Doctors Pushing C-Sections
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No, I'm not speaking from personal experience, just reiterating what I've been told my numerous mom's, including several on this thread. I think it's great that you had no pain, but I think most women would after having their abdominal wall cut. Actually, my perinium did not tear, the tear was on my vaginal wall. The doctor was busy with several women that day and I had a nurse that was intent on being the one to deliver the baby. Had she called the doctor in earlier, he would have done the episiotimy and I would have had no complications.I was induced for both of my deliveries. I was induced 2 weeks early with the first. They felt like the baby was large and thought it would be best to delivery a little early than to wait and risk the possiblity of complications and a possible c-section. She was 9 lbs 1 oz and 22 inches long at two weeks early. I had some internal tearing which cause me to lose a liter of blood. The nurse should have called the doctor in sooner for an episotomy. As soon as that was done, one push and she was out. From the time they started the pitocin to delivery was 10 hours. With the second, they induced a week early because I was starting to have blood pressure issues. It was not pre-eclampsia, but my BP would periodically spike. She was 8 lbs 8 oz and delivery was 8 hours with no complications. I was fortunate in that my doctor believed that c-sections should be a last resort and that natural is the best. I agree that it sounds like perhaps your friend is wanting the c-section instead of a natural delivery. She's probably just scared of the pain of labor, not realizing that the pain of a c-section is worse and lasts longer. I have trouble believing that insurance is the reason she has to have a c-section. Maybe she feels that way because this is the only doctor that is covered under her insurance and he is telling her it's necessary. Either way, being supportive is all you really can do. Best of luck to your friend.
C-sections aren't painful. Do you speak from experience ~ I did see that you experienced quite a few complications from your natural birth? I have had 2 and had no pain at all (during or after) I would imagine that tearing your perineum would hurt a heck of a lot more than a neat even barely noticeable incision.0 -
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I was induced for both of my deliveries. I was induced 2 weeks early with the first. They felt like the baby was large and thought it would be best to delivery a little early than to wait and risk the possiblity of complications and a possible c-section. She was 9 lbs 1 oz and 22 inches long at two weeks early. I had some internal tearing which cause me to lose a liter of blood. The nurse should have called the doctor in sooner for an episotomy. As soon as that was done, one push and she was out. From the time they started the pitocin to delivery was 10 hours. With the second, they induced a week early because I was starting to have blood pressure issues. It was not pre-eclampsia, but my BP would periodically spike. She was 8 lbs 8 oz and delivery was 8 hours with no complications. I was fortunate in that my doctor believed that c-sections should be a last resort and that natural is the best. I agree that it sounds like perhaps your friend is wanting the c-section instead of a natural delivery. She's probably just scared of the pain of labor, not realizing that the pain of a c-section is worse and lasts longer. I have trouble believing that insurance is the reason she has to have a c-section. Maybe she feels that way because this is the only doctor that is covered under her insurance and he is telling her it's necessary. Either way, being supportive is all you really can do. Best of luck to your friend.
C-sections aren't painful. Do you speak from experience ~ I did see that you experienced quite a few complications from your natural birth? I have had 2 and had no pain at all (during or after) I would imagine that tearing your perineum would hurt a heck of a lot more than a neat even barely noticeable incision.
C-sections aren't painful? Is this sarcasm? If not, you are extremely lucky that you did not feel any pain at all while recovering from an incision at least four inches wide through your abdominal wall. I'm not even being snarky. I envy that! I was in really bad pain for weeks.0 -
No, I'm not speaking from personal experience, just reiterating what I've been told my numerous mom's, including several on this thread. I think it's great that you had no pain, but I think most women would after having their abdominal wall cut. Actually, my perineum did not tear, the tear was on my vaginal wall. The doctor was busy with several women that day and I had a nurse that was intent on being the one to deliver the baby. Had she called the doctor in earlier, he would have done the episiotimy and I would have had no complications.I was induced for both of my deliveries. I was induced 2 weeks early with the first. They felt like the baby was large and thought it would be best to delivery a little early than to wait and risk the possiblity of complications and a possible c-section. She was 9 lbs 1 oz and 22 inches long at two weeks early. I had some internal tearing which cause me to lose a liter of blood. The nurse should have called the doctor in sooner for an episotomy. As soon as that was done, one push and she was out. From the time they started the pitocin to delivery was 10 hours. With the second, they induced a week early because I was starting to have blood pressure issues. It was not pre-eclampsia, but my BP would periodically spike. She was 8 lbs 8 oz and delivery was 8 hours with no complications. I was fortunate in that my doctor believed that c-sections should be a last resort and that natural is the best. I agree that it sounds like perhaps your friend is wanting the c-section instead of a natural delivery. She's probably just scared of the pain of labor, not realizing that the pain of a c-section is worse and lasts longer. I have trouble believing that insurance is the reason she has to have a c-section. Maybe she feels that way because this is the only doctor that is covered under her insurance and he is telling her it's necessary. Either way, being supportive is all you really can do. Best of luck to your friend.
