open-minded enough to try eating a few hundred more calories per day? At least eat back half of what you're burning through exercise... your body does need fuel to operate :-) Eat what keeps YOU satisfied and healthy, not what some muscle-head says you can/can't eat :-)
yes! if you look at the beginning of the post, this is what i'm saying! I need to eat more!!! haha, I lost more weight while I was in school eating 1,700 calories a day!! But i've been waking up super late since i'm on summer (like noon) but staying up till like 2:30 -3 am...but stop eating by 9pm! I need to get back to my normal sleeping routine! 0 -
I love Jamie Eason. She's my hero. Yeah you definitely need carbs. When I first met with my trainer he said I wasn't eating enough of them and had me add in the oatmeal for breakfast and kidney beans in my salad. I think there are some trainers out there that do know nutrition and some that for sure don't lol! You should check him out on Facebook. He is amazing! Tim Gorham Fitness. He's really nice and cares about people's health more than the person he is helping sometimes as he has fired some of his clients that won't commit. He would probably take a look at your plan and goals and point you in the right direction. Congrats on all the good things you are doing for your body!0
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Runners need to eat some carbs. I was raised by a semi-professional runner/triathlete... she's won a crap-ton of races in her life and although it's always whole grains, beans, or fruit trust me when I say, SHE EATS THEM! She is also half my size. A trainer could feed me any sort of bs they want, heavy cardio needs to be balanced out with some healthy carbs.0
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I love Jamie Eason. She's my hero. Yeah you definitely need carbs. When I first met with my trainer he said I wasn't eating enough of them and had me add in the oatmeal for breakfast and kidney beans in my salad. I think there are some trainers out there that do know nutrition and some that for sure don't lol! You should check him out on Facebook. He is amazing! Tim Gorham Fitness. He's really nice and cares about people's health more than the person he is helping sometimes as he has fired some of his clients that won't commit. He would probably take a look at your plan and goals and point you in the right direction. Congrats on all the good things you are doing for your body!
Thank you! I will for sure check him out, and if I don't lose weight these next two weeks I will be fb'ing him 0 -
I believe that lots of "new" trainers have been led down the road of money making more than actual fitness. I swear that practically every new trainer that I've run into insists on instructing in "functional training" and have so many using unstable services, concentrating on planks, and totally dismissing some of the "old school" basic lifting and strengthening exercises. Body bars with resistance bands being stepped on (total resistance of about 30lbs) are replacing the barbell and Oly bar. It's a different time now.
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One thing - everything you eat that contains calories will provide your body energy through your body's many metabolic pathways. Glucose is a carbohydrate and central to your body's normal metabolism. Your body is adept at maintaining blood glucose levels because it is the default delivery molecule of energy for most body tissues and required by a few (red + white blood cells, retina cells, some kidney cells, and some neural signaling).
However, even if you eat no carbs, your body can make glucose from many other molecules - proteins, metabolic intermediates, and even the backbone of fatty acids (glycerol) through a process called gluconeogenesis (=making new glucose).
You'd have to be eating virtually no carbs (<20g/ day) in order for your body to start cranking out alternative energy carriers at a greater rate than glucose. Ketogenic diets - the result of low/no carb intake and therefore a general switch by your body to using ketone bodies as the predominant circulating energy carrier - is used to treat epilepsy, components of metabolic syndrome, and some cancers. Even in a ketogenic state (unless it's induced in a person that already has metabolic dysfunction, such as a diabetic), you generate enough glucose through gluconeogenesis to supply the cells that require it.
All this to say: Carbs are not required in the diet because we can synthesize them by our own metabolic reactions. Some fatty acids (essential fatty acids) and amino acids (essential amino acids, found in proteins) are required in our diets because our bodies don't have the enzymes to synthesize the molecules on their our.0 -
One thing you should know about the fitness advice put forth by MANY cross fitters is that usually it is driven by a Paleo (or Paleo inspired) lifestyle. Paleo excludes gluten, dairy, alcohol, and sugar from each day's intake. (Maybe that's why his advice seemed to be QUITE different)?
The reason many people adhere to the pale lifestyle is because they believe gluten, dairy, and sugar wreak havoc on your body (inside and out). They say people have only recently developed gluten and included these foods into their lifestyle and that it's actually not what the human body is used to or needs.
You can decide on your own what you think, but this instructor was spouting advice directly from the Paleo lifestyle. That's why he says no/few apples (or sugar), oatmeal (and bread/pasta), and wants you to get carbs from vegetables. Many people have GREAT success from this diet. I have a body builder friend Mitch that eats 80% paleo and feels MUCH better. Gina, a friend from college lost 11 pounds in one month of doing CrossFit and eating Paleo. This is her blog. http://paleodietlifestyle.com/paleo-diet-food-list/
I live in China and it's verrrrry hard to eat Paleo, but I like the basis on this lifestyle because I LOVE eating whole and unprocessed foods. Plus, dairy makes me break out. Ultimately, they encourage organic, wild (grass-fed) meat, eggs, vegetables, fish, few fruits, few nuts, eggs. You can eat rice, but the biggest part of your diet should be veggies and proteins.
You are correct in saying 1200 is too low for how much you are working out. Not sure what he meant by you are eating too much?! That's a bit out there...
Here's what I recommend reading: http://www.archevore.com/get-started/.
Hope this helps clarify!0 -
One thing you should know about the fitness advice put forth by MANY cross fitters is that usually it is driven by a Paleo (or Paleo inspired) lifestyle. Paleo excludes gluten, dairy, alcohol, and sugar from each day's intake. (Maybe that's why his advice seemed to be QUITE different)?
The reason many people adhere to the pale lifestyle is because they believe gluten, dairy, and sugar wreak havoc on your body (inside and out). They say people have only recently developed gluten and included these foods into their lifestyle and that it's actually not what the human body is used to or needs.
You can decide on your own what you think, but this instructor was spouting advice directly from the Paleo lifestyle. That's why he says no/few apples (or sugar), oatmeal (and bread/pasta), and wants you to get carbs from vegetables. Many people have GREAT success from this diet. I have a body builder friend Mitch that eats 80% paleo and feels MUCH better. Gina, a friend from college lost 11 pounds in one month of doing CrossFit and eating Paleo. This is her blog. http://paleodietlifestyle.com/paleo-diet-food-list/
I live in China and it's verrrrry hard to eat Paleo, but I like the basis on this lifestyle because I LOVE eating whole and unprocessed foods. Plus, dairy makes me break out. Ultimately, they encourage organic, wild (grass-fed) meat, eggs, vegetables, fish, few fruits, few nuts, eggs. You can eat rice, but the biggest part of your diet should be veggies and proteins.
You are correct in saying 1200 is too low for how much you are working out. Not sure what he meant by you are eating too much?! That's a bit out there...
Here's what I recommend reading: http://www.archevore.com/get-started/.
Hope this helps clarify!
I will read that! But yes he said thats how many calories I should eat! I do enjoy the idea of Paleo; however, I don't eat a lot of refined sugars - just a few treats! Especially with my age (I'm in my 20s) with friends and all, I can't realistically think of going Paleo though...However I do try to eat lots of veggies, egg whites, and protein!0 -
One thing you should know about the fitness advice put forth by MANY cross fitters is that usually it is driven by a Paleo (or Paleo inspired) lifestyle. Paleo excludes gluten, dairy, alcohol, and sugar from each day's intake. (Maybe that's why his advice seemed to be QUITE different)?
The reason many people adhere to the pale lifestyle is because they believe gluten, dairy, and sugar wreak havoc on your body (inside and out). They say people have only recently developed gluten and included these foods into their lifestyle and that it's actually not what the human body is used to or needs.
You can decide on your own what you think, but this instructor was spouting advice directly from the Paleo lifestyle. That's why he says no/few apples (or sugar), oatmeal (and bread/pasta), and wants you to get carbs from vegetables. Many people have GREAT success from this diet. I have a body builder friend Mitch that eats 80% paleo and feels MUCH better. Gina, a friend from college lost 11 pounds in one month of doing CrossFit and eating Paleo. This is her blog. http://paleodietlifestyle.com/paleo-diet-food-list/
I live in China and it's verrrrry hard to eat Paleo, but I like the basis on this lifestyle because I LOVE eating whole and unprocessed foods. Plus, dairy makes me break out. Ultimately, they encourage organic, wild (grass-fed) meat, eggs, vegetables, fish, few fruits, few nuts, eggs. You can eat rice, but the biggest part of your diet should be veggies and proteins.
You are correct in saying 1200 is too low for how much you are working out. Not sure what he meant by you are eating too much?! That's a bit out there...
Here's what I recommend reading: http://www.archevore.com/get-started/.
Hope this helps clarify!
I will read that! But yes he said thats how many calories I should eat! I do enjoy the idea of Paleo; however, I don't eat a lot of refined sugars - just a few treats! Especially with my age (I'm in my 20s) with friends and all, I can't realistically think of going Paleo though...However I do try to eat lots of veggies, egg whites, and protein!
