HOW THE HECK DO THESE PEOPLE GET HIRED?!
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ANYONE who tells you not to eat fruit is someone to not listen to.
I respectfuly disagree!!!
We actualy don't need fruit ( it is full of sugar). It has vitamins, minerals and fiber which you can find in aboundance in vegetables, which are lower in calories and sugar. Lets be honest, if you don't eat either it's better if you at least eat some fruit beacause it teast better, that's why it's being rcomendet to nation of people who eats rubbish. But actually you are much better off with veg.
What we do need is good source of fat, so anyone recommending low fat diet is not doing you any favour! Our brain is 2/3 fat and feeds on omega fatty acids. Personally, I recomend linseed and cold press linseed oil.0 -
I dont know how many people out of work I've heard say 'oh I think I might go be a trainer'. My friends brother just got hired as a trainer. Guess what his credentials were, he's a mechanic and goes to the gym all the time. How does that qualify him to be trainer.0
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I dont know how many people out of work I've heard say 'oh I think I might go be a trainer'. My friends brother just got hired as a trainer. Guess what his credentials were, he's a mechanic and goes to the gym all the time. How does that qualify him to be trainer.
There is a difference between trainer and nutritionist!
If your brother's friend is well built (I assume he is, since he goes to the gym all the time) and knows what he is doing why not. Obviously he must know something about trainig if he looks good. And it's not a rocket science if you have done it for a while - you just need some knowlegde about muscle groups and how to use them to achive your goal.
Nutrition on the other hand is way more complicated. More than that, we get different advise from different dietetitians, as we all have to figure out what actually works for us,we just have to try certain things and see if it works for us and if we can keep it up.
If you ask a trainer about nutrition advise their answear will not be reliable - they will tell you what worked for them not what is good for you. You might as well ask about diet advise your car mechanic.
As we all have different goals, we all need different advise.
Trainer will give you workout program desined for your needs.
You wouldn't ask for a fitness program dietetitian, would you? Their advice will be useless and vague, probably more cardio. If you have specific goal in mind - leaner legs, perkier boobs, spankable *kitten* you need specific program from a trainer.
Those are two different professions!0 -
Sorry but I'll disagree here. Just because someone knows how to lift, workout, and get in shape themselves, DOESN'T mean they would be a good trainer.I dont know how many people out of work I've heard say 'oh I think I might go be a trainer'. My friends brother just got hired as a trainer. Guess what his credentials were, he's a mechanic and goes to the gym all the time. How does that qualify him to be trainer.
There is a difference between trainer and nutritionist!
If your brother's friend is well built (I assume he is, since he goes to the gym all the time) and knows what he is doing why not. Obviously he must know something about trainig if he looks good. And it's not a rocket science if you have done it for a while - you just need some knowlegde about muscle groups and how to use them to achive your goal.
Nutrition on the other hand is way more complicated. More than that, we get different advise from different dietetitians, as we all have to figure out what actually works for us,we just have to try certain things and see if it works for us and if we can keep it up.
If you ask a trainer about nutrition advise their answear will not be reliable - they will tell you what worked for them not what is good for you. You might as well ask about diet advise your car mechanic.
As we all have different goals, we all need different advise.
Trainer will give you workout program desined for your needs.
You wouldn't ask for a fitness program dietetitian, would you? Their advice will be useless and vague, probably more cardio. If you have specific goal in mind - leaner legs, perkier boobs, spankable *kitten* you need specific program from a trainer.
Those are two different professions!
Almost every "transitional" new trainer I've seen does the same thing when they first start...................they have all their clients do THEIR workout.
Their workout isn't made for many of the clients workouts. Sure there are some basics like squats and rows, but not everyone is going to be able to do pullups, snatches, etc.
I've seen many a trainer like this have the SAME program and train every client with the SAME program whether they be young or old.
Not to mention, many of the lifters only trainers have no concept on training in plyometrics, HIIT, Tabata, etc. because they don't do it themselves. Even without this knowledge, they could get a cert.
While it's not that they can't learn it, lots of "transitional" trainers stick to workouts that they know personally and that's usually not the best program for many clients.
