what its going on with the scale

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I had to read this several times tonight, why is I've been working out for a week, calorie intake is under my allotment and my scale says up 4lbs. It could be off a little but if things don't add up when I go see my trainer Saturday its not going to be good!

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  • chapparra27
    chapparra27 Posts: 115 Member
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    Are you just beginning?
    It could bet that your retaining fluids! Glycogen stores......your body could be in shock too...When I started it took a while for my body to understand what I was trying to do and that I was going to fuel it. Then it started letting go of un needed calories/fat. Be patient and consistant. It will come off :)
    Also search the group EMTWL (eat more to weigh less) and join. It has helped so many of us :)
  • Robin_Bin
    Robin_Bin Posts: 1,046 Member
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    Many possibilities...

    Are you weighing yourself at a consistent time? (Usually the next thing in the morning after a bathroom trip, without clothes and before a kitchen trip.)
    Are you drinking enough? It sounds counter intuitive to many, but you're less likely to retain fluids, if you drink enough. (Oh, and a related one... check your salt intake.)
    Are you eating enough? Again, sounds counter intuitive, but see...
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/623514-why-do-i-have-to-eat-a-minimum-of-1200-calories
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/607717-long-in-desperate-need-of-help-starvation-mode
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/23912-links-in-mfp-you-want-to-read-again-an
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/3047-700-calories-a-day-and-not-losingd-again
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/453829-2-020-calories-a-day-sounds-nuts-to-me-please-help
    Wrong time of the month?
    For me, true weight (as opposed to the weight of food and drink in my digestive system or clothes, etc.) changes show up after a delay. If I'm very good about exercise and eating this week, it may not show up until next week. Similarly, if I don't do what I should, that won't usually show up on the scale tomorrow, but give it about a week, and it will.
  • Kim55555
    Kim55555 Posts: 987 Member
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    I've started working out why am I still gaining weight!

    You might be interested in reading this

    Article taken from:
    http://www.columbussports.com/content/writers/dan_falkenberg/ive-started-working-out-why-am-i-still-gaining-weight.shtml


    Sorry admins if this is too long but I found the orginal format hard to read.


    By Dan Falkenberg
    Here’s a question I hear all the time, and to be honest, even though I know why it happens, it can still be disheartening to see your client so disappointed because after a few weeks of working out very hard, he hasn’t lost any weight but has actually gained weight instead! This may have even happened to you and left you standing on the scale with a confused look on your face. I think this is a big contributor to why so many people aren’t successful at weight loss programs. Sure, some are just plain lazy and don’t exercise with enough intensity, but some become so discouraged with the scales that they simply just give up. Whatever you do, don’t give up! Here’s why.

    I hope by now that we all know that losing fat takes time and effort. For many, simply hopping onto a treadmill and walking for 20 to 30 minutes isn’t going to cut it; for a very small number of people yes, but for many no. Most of us have to have a very structured and intense program to be successful at dropping the fat.

    Here’s the first step to success. Are you ready? Ignore the scale. Here’s the first step to success. Are you ready? Ignore the scale. That’s right. Don’t even step onto a scale for the first month of your exercise program. I know it’ll be hard, but don’t do it. I know some of you are scale addicts; well, consider this Day 1 of your scale detox program. Remember, a successful “weight” loss program is based on the number of lbs. of fat burned off, not the number of overall lbs. burned off. This is why you see programs out there that guarantee 6 lbs. lost in 6 days. You know what they’re guaranteeing? They’re guaranteeing an eventual 6-10, or more, lbs. being put back on.

    The “yo-yo” effect, I’m sure a lot of you have heard of it before. The “yo-yo” effect is when your body loses weight, then gains weight, then loses weight, and so on. That’s what these types of guarantees are. Sure, some overly obese individuals can lose more than 2 lbs. of fat in a week, but the majority can’t. Losing 6 lbs. is mostly muscle and water, which is a horrible thing. Muscle is vital to your body, so when it loses it, it wants to get it right back, and a lot of times, it’ll put muscle back on and bring excess fat storage with it. This can leave you having more body fat than when you originally started a “weight” loss program.

    Alright, so we’ve established that all weight is not the same. Losing a pound of muscle isn’t good for the body, while losing a pound of fat is (in most cases). Also, hopefully it’s clear why scales aren’t always the best indicator of fat loss. When I evaluate a client’s success, figuring out her body fat percentage is a lot more meaningful to me than seeing the number on the scale. If her body fat stays the same, but she’s smaller on the scale, then that tells me she’s either lost muscle or water. If her body fat is the same, but she’s bigger on the scale, then that tells me that she most likely is retaining water. When both her body fat percentage and weight on the scale drop, then I know that she’s actually losing body fat and achieving success.

    For every gram of glycogen stored, approximately 3 grams of water are stored with it. For those of you who can’t seem to shake your scale addiction, here’s why you need to be prepared for what you’ll see at the start of your weight loss program.

