Things to know about the adult world.

So I'm finishing my sophomore year in college, and there are many things about the real world I still do not understand.
Stuff I should know about...but have always been embarrassed to ask.

Right now I'd say I'm independent...but from growing up until the time I actually physically left for college, everything was done for me, and I was never taught how to do it, for dumb reasons. This includes life necessities, including how to cook, do laundry, and things about the adult financial world.

Now, I know how to do laundry now ;) And I still need to learn how to cook.

But the main question I'm asking is about...finances.

Can someone please explain to me what an interest rate is?! Any anything else I need to know that is related to finances, that you think is important? I feel kind of silly for asking, but I also thought some of you might enjoy giving your two cents about being an adult. Feel free to add anything else!

Thank you!
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  • andrea198721
    andrea198721 Posts: 173 Member
    My bank actually offers workshops to hep explain those types of things, you should check and see if yours offers anything like that. Good luck to you!
  • Sp1nGoddess
    Sp1nGoddess Posts: 1,134 Member
    Avoid debt as much as possible. If you can't afford it, you don't need it, end of story.
  • tzeoli86
    tzeoli86 Posts: 75 Member
    Avoid debt as much as possible. If you can't afford it, you don't need it, end of story.

    ^^^Best financial advice there is!
  • mcrowe1016
    mcrowe1016 Posts: 647 Member
    If you give your money to someone, they will charge you an interest rate. The idea is that you are paying them to let you borrow money. You might get a $10,000 auto loan with annual interest of 5%. So over the course of the year, you would pay about $500 to the bank to let you borrow that money.

    It gets much more complicated, seeing as how the intererst is annual, but is charged every month. As you pay down the loan, the amount of interest you pay will decrease (you will only pay about $250 annually when you get the loan down to $5,000)
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    My bank actually offers workshops to hep explain those types of things, you should check and see if yours offers anything like that. Good luck to you!

    definitely look for a class or workshop like this. It's best to get this sort of information/advice from professionals. My husband had to actually go to business school to learn all the financial stuff people need to know.
  • mjbrenner
    mjbrenner Posts: 222 Member
    Buy a copy of "The Everything Personal Finance in Your 20s & 30s Book". Read it cover to cover. Keep it and refer to it regularly. My wife and I cut our financial teeth on this book as young adults, and every young couple we have lent it to since has loved it and learned from it.

    Good job on taking your adult life seriously. That type of attitude leads to a successful, enjoyable adult life.
  • crat77
    crat77 Posts: 8
    Google Dave Ramsey. I'm not on board with 100% of what he says, but it's some old tried and true methods, and it's basically that Credit is bad. Debt is dumb. Cash is king. Rough it to make it.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    My bank actually offers workshops to hep explain those types of things, you should check and see if yours offers anything like that. Good luck to you!

    This is a good idea.

    And for explanations of terminology, wikipedia is actually a pretty good source.
  • divinebird
    divinebird Posts: 81 Member
    I agree with the person who suggested you talk to your bank. They have people who are used to dealing with all kinds of questions, and usually they have a private space for you to talk in (so no fears about embarrassing questions). Write down any particular questions you have and take notes. The banks want you to be informed because that means less chance you'll do something like overdraw your account!

    Also, if your bank DOESN'T do this, switch. Believe me, you owe them no loyalty if they won't take the time to help educate you. I always recommend credit unions, because they are owned by the people who bank there. (Also their interest rates are usually better!)
  • soccermoma11
    soccermoma11 Posts: 126
    There is alot to know about finances, and alot of it is highly complex, search Dave Ramsey he has amazing financial advice and a class that is so helpful. It walks you through things and explains it well. Also I would suggest getting a financial advisor as they will be able to help you with your individual circumstances, just make sure it is someone you trust and are comfortable with. If you are not than find someone else, just make an appointment at your bank and ask any and all questions, ask for clarity if you dont understand something. It is your finances and your money and you have the right to do with it as you please, you should be entitled to know what happens with it. So ask lots of questions and dont be afraid to switch advisors or banks! good luck to you!
  • happypath101
    happypath101 Posts: 534
    Check out this web-site. This lady is amazing. I'm a huge fan.

    http://www.gailvazoxlade.com/
  • mcrowe1016
    mcrowe1016 Posts: 647 Member
    The best advice I can give you is to keep track of spending. I use debit and credit cards (that I pay off every week) for everything I buy, and every week I will list off the amount I spend on bills, food, gas, and fun things for me.