I know! The idea of going 100% Paleo is completely impossible. That's why many of my friends eat Paleo 80% of the time. They exclude drinks on the weekends and some weekend meals etc... Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders. (I'm all about whole foods, but not giving up the things I love, in moderation!) 0 -
This guy who says he's a "trainer" knows nothing about fitness and diet! and is trying to give me advice -____- sad thing is he could get a few lessons from these forums or at least the google machine to learn proper nutrition and fitness!
He's seriously telling me that i'm not losing weight cause i'm eating too much....excuse me? I have not been eating enough!! I am burning at least 400 calories everyday (I know I've been burning more, but I lost my heart rate monitor, so I now follow the machine) and only eating 1,200 calories! So my body is trying to store the fat and trade the muscle into fat because it thinks i'm starving!
AND now he just told me I shouldn't eat any bread or fruit..ever?...He says to eat less than 40 carbs a day...has he taken a nutrition class?! No carbs = no energy. You don't get energy from protein or anything like that. You get them from carbs! A low carb diet is what it is.. A DIET. yeah you'll lose weight, but you'll also lose energy..
It seems like anyone can get a license nowadays...bleck! That was my rant for the night...
This guy on facebook should NOT be a trainer.
as if i needed another reason to never ever 'hire' a personal trainer...0 -
Personal trainers aren't supposed to give nutritional advise, unless they also became a certified nutritionist. It might be different in other states, but that's what my friend the personal trainer told me when i asked him for nutritional advise.
ANYONE who tells you not to eat fruit is someone to not listen to.0 -
I do agree that when you are getting down to those last few pounds you need to really do something drastic to make your body burn it. have you ever tried carb cycling, it is tough but it works for short periods of time. It means you don't cut out carbs all the time but you do some of the time. Certainly i find I have to seriously limit bread and fruit intake if I want to lose weight - you need to eat right for your body type.
you might need a good cheat day or a diet break0 -
One thing you should know about the fitness advice put forth by MANY cross fitters is that usually it is driven by a Paleo (or Paleo inspired) lifestyle. Paleo excludes gluten, dairy, alcohol, and sugar from each day's intake. (Maybe that's why his advice seemed to be QUITE different)?
The reason many people adhere to the pale lifestyle is because they believe gluten, dairy, and sugar wreak havoc on your body (inside and out). They say people have only recently developed gluten and included these foods into their lifestyle and that it's actually not what the human body is used to or needs.
You can decide on your own what you think, but this instructor was spouting advice directly from the Paleo lifestyle. That's why he says no/few apples (or sugar), oatmeal (and bread/pasta), and wants you to get carbs from vegetables. Many people have GREAT success from this diet. I have a body builder friend Mitch that eats 80% paleo and feels MUCH better. Gina, a friend from college lost 11 pounds in one month of doing CrossFit and eating Paleo. This is her blog. http://paleodietlifestyle.com/paleo-diet-food-list/
I live in China and it's verrrrry hard to eat Paleo, but I like the basis on this lifestyle because I LOVE eating whole and unprocessed foods. Plus, dairy makes me break out. Ultimately, they encourage organic, wild (grass-fed) meat, eggs, vegetables, fish, few fruits, few nuts, eggs. You can eat rice, but the biggest part of your diet should be veggies and proteins.
You are correct in saying 1200 is too low for how much you are working out. Not sure what he meant by you are eating too much?! That's a bit out there...
Here's what I recommend reading: http://www.archevore.com/get-started/.
Hope this helps clarify!
I will read that! But yes he said thats how many calories I should eat! I do enjoy the idea of Paleo; however, I don't eat a lot of refined sugars - just a few treats! Especially with my age (I'm in my 20s) with friends and all, I can't realistically think of going Paleo though...However I do try to eat lots of veggies, egg whites, and protein!
One thing I would love to add is, that I myself train quite a lot ( 5k run 3xweek, 10 mile cycle 4xweek + 6xweek body pump for about an hour) and do not eat any carbs or sugar - I am in ketogenic state (someone explained it well in a post here) and have lots of energy to work out. The first few days (about 3) you feel really rubish when you give up sugars but after a week you have new found energy which is so much better.
The general rule of thumb when it comes to calorie consuption is: If you weight 120 pounds you shouldn't eat less than 1200 calories a day and this for me makes sence, as when you loose weight your calorie intake also goes down.
I just got back on the horse after operation and have lost 16 pounds in three weeks, but the weight isn't everything - measure yourself, take some photos and measure your body fat - when you do all that then you see the real changes that are actually happening to your body.
Hope that will help.0
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