C-sections aren't painful. Do you speak from experience ~ I did see that you experienced quite a few complications from your natural birth? I have had 2 and had no pain at all (during or after) I would imagine that tearing your perineum would hurt a heck of a lot more than a neat even barely noticeable incision.
Seems to be an awful lot of what ifs, and if onlys regarding vaginal births...IMO a tear is a tear, both would be painful. A scheduled C-section contains a full staff dedicated to just you so no worry about the Dr. or nurses leaving to be somewhere else. Natural births just seem so chaotic and stressful to me. To each their own I guess. As for reiterating what numerous mom's have told you, I could say the same about numerous mom's telling me great things about their C-sections but it would be irrelevant. I can only interject based on my personal experience.
Ultimately, let's just hope that this mom-to-be gets to make her own choice and the one that is right for her and free from being bullied/scared into something that isn't right for her. Us women need to stand up for each other and be united! It is our choice and no one is going to tell us what we can or can't do! woot woot!0 -
I was induced for both of my deliveries. I was induced 2 weeks early with the first. They felt like the baby was large and thought it would be best to delivery a little early than to wait and risk the possiblity of complications and a possible c-section. She was 9 lbs 1 oz and 22 inches long at two weeks early. I had some internal tearing which cause me to lose a liter of blood. The nurse should have called the doctor in sooner for an episotomy. As soon as that was done, one push and she was out. From the time they started the pitocin to delivery was 10 hours. With the second, they induced a week early because I was starting to have blood pressure issues. It was not pre-eclampsia, but my BP would periodically spike. She was 8 lbs 8 oz and delivery was 8 hours with no complications. I was fortunate in that my doctor believed that c-sections should be a last resort and that natural is the best. I agree that it sounds like perhaps your friend is wanting the c-section instead of a natural delivery. She's probably just scared of the pain of labor, not realizing that the pain of a c-section is worse and lasts longer. I have trouble believing that insurance is the reason she has to have a c-section. Maybe she feels that way because this is the only doctor that is covered under her insurance and he is telling her it's necessary. Either way, being supportive is all you really can do. Best of luck to your friend.
C-sections aren't painful. Do you speak from experience ~ I did see that you experienced quite a few complications from your natural birth? I have had 2 and had no pain at all (during or after) I would imagine that tearing your perineum would hurt a heck of a lot more than a neat even barely noticeable incision.
C-sections aren't painful? Is this sarcasm? If not, you are extremely lucky that you did not feel any pain at all while recovering from an incision at least four inches wide through your abdominal wall. I'm not even being snarky. I envy that! I was in really bad pain for weeks.
lol...not sarcastic at all. I took the pain meds that I was given. Yes, I did move a little slower than usual for a few weeks but overall, I would do it again in a heart beat. (perhaps I was so tired at the time that I am forgetting the pain but hey, I was "sitting" around at home with the baby on a maternity leave so I had all the time in the world to recover nicely) lol0 -
they have pretty much scared my friend that she is going to have this huge 12 lb baby. Now she herself was a 10 lb baby and her brother was 10 lb baby so they genectics are there that this could be a big baby but my friend is 6'1" , so she is not a petite woman by any means. So basically they have told her she "HAS" to have a c-section on July 2nd and even if she goes into labor naturally before then she will "HAVE" to have a c-section because the baby will just be "too big"
I had an emergency C with my first born (son). He was 10.8. I had a VBAC with my DD...she was 10.10. No drugs. It wasnt a particularly pleasant experience....my episiotomy went all the way to my rectum and they STILL had to use suction to get her out...pushing wasnt enough. But I got through it...hemorrhoids and all. LOL! Not sure I would do it again without drugs but I would do it again.