    This way, you will be aware of what you have and what you are spending.

    Make sure you have financial goals (how much you want to save per month) that are realistic and that you follow.
  • garnet1483
    garnet1483 Posts: 249 Member
    If you have the credits to spare, take an intro to business math, or similar class. You'll learn everything you need to know about interest rates. The key in real life: if you have to use a credit card, make sure you have a plan to pay it off in a reasonable amount of time. The lower the interest rate the better, the better your credit score, the lower your interest rate should be.

    The biggest advice I can give, though, is learn how to budget. Figure out how much money you have in a given month, and balance that against your bills. Consider your savings as a "bill" that you pay into every month. Make a plan to pay everything you owe, plus your savings, before you spend on anything else, and stick to that plan. Budget in an amount for fun, too. For going out, getting coffee, having lunch, buying clothes. Be realistic. Budgeting properly can get you through the worst financial spots, as can making sure you have a savings account. You could actually think of it like dieting. You have a certain number of calories a day, and you have to figure out how to responsibly spend them in order to lose weight. Similarly, you have a certain amount of money a month. You have to figure out how to responsibly spend it while still saving.
  • scagneti
    scagneti Posts: 707 Member
    Finances are insanely important. A lot of you adult relationships will depend on what you do now.

    1) Banks are not your friend. Don't sign up for a credit card or an account for a t-shirt or whatever. Even though it may seem like a zillion years away, always think of your credit score. A mortgage with a bad credit score will take forever to pay off.

    2) Do a budget and learn to live within it. The greatest person I've ever seen for budgets is Gail Vaz-Oxlade from Til Debt Do Us Part. She has fantastic budget spreadsheets and ideas. Highly recommend.

    As for your question, an interest rate is what the bank will lend you money at. Obviously you want that to be as low as possible to ensure you pay off as quickly as possible. If you have a 20% rate, it will compound much faster than a 4% rate.
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
    Avoid debt as much as possible. If you can't afford it, you don't need it, end of story.

    boom. best advice. please take it.
    ESPECIALLY in these economic times.

    my wife and i inflated a decent amount of credit card debt...nothing crazy, but i think it was around $30k total.
    it took us 10 years and a financial management firm to get out of it. we are FINALLY financially independent (out of unsecured debt) and i cannot tell you how wonderful it feels. we have NO credit cards and we pay for things with our OWN money. imagine that.
    economic times are not getting any better. the best thing you can do is avoid unsecured debt and plan for the future.

    don't make the same mistake many have and live out of your means. it's a tough road to go down and can easily end in financial ruin.

    *edited to add*
    because of telling the credit card companies to **** off, we are now able to sock away about $250/week into savings.
    that will come in extremely handy when it's time for a vacation, home improvements, or when the 30year old furnace finally gives out. :)
    my point is...don't get stuck giving them your last dime every month to make the minimum payments. instead, keep that money for YOU, as you will need it for sure.
  • porcelain_doll
    porcelain_doll Posts: 1,005 Member
    Don't be tempted to use credit cards, and don't get sucked in with their "0% interest for 2 years" offers, etc. Like an above poster said, if you can't afford it, you don't need it. I racked up $15,000 of credit card debt and it took me 3 years and a 2nd job to pay it off. It sucked. Don't get sucked into that hole. I have one credit card now, and that is only for when I book a hotel room or rental car where they ask for a credit card to put a hold or deposit, etc.

    Also, don't live above your means. If you get to the end of the month and you have little or no money leftover, something needs to go, whether it be an expensive phone plan, extra cable channels, or some other miscellaneous service you can cut out.

    If your employer offers a 401k program, take advantage of it (in the future when you are out of school!). I don't fully understand the financial world, either, but these basic things are essential to know about. Kudos to you for thinking ahead and trying to live as an adult, instead of figuring things out later after you're in the red!!
  • DrKittyCat
    DrKittyCat Posts: 108
    Try to avoid buying things on credit as much as possible. Pay off your student loans before interest starts accruing. I'm putting off medical school for two years, so I can pay off my loans and get a bunch of money in the bank...you can never be too young to start saving!
  • Gt3ch
    Gt3ch Posts: 212 Member
    Wow you're halfway through college and this never came up? That doesn't speak very well for our educational system.

    I remember vividly in 1st grade being taught how to fill out a check. I think it was in 4th or 5th grade math class we learned about interest rates and compounding interest. What the hell is going on these days?

    On the plus side you have this amazing learning tool. Use it. Pump "interest rate" into Google. Read on Yahoo and Google finance. Discover and read all the free content in the numerous financial websites. You can do it in your underwear and you don't have to go to a bank that may be more interested in selling you products than teaching you.

    Others talk about interest in terms of a loan. My advice is to pay as little of that as possible. Instead focus on interest you earn like when a bank pays YOU for borrowing your money
  • michellekicks
    michellekicks Posts: 3,624 Member
    Dave Ramsay for sure.

    And yeah... just don't borrow. Except for a house. If you need something else, save up for it. Really and truly you will never regret that decision. There are loads of websites that go into detail about how to live frugally so you can stretch every dollar as far as possible. Learn to do this and you will have far more financial freedom in the years ahead.

    An interest rate can be the cost of borrowing, but it is also the return on your investment if you're the lender. Once you've saved some money, you can invest it in any number of ways to earn you interest i.e. the people who are using it while you're not, will pay you money so you end up with more.
  • taxidermist15
    taxidermist15 Posts: 677 Member
    Can anyone explain to me credit scores?

    Im 21, and so far I have paid everything off in full.

    car, rent, food, groceries, holidays everything paid IN CASH

    however next up on my list is a house. I dont have a credit score, and so they wont give me a loan ( I assume..)
    how do i get around this? and do i HAVE to put stuff on credit (they pay it off straight away) just to get a goos score?
  • KellyMirth
    KellyMirth Posts: 153
    Live below what you can afford.

    Always pay yourself first, from every paycheck you receive. I suggest at least 15% of all of your income. The more you put away now while you're young, the better off you'll be when you get older. Don't wait until you can afford to save, you'll never get there.

    If your employer has a retirement plan take advantage of it, especially if they contribute to it. It doesn't matter how much you make, what matters is that you put the money away every single paycheck without fail.

    Keep track of where you spend your money, write it down and learn the difference between a need and a want.

    Budget is not a dirty word.

    Don't use credit cards unless you are that rare person that can pay off the whole balance at the end of each month. Credit cards are not real money, they are simply debt waiting to happen.

    Go to the library and get some books on finance. One of the easiest to read is "The Richest Man In Babylon". Written in the 1920s, it still holds true today. Simple, straight forward information that everyone can utilize.

    Keep it simple, finances don't need to be complex.
  • Redbird99ky
    Redbird99ky Posts: 305 Member
    Interest rate is the rate you would pay to use someone else's money to buy something. When you borrow money, you are assigned a risk factor that is based on your credit (borrowing) history. Let's say you borrowed 100 dollars, at 20 percent interest rate (annual percentage rate), and you were to pay it back over the period of one year, in equal monthly payments. You would pay the original 100, PLUS the 20 dollars (20 percent of 100) or 120 dollars. You would be required to pay the lender 10 dollars a month. There are different types of interest, but they all work fairly similarly.

    All that being said, why would you use someone else's money to buy something? Opinions vary, but the majority of people who borrow (especially on a credit card or a car note) do so to buy something they don't NEED and can't really AFFORD to impress people they don't really like.

    Dave Ramsey has a book called "Financial Peace Revisited" that you can find at most bookstores in the personal finances section. I STRONGLY encourage you to buy it and read it. Dave dispels many myths such as "It's important to build your credit score" and "you NEED to have a credit card" and "you'll ALWAYS have a car payment. Dave's motto is if you have to borrow money to buy it, you can't afford it. save up for it and pay cash. His ONLY exception, however is a home, but there are conditions that you should meet prior to taking out a mortgage.

