Replace all meats in diet with whey?
futuremalestripper
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I like to eat meat, but the last few months it just weighs me down and makes me feel real lousy in general (with seafood being the exception). When I use whey alone as a protein source, I feel a million times better. Are there any downsides to cutting out all meats and just using whey powder alone for your protein source?
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Why not try more natural, whole food options for getting the protein your body needs? Like beans, cheese, yogurt, eggs, etc. That way, you'd have a broader range of nutrition getting into your body, as opposed to limiting yourself to the nutrition gained from whey. Just switch to a vegetarian diet. Millions of folks do just that!
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I don't know about only using whey but I'm a vegetarian, I don't eat any meat at all. There are other things besides meat that has protein. I eat cottage cheese, yogurt, peanut butter, almonds, edamame, soy milk, eggs, beans, legumes, etc.0
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So I just browsed through your food diary. I don't think it's the fact that you eat meat that's making you feel lousy, it's that you ONLY eat meat and simple carbs (granola bars, ice cream, sugary cereal, etc). If you want to feel better, add fruits and vegetables to your diet, I guarantee you'll feel soooo much better.0
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I do drink milk, but I'm also avoiding eggs and I personally dislike soy.I don't know about only using whey but I'm a vegetarian, I don't eat any meat at all. There are other things besides meat that has protein. I eat cottage cheese, yogurt, peanut butter, almonds, edamame, soy milk, eggs, beans, legumes, etc.
As a vegetarian, do you find it hard to hit like 60-70g of protein in a day?
Edit: I honestly feel great all day until I physically eat meat and then I feel bad. I agree that my last week of food hasn't been ideal, but the issue with the meat has been one for months.0 -
Try beans. And if you eat and log more fruits and veggies, you will begin to see that many of them have a good deal of protein, especially dark leafy greens.
I'm making a three bean salad this week and having it over some mixed greens with a few triscuits (love the cracked black pepper and olive oil flavor).
Sometimes I'll do a green salad with just an ounce or two of chicken breast or a few shrimp. Still light, but filling.
As for how you feel, I can honestly tell you that the weeks I get in more fresh fruits and veggies, the better I feel overall. That means more energy, a better disposition, and a lighter feeling allover. I also feel really happy and proud about my choices.0 -
I do drink milk, but I'm also avoiding eggs and I personally dislike soy.I don't know about only using whey but I'm a vegetarian, I don't eat any meat at all. There are other things besides meat that has protein. I eat cottage cheese, yogurt, peanut butter, almonds, edamame, soy milk, eggs, beans, legumes, etc.
As a vegetarian, do you find it hard to hit like 60-70g of protein in a day?
No, not at all. I get 60g of protein in before I even eat dinner. ! cup of cottage cheese has 20g of protein.0 -
Eat more seafood. It has heaps of protein for a low amount of calories.0
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I do drink milk, but I'm also avoiding eggs and I personally dislike soy.I don't know about only using whey but I'm a vegetarian, I don't eat any meat at all. There are other things besides meat that has protein. I eat cottage cheese, yogurt, peanut butter, almonds, edamame, soy milk, eggs, beans, legumes, etc.
As a vegetarian, do you find it hard to hit like 60-70g of protein in a day?
Edit: I honestly feel great all day until I physically eat meat and then I feel bad. I agree that my last week of food hasn't been ideal, but the issue with the meat has been one for months.
Not trying to be judgemental, just trying to help. Find something that you like... even if it's refried beans. A refried bean wrap with lettuce, salsa, plain greek yogurt, and cheese is delicious and lots of protein!0 -
I guess I need to start hitting up the cheese and beans. I really appreciate the input.0
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I am a vegetarian and I eat plenty of beans and cheese and greek yogurt and all the vegetarian protein goodies, but I also supplement with whey. Whey is really easily absorbed- more so than any of the other suggestions, and it makes it easy to get the amount of protein I need to support my workouts. I aim for 130-140g protein a day.
BTW, the protein in cottage cheese IS whey...
ETA- I do eat some soy, but because of thyroid disease, I limit the amount of soy I use.0 -
Greek yogurt is great and high in protein. If you eat smoothies or anything you can just add a scoop in with it. Cottage cheese is also good. I also use hemp hearts which are a good source of protein and easy to sprinkle on anything you eat. If you use your whey in a smoothie, add some hemp hearts and will it add omegas, fiber as well.
I try to eat mainly vegan/vegetarian and I find legumes are awesome for protein. I like to make chili or vegan tacos (lettuce leaves instead of taco shells) with bean filling.
I personally would avoid getting all your protein from one source esp. if you're talking about powdered whey protein. I just think it's better to have a varied diet, although if you try it and it works for you I guess it wouldn't be a big deal.
Are you avoided soy for taste or health reasons? I try not to eat a lot of processed soy stuff but I love edamame (the actual soy bean) and I find it tastes more like a legume than tofu or processed soy. If it's health reasons, lots of vegetarians have soy allergies so you might want to check out the herbivore group and try to get some suggestions from them!0 -
BTW, the protein in cottage cheese IS whey...
Yes, but I feel it's better to eat whole foods, rather than grainy, powdery shakes. Not a fan of the protien powder sludge. I try to eat organic, whole foods. It's like the difference between juicing and eating the whole fruit. Maybe it's psychological, but it just seems healthier to me.
Plus, I'm not trying to attain a muscular frame. I like my girlish figure.
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Eat more seafood. It has heaps of protein for a low amount of calories.
Good idea! Seafood is really easy to prepare too. There are packs of lobster and crab flavoured pollack that you don't even need to cook. You can add them to pasta or with a bit of sauce and veggies.0 -
I don't see any issue in using whey to replace meat. If it makes you feel better, go for it. I don't believe in this paleo diet. I do think you should try to not to eat too many processed food, but science is amazing! I encourage anyone to take advantage of it if it benefits them. I'm not disagreeing with the other food suggestions, but i don't believe you shouldn't use the whey either. Do you what you like and what makes you feel better.0
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I don't believe in this paleo diet. I do think you should try to not to eat too many processed food, but science is amazing! I encourage anyone to take advantage of it if it benefits them.
Yes, because excess refined sugar, toxic chemicals, hormones, plastic, bugs, and rat feces are DELICIOUS! If you've ever seen the inside of a food processing plant, you'd change your mind.
http://www.foodrepublic.com/2012/03/14/6-scary-things-hiding-your-food
http://webecoist.momtastic.com/2009/05/08/10-weird-and-gross-ingredients-in-processed-food/0 -
BTW, the protein in cottage cheese IS whey...
Yes, but I feel it's better to eat whole foods, rather than grainy, powdery shakes. Not a fan of the protien powder sludge. I try to eat organic, whole foods. It's like the difference between juicing and eating the whole fruit. Maybe it's psychological, but it just seems healthier to me.
Plus, I'm not trying to attain a muscular frame. I like my girlish figure.
Riiight. Thank god you picked up on the fact that I'm trying to muscle up like a man. Because whey protein does that. But not if it's in cottage cheese.0 -
I like to eat meat, but the last few months it just weighs me down and makes me feel real lousy in general (with seafood being the exception). When I use whey alone as a protein source, I feel a million times better. Are there any downsides to cutting out all meats and just using whey powder alone for your protein source?
Micronutrients? Most meats have nutrients in them besides protein.0 -
BTW, the protein in cottage cheese IS whey...
Yes, but I feel it's better to eat whole foods, rather than grainy, powdery shakes. Not a fan of the protien powder sludge. I try to eat organic, whole foods. It's like the difference between juicing and eating the whole fruit. Maybe it's psychological, but it just seems healthier to me.
Plus, I'm not trying to attain a muscular frame. I like my girlish figure.
Riiight. Thank god you picked up on the fact that I'm trying to muscle up like a man. Because whey protein does that. But not if it's in cottage cheese.
To each his own but I didn't say anything about your goals. I merely saidthat I don't try to eat 120g of protein a day because that does not fit into my diet plan or goals. I prefer to get nutrients from whole foods. Then I complimented myself. Where did I mention you in there?0 -
BTW, the protein in cottage cheese IS whey...
Yes, but I feel it's better to eat whole foods, rather than grainy, powdery shakes. Not a fan of the protien powder sludge. I try to eat organic, whole foods. It's like the difference between juicing and eating the whole fruit. Maybe it's psychological, but it just seems healthier to me.
Plus, I'm not trying to attain a muscular frame. I like my girlish figure.
Riiight. Thank god you picked up on the fact that I'm trying to muscle up like a man. Because whey protein does that. But not if it's in cottage cheese.
Yep, just like lifting heavy is bad. Duh :P It will make us all beefy man-women...0 -
:laugh: Roarrrrr. :flowerforyou:
BTW, the protein in cottage cheese IS whey...
Yes, but I feel it's better to eat whole foods, rather than grainy, powdery shakes. Not a fan of the protien powder sludge. I try to eat organic, whole foods. It's like the difference between juicing and eating the whole fruit. Maybe it's psychological, but it just seems healthier to me.
Plus, I'm not trying to attain a muscular frame. I like my girlish figure.
Riiight. Thank god you picked up on the fact that I'm trying to muscle up like a man. Because whey protein does that. But not if it's in cottage cheese.
Yep, just like lifting heavy is bad. Duh :P It will make us all beefy man-women...0 -
BTW, the protein in cottage cheese IS whey...
Yes, but I feel it's better to eat whole foods, rather than grainy, powdery shakes. Not a fan of the protien powder sludge. I try to eat organic, whole foods. It's like the difference between juicing and eating the whole fruit. Maybe it's psychological, but it just seems healthier to me.
Plus, I'm not trying to attain a muscular frame. I like my girlish figure.
Protein is protein - 100g of 'food' protein (assuming complete proteins) v 100g of whey protein, micronutients aside, will do pretty much exactly the same thing re muscle development.0 -
That seems extreme. Have you talked to a GI specialist about this?
Ideological discussions aside, you are an omnivore so meat should not be an issue unless there is a medical issue of some sort.
Whole foods are typically the better way to go, with supplementation to be used to um... to supplement the shortfalls from not enough whole foods as opposed to replacing them altogether.
While I use whey as a supplement, I would not want it as my primary protein source.0 -
BTW, the protein in cottage cheese IS whey...
Yes, but I feel it's better to eat whole foods, rather than grainy, powdery shakes. Not a fan of the protien powder sludge. I try to eat organic, whole foods. It's like the difference between juicing and eating the whole fruit. Maybe it's psychological, but it just seems healthier to me.
Plus, I'm not trying to attain a muscular frame. I like my girlish figure.
Riiight. Thank god you picked up on the fact that I'm trying to muscle up like a man. Because whey protein does that. But not if it's in cottage cheese.
To each his own but I didn't say anything about your goals. I merely saidthat I don't try to eat 120g of protein a day because that does not fit into my diet plan or goals. I prefer to get nutrients from whole foods. Then I complimented myself. Where did I mention you in there?
The commentary was about the TYPE of protein, not the AMOUNT of protein. The poster was not even referring to your post - she was responding the the OP.0 -
BTW, the protein in cottage cheese IS whey...
Yes, but I feel it's better to eat whole foods, rather than grainy, powdery shakes. Not a fan of the protien powder sludge. I try to eat organic, whole foods. It's like the difference between juicing and eating the whole fruit. Maybe it's psychological, but it just seems healthier to me.
Plus, I'm not trying to attain a muscular frame. I like my girlish figure.
Riiight. Thank god you picked up on the fact that I'm trying to muscle up like a man. Because whey protein does that. But not if it's in cottage cheese.
To each his own but I didn't say anything about your goals. I merely saidthat I don't try to eat 120g of protein a day because that does not fit into my diet plan or goals. I prefer to get nutrients from whole foods. Then I complimented myself. Where did I mention you in there?
The commentary was about the TYPE of protein, not the AMOUNT of protein. The poster was not even referring to your post - she was responding the the OP.
The response implies that whey powders make you "attain a muscular frame" that she doesn't want and she said she "likes her girlish figure." These statements imply that attaining a muscular frame as a goal makes you look like a man. (It is actually very hard for a woman to bulk up "like a man" btw.)
She directly quoted the other poster. If I was the other poster, I would think she was implying my whey powder intake and my goals of gaining muscle made me want to be a man as well. ::shrug::0 -
Eat more seafood. It has heaps of protein for a low amount of calories.
This. I eat fish twice a week. Those are the days I'm usually way over on protein. Most other days, I'm at or slightly above my protein, and that's with no meat and one dairy product (yogurt). I eat nuts, peanut butter, beans, oatmeal (yes, there's protein in that), tofu, and, when I need it, my own protein shake concoction (using unflavored soy powder, because I get enough sugar elsewhere).0 -
BTW, the protein in cottage cheese IS whey...
Yes, but I feel it's better to eat whole foods, rather than grainy, powdery shakes. Not a fan of the protien powder sludge. I try to eat organic, whole foods. It's like the difference between juicing and eating the whole fruit. Maybe it's psychological, but it just seems healthier to me.
Plus, I'm not trying to attain a muscular frame. I like my girlish figure.
Riiight. Thank god you picked up on the fact that I'm trying to muscle up like a man. Because whey protein does that. But not if it's in cottage cheese.
To each his own but I didn't say anything about your goals. I merely saidthat I don't try to eat 120g of protein a day because that does not fit into my diet plan or goals. I prefer to get nutrients from whole foods. Then I complimented myself. Where did I mention you in there?
The commentary was about the TYPE of protein, not the AMOUNT of protein. The poster was not even referring to your post - she was responding the the OP.
The response implies that whey powders make you "attain a muscular frame" that she doesn't want and she said she "likes her girlish figure." These statements imply that attaining a muscular frame as a goal makes you look like a man. (It is actually very hard for a woman to bulk up "like a man" btw.)
She directly quoted the other poster. If I was the other poster, I would think she was implying my whey powder intake and my goals of gaining muscle made me want to be a man as well. ::shrug::
I'm with ya on that - I chose to ignore that rather ridiculous statement.0 -
I don't believe in this paleo diet. I do think you should try to not to eat too many processed food, but science is amazing! I encourage anyone to take advantage of it if it benefits them.
Yes, because excess refined sugar, toxic chemicals, hormones, plastic, bugs, and rat feces are DELICIOUS! If you've ever seen the inside of a food processing plant, you'd change your mind.
http://www.foodrepublic.com/2012/03/14/6-scary-things-hiding-your-food
http://webecoist.momtastic.com/2009/05/08/10-weird-and-gross-ingredients-in-processed-food/
do you grow your vegetables or hunt your meat or fish? If not, all your food goes through warehouses and plants as well.
I am not easily swayed by hype and fads.0 -
Research is your best bet on this... as someone mentioned there are plenty of other nutrients in meat that you might not be getting from a drink.0
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