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This guy who says he's a "trainer" knows nothing about fitness and diet! and is trying to give me advice -____- sad thing is he could get a few lessons from these forums or at least the google machine to learn proper nutrition and fitness!
He's seriously telling me that i'm not losing weight cause i'm eating too much....excuse me? I have not been eating enough!! I am burning at least 400 calories everyday (I know I've been burning more, but I lost my heart rate monitor, so I now follow the machine) and only eating 1,200 calories! So my body is trying to store the fat and trade the muscle into fat because it thinks i'm starving!
AND now he just told me I shouldn't eat any bread or fruit..ever?...He says to eat less than 40 carbs a day...has he taken a nutrition class?! No carbs = no energy. You don't get energy from protein or anything like that. You get them from carbs! A low carb diet is what it is.. A DIET. yeah you'll lose weight, but you'll also lose energy..
It seems like anyone can get a license nowadays...bleck! That was my rant for the night...
This guy on facebook should NOT be a trainer.
He's right on the bread, wrong on the fruit.
If you know you're not eating enough, why aren't you eating more?0 -
One thing - everything you eat that contains calories will provide your body energy through your body's many metabolic pathways. Glucose is a carbohydrate and central to your body's normal metabolism. Your body is adept at maintaining blood glucose levels because it is the default delivery molecule of energy for most body tissues and required by a few (red + white blood cells, retina cells, some kidney cells, and some neural signaling).
However, even if you eat no carbs, your body can make glucose from many other molecules - proteins, metabolic intermediates, and even the backbone of fatty acids (glycerol) through a process called gluconeogenesis (=making new glucose).
You'd have to be eating virtually no carbs (<20g/ day) in order for your body to start cranking out alternative energy carriers at a greater rate than glucose. Ketogenic diets - the result of low/no carb intake and therefore a general switch by your body to using ketone bodies as the predominant circulating energy carrier - is used to treat epilepsy, components of metabolic syndrome, and some cancers. Even in a ketogenic state (unless it's induced in a person that already has metabolic dysfunction, such as a diabetic), you generate enough glucose through gluconeogenesis to supply the cells that require it.
All this to say: Carbs are not required in the diet because we can synthesize them by our own metabolic reactions. Some fatty acids (essential fatty acids) and amino acids (essential amino acids, found in proteins) are required in our diets because our bodies don't have the enzymes to synthesize the molecules on their our.
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This guy who says he's a "trainer" knows nothing about fitness and diet! and is trying to give me advice -____- sad thing is he could get a few lessons from these forums or at least the google machine to learn proper nutrition and fitness!
He's seriously telling me that i'm not losing weight cause i'm eating too much....excuse me? I have not been eating enough!! I am burning at least 400 calories everyday (I know I've been burning more, but I lost my heart rate monitor, so I now follow the machine) and only eating 1,200 calories! So my body is trying to store the fat and trade the muscle into fat because it thinks i'm starving!
AND now he just told me I shouldn't eat any bread or fruit..ever?...He says to eat less than 40 carbs a day...has he taken a nutrition class?! No carbs = no energy. You don't get energy from protein or anything like that. You get them from carbs! A low carb diet is what it is.. A DIET. yeah you'll lose weight, but you'll also lose energy..
It seems like anyone can get a license nowadays...bleck! That was my rant for the night...
This guy on facebook should NOT be a trainer.
Three things make up calories (which are energy):
Carbs
Fats
Protein
You get energy from more than carbs. You need to balance.
I highly recommend not bashing people unless you understand yourself that you don't only get energy from carbs.
Also, personal trainers are not the best for nutrition advice. They get bits and pieces. Honestly, other than a certified nutritionist, nurses get a ton of nutrition training. So those are my two go-to professions if you want questions answered.0 -
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Sorry but I'll disagree here. Just because someone knows how to lift, workout, and get in shape themselves, DOESN'T mean they would be a good trainer.I dont know how many people out of work I've heard say 'oh I think I might go be a trainer'. My friends brother just got hired as a trainer. Guess what his credentials were, he's a mechanic and goes to the gym all the time. How does that qualify him to be trainer.
There is a difference between trainer and nutritionist!
If your brother's friend is well built (I assume he is, since he goes to the gym all the time) and knows what he is doing why not. Obviously he must know something about trainig if he looks good. And it's not a rocket science if you have done it for a while - you just need some knowlegde about muscle groups and how to use them to achive your goal.
Nutrition on the other hand is way more complicated. More than that, we get different advise from different dietetitians, as we all have to figure out what actually works for us,we just have to try certain things and see if it works for us and if we can keep it up.
If you ask a trainer about nutrition advise their answear will not be reliable - they will tell you what worked for them not what is good for you. You might as well ask about diet advise your car mechanic.
As we all have different goals, we all need different advise.
Trainer will give you workout program desined for your needs.
You wouldn't ask for a fitness program dietetitian, would you? Their advice will be useless and vague, probably more cardio. If you have specific goal in mind - leaner legs, perkier boobs, spankable *kitten* you need specific program from a trainer.
Those are two different professions!
Almost every "transitional" new trainer I've seen does the same thing when they first start...................they have all their clients do THEIR workout.
Their workout isn't made for many of the clients workouts. Sure there are some basics like squats and rows, but not everyone is going to be able to do pullups, snatches, etc.
I've seen many a trainer like this have the SAME program and train every client with the SAME program whether they be young or old.
Not to mention, many of the lifters only trainers have no concept on training in plyometrics, HIIT, Tabata, etc. because they don't do it themselves. Even without this knowledge, they could get a cert.
While it's not that they can't learn it, lots of "transitional" trainers stick to workouts that they know personally and that's usually not the best program for many clients.
A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer/Group Fitness Instructor
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I do agree with you that there is a lot of useless trainers out there. It all depends on, what are you in it for and obviously your knowledge. It's like with doctors, accountants, dentists, etc - just because someone has a certificat doesn't mean they are good in what they do.
The thing is, if you have no idea how to work out and you go to someone who does they will give you good tips and advise how to do the exercise the correct way. And if you are a little bit experienced in working out, I believe that after one session with a trainer you can tell if they know what they are talking about, you just have to shop around or ask someone to recomend you a good one.
I know a few people, who use to do something else but loved fitness and are great trainers ( one of them designed my program and I am very happy with it).
But that's not a point which I was trying to make...
My point was that you wouldn't go to your gardener for a legal advise and then have problem with his answear, would you.0 -
This guy who says he's a "trainer" knows nothing about fitness and diet! and is trying to give me advice -____- sad thing is he could get a few lessons from these forums or at least the google machine to learn proper nutrition and fitness!
He's seriously telling me that i'm not losing weight cause i'm eating too much....excuse me? I have not been eating enough!! I am burning at least 400 calories everyday (I know I've been burning more, but I lost my heart rate monitor, so I now follow the machine) and only eating 1,200 calories! So my body is trying to store the fat and trade the muscle into fat because it thinks i'm starving!
AND now he just told me I shouldn't eat any bread or fruit..ever?...He says to eat less than 40 carbs a day...has he taken a nutrition class?! No carbs = no energy. You don't get energy from protein or anything like that. You get them from carbs! A low carb diet is what it is.. A DIET. yeah you'll lose weight, but you'll also lose energy..
It seems like anyone can get a license nowadays...bleck! That was my rant for the night...
This guy on facebook should NOT be a trainer.
He's right on the bread, wrong on the fruit.
If you know you're not eating enough, why aren't you eating more?
I've been staying up late, and waking up later... so staying up till 2 - 3 am and waking up at 12 pm! However, I am changing that starting today so I can eat appropriately for my workouts!0 -
I have just recently started going to a personal trainer and she recommended I use myfitnesspal to log my calories, she doesn't try and give me nutrional advice.0
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He's certified and credentialed in Broscience! :laugh:
LOL, sad and true. :bigsmile:0 -
I don't know how anybody can go low carb and have enough energy. If I went below 2000 calories I think I'd starve to death.0
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This guy who says he's a "trainer" knows nothing about fitness and diet! and is trying to give me advice -____- sad thing is he could get a few lessons from these forums or at least the google machine to learn proper nutrition and fitness!
He's seriously telling me that i'm not losing weight cause i'm eating too much....excuse me? I have not been eating enough!! I am burning at least 400 calories everyday (I know I've been burning more, but I lost my heart rate monitor, so I now follow the machine) and only eating 1,200 calories! So my body is trying to store the fat and trade the muscle into fat because it thinks i'm starving!
AND now he just told me I shouldn't eat any bread or fruit..ever?...He says to eat less than 40 carbs a day...has he taken a nutrition class?! No carbs = no energy. You don't get energy from protein or anything like that. You get them from carbs! A low carb diet is what it is.. A DIET. yeah you'll lose weight, but you'll also lose energy..
It seems like anyone can get a license nowadays...bleck! That was my rant for the night...
This guy on facebook should NOT be a trainer.
This is why he's a trainer and not a nutritionist or a dietician. (I'm a food scientist and I dont claim to be that either, but I know how important the schooling is!... so much food related misinformation and ignorance out there).0 -
Thank god you know better
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Fitness Instructor =/= Nutritionist
Totally agree. I'm a fitness instructor and when someone asks me about nutrition I tell them to sign up here plus do some research and talk to a nutritionist. I am not an nutritionist.0 -
Trainers have no business giving nutrition advice. They aren't dieticians, who, unlike trainers, are actually trained formally in nutritional science.
They should stick to exercise advice.
THIS!!!! :flowerforyou:0 -
I disagree on the calories completely, you need to eat more not less. But I agree completely on the bread (grains.) If he's cross-fit, he's most likely paleo (I am paleo) and that generally means avoid ALL grains, seed oils and processed foods (including sugars.) Natural sugars (fructose), like from fruit are OK, though for weight loss you don't want a ton of them. Meat and veggies and some nuts. With this change ONLY, I broke my plateau and I've lost 35 lbs since Feb. I eat about 1,800-2,000 cal a day and workout enough for a (conservative) 500-900 calorie loss every day (even when I was plateaued, it was the eating that changed it for me.)
Not saying it's for everyone, but just saying what's working for me.0 -
ANYONE who tells you not to eat fruit is someone to not listen to.
I respectfuly disagree!!!
We actualy don't need fruit ( it is full of sugar). It has vitamins, minerals and fiber which you can find in aboundance in vegetables, which are lower in calories and sugar. Lets be honest, if you don't eat either it's better if you at least eat some fruit beacause it teast better, that's why it's being rcomendet to nation of people who eats rubbish. But actually you are much better off with veg.
What we do need is good source of fat, so anyone recommending low fat diet is not doing you any favour! Our brain is 2/3 fat and feeds on omega fatty acids. Personally, I recomend linseed and cold press linseed oil.
As any good registered dietitian will tell you, fruit shouldn't be consumed in the same quantities as vegetables, but they are okay to have. I believe it's all about balancing food the best way possible.0 -
Almost every "transitional" new trainer I've seen does the same thing when they first start...................they have all their clients do THEIR workout.
Their workout isn't made for many of the clients workouts. Sure there are some basics like squats and rows, but not everyone is going to be able to do pullups, snatches, etc.
I've seen many a trainer like this have the SAME program and train every client with the SAME program whether they be young or old.
The trainer at my gym does that, it makes M and I laugh. All of his clients do the same exact workouts, and it's **** I would never pay to have someone tell me to do. I don't know where he's picking up this ****, but he just doesn't seem to get that every client is different, and every workout should feel a little fresh. I honestly don't think he'd know what to do with the likes of me.0 -
One thing you should know about the fitness advice put forth by MANY cross fitters is that usually it is driven by a Paleo (or Paleo inspired) lifestyle. Paleo excludes gluten, dairy, alcohol, and sugar from each day's intake. (Maybe that's why his advice seemed to be QUITE different)?
The reason many people adhere to the pale lifestyle is because they believe gluten, dairy, and sugar wreak havoc on your body (inside and out). They say people have only recently developed gluten and included these foods into their lifestyle and that it's actually not what the human body is used to or needs.