    His program works, and we haven't had a credit card payment since about 2003, a car payment since 2005, and in 2006, were able to take a flight out to Oregon to visit my brother before he died, stay in a hotel for a week, rent a car for the week, and pitch in on the groceries, all with CASH ( we determined that this was an emergency and used money from our emergency fund), which meant we didn't have to worry about any credit card bills coming in two months after we came back home.

    That was on top of the cruise we took to Alaska that year, which we also saved up for and paid cash for. Again, no vacation financial hangover.

    We have refinanced our home twice, each time going to a shorter term, with a lower interest rate. Our home, which we bought in 2002 on a 30 year note, will be paid off in October of 2017 at the latest. Thank you Dave Ramsey, and thank you God!

    I hope this helps.
  • Redbird99ky
    Redbird99ky Posts: 305 Member
    Can anyone explain to me credit scores?

    Im 21, and so far I have paid everything off in full.

    car, rent, food, groceries, holidays everything paid IN CASH

    however next up on my list is a house. I dont have a credit score, and so they wont give me a loan ( I assume..)
    how do i get around this? and do i HAVE to put stuff on credit (they pay it off straight away) just to get a goos score?

    Pay your rent on time for at least two years, and pile up money while you are doing so to build up a nice down payment, of at least 20 percent. Then you'll be bankable for a traditional mortgage from a company that does MANUAL underwriting, not FICO score lending. You don't need to go deeply into debt so that you can go even deeper into debt.

    Get receipts from your landlord to show your rent payment record.
  • michellekicks
    michellekicks Posts: 3,624 Member
    Can anyone explain to me credit scores?

    Im 21, and so far I have paid everything off in full.

    car, rent, food, groceries, holidays everything paid IN CASH

    however next up on my list is a house. I dont have a credit score, and so they wont give me a loan ( I assume..)
    how do i get around this? and do i HAVE to put stuff on credit (they pay it off straight away) just to get a goos score?

    Well, okay, yeah... I've heard this. You could get a small credit card - say, with a $500 limit - and use it for your monthly groceries or something. Each time you buy groceries, put them on the card, then transfer the money once or twice a month (whatever coincides with your pay) and be sure to pay off the whole balance each month. You can maybe earn points towards something too... but don't use it for anything else. Having a credit card is almost a necessity in this world - the phone company and other utilities will want to secure your account against one. Also, if you buy music or stuff on amazon you have to use a card anyway, but just be sure to transfer real money to pay it off right away. Then you'll end up with an excellent credit score.
  • aradalj1
    aradalj1 Posts: 23
    Interest rates came about because of something called "the time value of money". Basically it means that money is worth more today then it is in the future, because if you have money today you can invest the money and earn a return. The investment could be anything from buying stocks to putting it in a savings account.

    So basically when you borrow money from a bank or any lending institution, the bank will expect you to pay back MORE than the amount you initially borrowed, because the bank is giving the money to you now and receiving it in the future (when you pay it back). As we know from 'the time value of money" the bank would be better off to have the money today than in the future, so to compensate for the money they gave to you, which could have invested elsewhere, they ask for you to pay an Interest rate.

    So instead of just paying back the initial amount you borrowed, you end up paying back the principal+interest. How much interest you pay back is determined by the rate you agree on, it might be a fixed rate which won't change over time, or a variable rate which will change over time.

    With big loans, like a mortgage you end up paying more interest then the initial amount you borrowed! But debt isn't always bad, if you invest right debt will magnify your return, but if you invest wrong it will magnify your losses.

    Interest rates also work the other way around, if you have money saved up and give it to a bank to hold onto (i.e put your money into a savings account), the bank will pay you interest, because you are giving the bank money today, which you could be investing elsewhere. However, the rate you receive from the bank will be much less then what you pay on your loan, this is because banks are greedy and like to maximise their profit.
  • becoming_a_new_me
    becoming_a_new_me Posts: 1,860 Member
    Interest is based upon a yearly rate but can be compounded monthly or quarterly. This means that if you finance $1000 at a 6% interest rate, .5% will be charged to you monthly or 1.5% will be charged to you quarterly. That means that you will be charged $5 per month interest on your debt or $15 per quarter. The interest is charged on the balance owed, so the first month if you pay $200, the balance of the debt is $800, so you will be charged .5% of that amount, which is $4. The faster you pay off the debt, the less you pay in interest.