    Like I said earlier, it can be very discouraging when you step onto the scale and see that you haven’t lost any weight and may have evened gained weight. As long as you don’t give up and are doing the right things with eating right and working out hard enough, your body fat will slowly start to come off. You just need to be patient. Don’t give up.

    When you first start an exercise program, your body is basically thrown a curve ball. Your body is used to having to use a certain amount of energy throughout the day, but now that you’re exercising, your body figures out that it needs a greater energy supply. So what happens?

    If you remember, your body’s source of energy comes from glucose. Carbohydrates are broken down into glucose, the glucose is used to make energy, and your body performs how it needs to. Well, your body also has a “reserve tank” for excess glucose. Instead of storing all the excess glucose as fat, your body stores some of the excess glucose in an easier form to break down for energy; it’s called glycogen. Glycogen is long chains of glucose molecules that are stored in our muscles and liver.

    Working out too intensely can cause muscle tears to become overly inflamed to the point where the mini-tears start to swell with fluid. Your body adapts to how much glycogen it needs to store in order to have enough “energy” on stand-by for when your blood sugar starts to drop because there isn’t enough glucose in the bloodstream from the food you last ate. When we start to exercise, our bodies require more energy and become more efficient at getting that energy, so as a result, our bodies start to store more glycogen. Here’s the kicker. For every gram of glycogen stored, approximately 3 grams of water are stored with it. This means that now your body has a larger amount of water and glycogen stored in the muscles and liver, and as a result, your body weight can go up by a few lbs.

    Picture a piece of bread or pasta noodle. What happens when you put them in water? They’re like sponges. They soak up the water and expand. The same can be said with glycogen. Glycogen is a carb, and it sucks up water just like any other carb.

    Here’s another culprit. If you go from not working out to working out very hard, your muscles will most likely be sore for the next 2 or 3 days. This is because when you work out, you essentially create mini-tears in your muscles. Working out too intensely can cause these tears to become overly inflamed to the point where the mini-tears start to swell with fluid. This excess fluid in the muscles can cause an initial, excess weight gain. By starting out an exercise program slowly and working your way up, you reduce the likelihood of tearing your muscles too much. To some extent, though, muscle soreness will occur when you first start exercising, but the amount of soreness and inflammation can be controlled by gradually working into a fitness program.

    If you continue to stick to your weight loss program and don’t become discouraged by the initial weight gain that may result, you’ll slowly start to see the weight come off for good. Rest assured, even though you may be retaining water during that first month of working out, your body is still burning off fat. After a month’s time, that excess water weight and glycogen will still be there, but your body will have started to burn off enough fat to overcome the water weight gains, and you’ll start to see a difference on the scale.

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that the individuals who are the most successful with permanent weight loss are those who don’t see results in the first month. One thing I’ve noticed about my most successful clients, the majority of them actually gained a pound or two during the first month of exercising. My clients who weren’t very successful were those that maintained the same weight during the first month, the second month, and so on. Why? I’d have to say it’s because my most successful clients were working so intensely that they experienced extra glycogen and water storage. My clients who wouldn’t put in the effort didn’t need extra glycogen stored, so they didn’t see any initial weight gains.

    You see, my successful clients saw an extra pound or two on the scale during the first month, but as the program went on, that extra glycogen storage meant their bodies had the extra fuel to stay revved up and burning off excess calories. It also meant that of the food they ate, less was going into fat storage and more was going into “high-octane” glycogen storage. Less fat storage equals faster weight loss.

    So here’s my advice. Don’t be scared of delayed results within the first month. Your body is going through an adaptation process, and it requires some time to prepare itself for its new lifestyle. Keep your exercise intensity up, your eating habits right, and you’ll slowly start to see your fat loss results overcome your new glycogen and water storage results. You’ll slowly start to see that success you set out to achieve.

    Dan Falkenberg is the cofounder of Your Live Trainers. He can be reached at DanFalkenberg.com.

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    http://www.columbussports.com/content/writers/dan_falkenberg/ive-started-working-out-why-am-i-still-gaining-weight.shtml
  • Titanuim
    Titanuim Posts: 337 Member
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    Just bookmarking so I can re-read that article linked by Kim55555 when I am feeling mopey about the scale not shifting depsite exercise.
  • AmandaCaswell1982
    AmandaCaswell1982 Posts: 170 Member
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    I called the scale a bad word the other day- I have the same thing going on this week. *sigh* I wish I had a better answer than "Most of us have been through this".

    Hang in there- maybe next week the scale will be down 4 lbs ;)
  • tinawharrison
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    I read the long article above, it all makes sense. What I don't get is, with my weight loss, things were going nicely for the first 3 months and then bam, I haven't lost now for about 9 weeks! When I do lose it's a pound that I put back on... I'm working out hard and eating healthy (apart from this week because i've been poorly) so why the standstill and gains so late into my programme?

    We should all ban scales, horrible things, they lure you in and make you get on them!!! :laugh: