can too much protein be bad?

ayoubm3949
ayoubm3949 Posts: 81
in Food and Nutrition
mfp says I should be eating about 67g of protein (with exercise) but I usually have at least 80 grams..

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  • Sarahkittymeoww
    Sarahkittymeoww Posts: 26
    Well I hope not because lately I go over some days, too :ohwell:
  • Loko_Ino
    Loko_Ino Posts: 544 Member
    That is not that much and won't hurt you.
  • runfatmanrun
    runfatmanrun Posts: 1,090 Member
    I usually double what MFP recommends so I think you are fine.
  • vade43113
    vade43113 Posts: 836 Member
    So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbohydrates for a protein-dominant diet, Butterfield says. Drastically cutting carbohydrates from your diet may force your body to fight back.

    She says that's because a diet in which protein makes up more than 30% of your caloric intake causes a buildup of toxic ketones. So-called ketogenic diets can thrust your kidneys into overdrive in order to flush these ketones from your body. As your kidneys rid your body of these toxic ketones, you can lose a significant amount of water, which puts you at risk of dehydration, particularly if you exercise heavily.

    That water loss often shows up on the scale as weight loss. But along with losing water, you lose muscle mass and bone calcium. The dehydration also strains your kidneys and puts stress on your heart.

    And dehydration from a ketogenic diet can make you feel weak and dizzy, give you bad breath, or lead to other problems.

    From

    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900
  • kelseyhere
    kelseyhere Posts: 1,123 Member
    67 is actually not really very high. MFP calculates protein a little low. 80 is perfectly fine.
  • narick
    narick Posts: 23
    if you are physically active that is extremely low. So don't worry. The only time going over any macro nutrient is bad is if it puts you over your calorie goal for the day. But again if you are working out 80 is probably still on the low side.
  • TOYGRRRL
    TOYGRRRL Posts: 251 Member
    It can be really bad if you have kidney issues.
  • kelseyhere
    kelseyhere Posts: 1,123 Member
    So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbohydrates for a protein-dominant diet, Butterfield says. Drastically cutting carbohydrates from your diet may force your body to fight back.

    She says that's because a diet in which protein makes up more than 30% of your caloric intake causes a buildup of toxic ketones. So-called ketogenic diets can thrust your kidneys into overdrive in order to flush these ketones from your body. As your kidneys rid your body of these toxic ketones, you can lose a significant amount of water, which puts you at risk of dehydration, particularly if you exercise heavily.

    That water loss often shows up on the scale as weight loss. But along with losing water, you lose muscle mass and bone calcium. The dehydration also strains your kidneys and puts stress on your heart.

    And dehydration from a ketogenic diet can make you feel weak and dizzy, give you bad breath, or lead to other problems.

    From

    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900

    ^Just because you eat a lot of protein doesn't mean you are sacrificing carbs.
  • LeggyKettleBabe
    LeggyKettleBabe Posts: 300 Member
    I am averaging almost a 1lb per body weight so around 200 grams, i have been doing it for 6 weeks now i dont have any issues actually my blood pressure and such have gone down :)
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    I'd say that's pretty low. I'd probably aim for closer to 100 depending on how big you are. I eat at least 200 every day with no problems.
  • vade43113
    vade43113 Posts: 836 Member
    So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbohydrates for a protein-dominant diet, Butterfield says. Drastically cutting carbohydrates from your diet may force your body to fight back.

    She says that's because a diet in which protein makes up more than 30% of your caloric intake causes a buildup of toxic ketones. So-called ketogenic diets can thrust your kidneys into overdrive in order to flush these ketones from your body. As your kidneys rid your body of these toxic ketones, you can lose a significant amount of water, which puts you at risk of dehydration, particularly if you exercise heavily.

    That water loss often shows up on the scale as weight loss. But along with losing water, you lose muscle mass and bone calcium. The dehydration also strains your kidneys and puts stress on your heart.

    And dehydration from a ketogenic diet can make you feel weak and dizzy, give you bad breath, or lead to other problems.

    From

    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900

    ^Just because you eat a lot of protein doesn't mean you are sacrificing carbs.

    I didn't say it, I just copied and pasted, from one of the most useful site's I know. I know what you say is true. I just wanted to show the possible dangers
  • ayoubm3949
    ayoubm3949 Posts: 81
    thanks for the advice everyone!
    my friend is a nutritionist and when I told him I eat 80 grams of protein a day he laughed at me and said I should only be eat 56 grams (with exercise) because more than that will just turn into fat

    that's why I was asking lool but I'll stick to my 80 grams :)
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbohydrates for a protein-dominant diet, Butterfield says. Drastically cutting carbohydrates from your diet may force your body to fight back.

    She says that's because a diet in which protein makes up more than 30% of your caloric intake causes a buildup of toxic ketones. So-called ketogenic diets can thrust your kidneys into overdrive in order to flush these ketones from your body. As your kidneys rid your body of these toxic ketones, you can lose a significant amount of water, which puts you at risk of dehydration, particularly if you exercise heavily.

    That water loss often shows up on the scale as weight loss. But along with losing water, you lose muscle mass and bone calcium. The dehydration also strains your kidneys and puts stress on your heart.

    And dehydration from a ketogenic diet can make you feel weak and dizzy, give you bad breath, or lead to other problems.

    From

    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900

    I had better sign myself up for dialysis immediately then. So should the majority of professional athletes, a lot of folks on MFP, anyone on a paloe/atkins/south beach/zone diet and bodybuilders.

    Can we get an actual study cited rather than an article that cites someone else saying things.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    thanks for the advice everyone!
    my friend is a nutritionist and when I told him I eat 80 grams of protein a day he laughed at me and said I should only be eat 56 grams (with exercise) because more than that will just turn into fat

    that's why I was asking lool but I'll stick to my 80 grams :)

    I would suggest asking him exactly how this happens - because it does not.

    ETA: all of those body builders out there that have hundreds of grams of protein - they are total fatty mcfatties
  • horsemom53
    horsemom53 Posts: 16 Member
    So funny you asked this question because I was wondering the same thing. I didn't think I had ate much protien today but I'm already over, just shows you how quickly things add.
  • warmachinejt
    warmachinejt Posts: 2,162 Member
    lol....i had 284g of protein yesterday and only 50g of those were protein shakes. And in 2700 calories. Come at me bros :laugh:
  • wackyfunster
    wackyfunster Posts: 944 Member
    Hm. Workout days I eat >200g protein and around 500g of carbs. I am glad to know that it has secretly been putting me into a state of ketonosis an making me fat. Guess I better go back to eating 5-6 meals of fast food per day then!
  • davidmcgowan1987
    davidmcgowan1987 Posts: 111
    So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbohydrates for a protein-dominant diet, Butterfield says. Drastically cutting carbohydrates from your diet may force your body to fight back.

    She says that's because a diet in which protein makes up more than 30% of your caloric intake causes a buildup of toxic ketones. So-called ketogenic diets can thrust your kidneys into overdrive in order to flush these ketones from your body. As your kidneys rid your body of these toxic ketones, you can lose a significant amount of water, which puts you at risk of dehydration, particularly if you exercise heavily.

    That water loss often shows up on the scale as weight loss. But along with losing water, you lose muscle mass and bone calcium. The dehydration also strains your kidneys and puts stress on your heart.

    And dehydration from a ketogenic diet can make you feel weak and dizzy, give you bad breath, or lead to other problems.

    From

    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900

    Thats almost right... lol

    A ketogenic diet is when your body runs out of carbs for glucose production... your brain runs on glucose so oh oh! except your body isnt daft, its evolved a mechanism left over from our carnivore days called ketogenesis, this is when your body makes a secondary fuel source for your brain, ketones.

    however like converting a car to bio-diesel its not a straight switch... first you need to do some stuff in your brain to make it run on the new fuel, this means for the first few days a pure ketogenic diet is hell... feels like heatstroke...

    however if ketogenesis is not your intent you will keep drip feeding carbs by mistake, this will slow down the change from one fuel to the other.

    make a choice, either give your body enough carbs or dont give it any... cant have it both ways... the switch is hard but its possible to run ketogenic safely for a few months but you MUST BE STRICT... ANY CARBS WILL SCREW UP THE PROCESS.

    not for diabetics or those with kidney problems. watch for ketoacidosis... thats when it gets problematic.
  • missikay1970
    missikay1970 Posts: 588 Member
    i eat at least 125. nothing wrong with it. :smile:
  • Glucocorticoid
    Glucocorticoid Posts: 867 Member
    A number of health risks have been attributed to the consumption of high protein intakes, this includes potential problems with the kidneys, bone health, metabolic acidosis and certain types of cancers. For the most part, these risks tend to be extremely overstated.

    While high protein intakes may cause problems when there is pre-existing kidney disease, no research suggests that high protein intakes cause kidney damage. While there is potential for high protein intakes to cause body calcium loss, this appears to only occur when calcium intake is insufficient in the first place; high protein intakes with high calcium intakes improves bone health. Ensuring sufficient vegetable intake along with a high protein intake is a key aspect not only to bone health but to preventing a small metabolic acidosis which may occur when large amounts of protein are consumed by themselves.

    Concerns over heart disease and cancer are more related to the high fat content of many cuts of meat, along with other nutritional factors such as insufficient fruit and vegetable intake that contributes. Other lifestyle factors that typically accompany the consumption of higher fat cuts of meat are also a likely contributor to the overall health risk. The consumption of lean cuts of meat has actually been shown to improve overall health; both athletic and diets for general health should ideally contain plenty of fruits and vegetables for this reason.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/protein-controversies.html
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