    Let me tell you some things that I have learned in life:

    Avoid debt...if you want something big, keep a savings account to put money into until you have enough to pay cash

    If you are going to finance (a car or home), try to have 25% as a down payment as a minimum. That means if the car is 10,000, you need to put down at least 2,500

    Instead of making monthly payments, pay your payments bi-weekly. If you do this, you will end up with 13 months of payments instead of 12. This allows you to lower your overall interest rate and pay off your bill sooner.

    Ensure that whatever you finance does not have a penalty for early pay-off. If there is, then walk away...you can do better.

    PAY YOURSELF FIRST...put at least 5% of each paycheck into a 401K or retirement fund. You are young and if you do this, you can retire comfortably later. It also reduces your taxable income. Put another 5% of your income into an emergency savings account. Make it your goal to have at least 6 months worth of monthly expenses set aside in case of an emergency. Most employers will allow you to direct deposit to multiple accounts, so set an amount to have put into your savings account and DO NOT TOUCH IT.

    Make sure you pay your bills first (rent, utilities, car payment, car insurance, and student loans), then buy your groceries, then you can play. Bills ALWAYS come first...create a budget and stick to it. I keep mine in an excel spreadsheet....I know where every penny of every check goes.

    If you want to buy something, put it back, go home, and think about it for 24 hours. This will help you avoid impulse purchases and allow you be logical about need vs. necessity.

    There is more, but these are the most important lessons I have learned.
  • nichalsont
    nichalsont Posts: 421 Member
    Can anyone explain to me credit scores?

    Im 21, and so far I have paid everything off in full.

    car, rent, food, groceries, holidays everything paid IN CASH

    however next up on my list is a house. I dont have a credit score, and so they wont give me a loan ( I assume..)
    how do i get around this? and do i HAVE to put stuff on credit (they pay it off straight away) just to get a good score?

    I have been in the banking industry for over 25 years, primarily commercial loans. I have also taught basic financial principles to 16-19 yr olds. First, do some research as suggested by other posters before going into a bank. Some banks pay employees incentives to open certain types of accounts. I find this highly unethical, but it happens.

    Next - credit scores are determined by an equation based on four factors:

    How long you have had credit - young people are at an automatic disadvantage here
    Payment history - credit bureaus usually report 24 months
    The types of accounts you have - installment loans (like for a car), revolving (credit cards)
    The difference between how much credit you have available (limits on credit cards) and what you owe. The bigger the difference, the higher the credit score.

    Whether you borrow much or not, you need a good credit score to get the best rates on loans, lowest premiums on insurance, and maybe even a job.
  • ZebraBri
    ZebraBri Posts: 60
    Everyone....this has been so incredibly helpful to me. I wish I could respond back to every single one of these. Thank you all so much! If you have more advice, feel free to add something else!

    I'm also so glad someone also asked about credit scores. I understood credit a bit, but since I plan on never getting a credit card, I didn't know how people would find my credit history reliable. But the answers about the credit question helped, too!
  • aegisprncs
    aegisprncs Posts: 236 Member
    One thing I learned early in life that a boss told me, no question is stupid. I live by it, otherwise how would you know? Ask away and don't feel silly about it. I hope you get some answers. :smile:
  • guardian419
    guardian419 Posts: 391 Member
    Whoever said talk to your bank had some good advice. Whenever I get bored I go onto my bank's (USAA) website and do research. I also frequent forbes.com motleyfool.com, and a few other websites. Theres a lot of good advice out there, just make sure its from good sources. The smartest thing you can do, which also was said, is avoid debt. Not to say don't use it at all, because you need some to develop credit, but make sure you use it RIGHT. The WORST thing you can do is use it, get too much, and then be the average american with $15,000 in credit card debt. Not counting house/car, I have $3,000 in CC debt.