You can decide on your own what you think, but this instructor was spouting advice directly from the Paleo lifestyle. That's why he says no/few apples (or sugar), oatmeal (and bread/pasta), and wants you to get carbs from vegetables. Many people have GREAT success from this diet. I have a body builder friend Mitch that eats 80% paleo and feels MUCH better. Gina, a friend from college lost 11 pounds in one month of doing CrossFit and eating Paleo. This is her blog. http://paleodietlifestyle.com/paleo-diet-food-list/
I live in China and it's verrrrry hard to eat Paleo, but I like the basis on this lifestyle because I LOVE eating whole and unprocessed foods. Plus, dairy makes me break out. Ultimately, they encourage organic, wild (grass-fed) meat, eggs, vegetables, fish, few fruits, few nuts, eggs. You can eat rice, but the biggest part of your diet should be veggies and proteins.
You are correct in saying 1200 is too low for how much you are working out. Not sure what he meant by you are eating too much?! That's a bit out there...
Here's what I recommend reading: http://www.archevore.com/get-started/.
Hope this helps clarify!
I will read that! But yes he said thats how many calories I should eat! I do enjoy the idea of Paleo; however, I don't eat a lot of refined sugars - just a few treats! Especially with my age (I'm in my 20s) with friends and all, I can't realistically think of going Paleo though...However I do try to eat lots of veggies, egg whites, and protein!
I follow Paleo, in my 20s and still go out with friends And I am going to have to eat this way almost all of the time because grains and dairy do NOT agree with me at all. It's really not that hard to be social and Paleo. There's nothing about Paleo that says fruit should not be eaten.
I do think he was wrong on the calories, but it just depends on your activity level.0 -
I disagree on the calories completely, you need to eat more not less. But I agree completely on the bread (grains.) If he's cross-fit, he's most likely paleo (I am paleo) and that generally means avoid ALL grains, seed oils and processed foods (including sugars.) Natural sugars (fructose), like from fruit are OK, though for weight loss you don't want a ton of them. Meat and veggies and some nuts. With this change ONLY, I broke my plateau and I've lost 35 lbs since Feb. I eat about 1,800-2,000 cal a day and workout enough for a (conservative) 500-900 calorie loss every day (even when I was plateaued, it was the eating that changed it for me.)
Not saying it's for everyone, but just saying what's working for me.
Thank you! I agree not a ton of fruits and more veggies than fruit! Spinach is my favorite I add it to everything! The most fruit that I eat are blueberries and small granny smith apples in my oatmeal (my guilty pleasure). I try to eat at least 70% of my carbs by 3 pm each day! And do a small carb / protein snack after a work (such as a tuna fish sandwich on carb conscious bread) 0 -
I disagree on the calories completely, you need to eat more not less. But I agree completely on the bread (grains.) If he's cross-fit, he's most likely paleo (I am paleo) and that generally means avoid ALL grains, seed oils and processed foods (including sugars.) Natural sugars (fructose), like from fruit are OK, though for weight loss you don't want a ton of them. Meat and veggies and some nuts. With this change ONLY, I broke my plateau and I've lost 35 lbs since Feb. I eat about 1,800-2,000 cal a day and workout enough for a (conservative) 500-900 calorie loss every day (even when I was plateaued, it was the eating that changed it for me.)
Not saying it's for everyone, but just saying what's working for me.
ALSO! Congratulations 0 -
The only thing my trainer ever said to me about fruit was that I was better off not being able to eat bananas ( i can't have them) since they are so high in sugar. But she just said it in passing.0
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We had one too before he quit. He was a meat head and EVERY client I saw him have did dead lifts. Even the 70+ year olds. Now unless the 70 year is competing in dead lifting, why in the world would he have her trying to dead lift 135lbs? Yes strength is important, but not to the point where possible injury supercedes it.Almost every "transitional" new trainer I've seen does the same thing when they first start...................they have all their clients do THEIR workout.
Their workout isn't made for many of the clients workouts. Sure there are some basics like squats and rows, but not everyone is going to be able to do pullups, snatches, etc.
I've seen many a trainer like this have the SAME program and train every client with the SAME program whether they be young or old.
The trainer at my gym does that, it makes M and I laugh. All of his clients do the same exact workouts, and it's **** I would never pay to have someone tell me to do. I don't know where he's picking up this ****, but he just doesn't seem to get that every client is different, and every workout should feel a little fresh. I honestly don't think he'd know what to do with the likes of me.
A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer/Group Fitness Instructor
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition0 -
He's certified and credentialed in Broscience! :laugh:
Yeah Buddy!0
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