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OMG same thing with my sister-in-law!!! It's her first baby and she is 5'10" and they are pushing her to have one just because her husband was a 13 pound baby...it's ridiculous!0
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I birthed 10.5 pounds naturally. It can be done, but it isn't easy.0
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My sister is 5'3" and weighs 120# soaking wet. Her second child was 10lb 3 oz and she had him with no problem. It just depends on the person.0
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Just the facts...............MD's make more $$$ if they do a c-sec. Plus, "if" something goes wrong, they can say "I did everything, I even did a C-section". I work in home health, you would be shocked to see the number of postpartum incision infections. I am 5'6 and had a 9# 6oz boy, he was the easy one of 4 babies and was number 3. Oh, he is 6'5" today. Pregnant people seem to be pressured into csections. Just remember you are the one to give the "consent". It is the paper you sign when they tell you "if you don't your baby might die". Really??? If baby is in position, and the DR's don't push, rush the woman 1 week or so early baby will be fine. Be a hound dog check it out.......Go to the hospital when you are in active labor, not when they say you are "due" the baby will be born when it is ready.0
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I guess I had good OB's....the one that was with me during the VBAC totally dissed what his collegue said about my needed a C....he said to me, "You can have this baby naturally."...and I did.0
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Again, happy for those of you who were able to deliver 12, 13, 14 pound babies naturally with no drugs and were perfectly fine. God made us all different, and He gave doctors the ability to do C-sections. I wish my first had been scheduled and they hadn't missed all that. Then again, I had already spent my pregnancy listening to my mom tell me how I needed to be in good shape because "Real Women deliver babies all the time, only wimps go for C-sections." It took them saying that my baby was crashing and me seeing it on the monitor for me to finally cave, but to this DAY I never hear the end of it from my mom on how I had it easy with both babies.
I would like to know if there will ever be a time when women will stop belittling each other over choices/needs regarding birth, breastfeeding, schooling, etc. Each person makes the choice or does what needs to be done in their eyes for them and their child. Who are we to judge? Maybe the OP's friend fears THIS kind of judgement and pins it all on the doctor/insurance company to avoid the judgement, the labeling, etc.0 -
My hubby is happier as my private area is still nice and tight too! (lol)
You realize things go back to normal after VBAC right? Plus the extra stitch my OB gave me--let's just say things were even tighter afterward.0 -
I go for my first Sonogram on July 3rd. Let the doctor tell me I have to have a c-section. I will get right up and walk out. My mama gave me these child bearing hips...and guess what...I AM GONNA USE EM!0
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I am so outraged over doctors want to push c-sections so much! I know that c-sections have a time and place ( I had an emergency c-section at 32 weeks with my first child) but they have become so common place today it is ridiculous! The reason I bring this us is become my very best friend is expecting her first baby the first week of July and last week they did an ultrasound and measured the baby at approx. 8 lbs (which most of the time ultrasounds this late in the pregnancy are not very accurate in determining size and weight) and so they have pretty much scared my friend that she is going to have this huge 12 lb baby. Now she herself was a 10 lb baby and her brother was 10 lb baby so they genectics are there that this could be a big baby but my friend is 6'1" , so she is not a petite woman by any means. So basically they have told her she "HAS" to have a c-section on July 2nd and even if she goes into labor naturally before then she will "HAVE" to have a c-section because the baby will just be "too big" Total BS.
my second sons heart stopped 7 times before they eventually gave me emergency section to get him out! seems in Glasgow they are more against it than where you are!0 -
The thing that makes me mad is that she doesn't think she has a choice in the matter. She keeps telling me that they can force her to have a c-section because she's on state health insurance. I think she's just really afraid of labor and so this is her way of trying to avoid the discomfort of labor. The whole thing just makes me really irritated.
yes because c sections are so comfratable and you just bounce right back from them:laugh:0 -
I'm still bitter about my c-sections, and I do hope that your friend considers all her options and does some research. It's easy to be scared or pressured into making a decision you might later regret. (Not saying all c-sections are a bad idea, or that all mothers will regret them)
I had my son at 19- I was in active labor, he was breech, and they told me I "had" to have a c-section, because it's "hospital policy when the baby is breech". I was young, I was scared, and it was a military hospital with a lot of chaos at the time (Bush chose that night to declare war!) and I was pressured into a decision I didn't want to make. I wish I knew then what I know now, I wish someone had told me I had the right to make that decision for myself, instead of having it made for me.
Best of luck to your friend, no matter what her ultimate choice is!0 -
If someone tells you that you HAVE to do this or your baby will DIE, then you don't take risks!
Why is this hard for people to understand? Why do people always feel it necessary to dictate to someone else how to live their lives? This is her choice! If she feels that the risk is too great, then she feels that it is her only choice. Leave your friend alone and let her live her life.
Though, I do want to point out that protocol with the first delivery is to wait until the mother goes into labor to see if delivery might be successful. I don't know how well you know her, but this might not be her first delivery. She may have previously lost a baby under similar circumstances. C-sections aren't always successful just like natural childbirth isn't. Someone has to make the judgment call... and honestly, shouldn't that call be left up to the mother and the doctor?0 -
The thing that makes me mad is that she doesn't think she has a choice in the matter. She keeps telling me that they can force her to have a c-section because she's on state health insurance. I think she's just really afraid of labor and so this is her way of trying to avoid the discomfort of labor. The whole thing just makes me really irritated.
yes because c sections are so comfratable and you just bounce right back from them:laugh:
I think some people view them as more convenient. Until you have one, you can't possibly understand that pain. I don't know that I could explain to somebody how it felt. People just assume it is some minor thing. It is major surgery. I ended up having to have an emergency abdominal surgery months after my second one because the doc twisted my ovary. I had to have it removed. There is nothing simple or easy about them. Sometimes they are totally necessary. Hopefully most of the time they are totally necessary. I just really hate when people act like I can't possibly understand how to have a baby because I did it the easy way - almost dying and having an emergency c-section....0 -
I was induced for both of my deliveries. I was induced 2 weeks early with the first. They felt like the baby was large and thought it would be best to delivery a little early than to wait and risk the possiblity of complications and a possible c-section. She was 9 lbs 1 oz and 22 inches long at two weeks early. I had some internal tearing which cause me to lose a liter of blood. The nurse should have called the doctor in sooner for an episotomy. As soon as that was done, one push and she was out. From the time they started the pitocin to delivery was 10 hours. With the second, they induced a week early because I was starting to have blood pressure issues. It was not pre-eclampsia, but my BP would periodically spike. She was 8 lbs 8 oz and delivery was 8 hours with no complications. I was fortunate in that my doctor believed that c-sections should be a last resort and that natural is the best. I agree that it sounds like perhaps your friend is wanting the c-section instead of a natural delivery. She's probably just scared of the pain of labor, not realizing that the pain of a c-section is worse and lasts longer. I have trouble believing that insurance is the reason she has to have a c-section. Maybe she feels that way because this is the only doctor that is covered under her insurance and he is telling her it's necessary. Either way, being supportive is all you really can do. Best of luck to your friend.
C-sections aren't painful. Do you speak from experience ~ I did see that you experienced quite a few complications from your natural birth? I have had 2 and had no pain at all (during or after) I would imagine that tearing your perineum would hurt a heck of a lot more than a neat even barely noticeable incision.
Not painful? Lucky you. I would disagree strongly with the assessment that it is no pain. I couldn't walk properly after my first one for weeks.0 -
The thing that makes me mad is that she doesn't think she has a choice in the matter. She keeps telling me that they can force her to have a c-section because she's on state health insurance. I think she's just really afraid of labor and so this is her way of trying to avoid the discomfort of labor. The whole thing just makes me really irritated.
yes because c sections are so comfratable and you just bounce right back from them:laugh:
I think some people view them as more convenient. Until you have one, you can't possibly understand that pain. I don't know that I could explain to somebody how it felt. People just assume it is some minor thing. It is major surgery. I ended up having to have an emergency abdominal surgery months after my second one because the doc twisted my ovary. I had to have it removed. There is nothing simple or easy about them. Sometimes they are totally necessary. Hopefully most of the time they are totally necessary. I just really hate when people act like I can't possibly understand how to have a baby because I did it the easy way - almost dying and having an emergency c-section....
Ive had natural and a c section,the c section was 20 times more painfull are more difficult to recover from. but it doesnt really matter most of the ignorant statements made about c sections come from people that have never had one0 -
funny, I wanted a c section right off the bat and they wouldnt give me one until my son was in danger because his heart rate was dropping super low. My water had broken many hours before and was full of meconium and they still wanted to draw it out longer. they thought the cord was wrapped around his neck and I had to fight with them to just get him out before any damage was done!0
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Sounds to me like the doctor doesn't want the chance of having to come in on July 4th to deliver a baby so he is trying to push her to schedule one early. But I totally agree with the op, I would never opt to have a c-section if I knew there was a chance I could have a vaginal birth. My preference....0
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I am sorry, but if the doctor told me the baby would be too big then I would do the c-section.
Some babies are too big. These days with all the hormones they pump into our foods it is no surprise.
My mother was a small woman and I was a very big baby but I almost killed her. She said that when she was pushing she could hear her hips cracking and grinding...and then right after she hemmorraged really bad and passed out. They had to perform emergency measures to save her life. This would have been a situation where a c-section would have been better...0 -
Your friend cannot be forced into a c-section. She has to sign paperwork. Tell her to educate herself- give her some good links, etc.
To whomever said that c-sections are not painful... well aren't you just wonder woman. I had two emergency c-sections after laboring endlessly prior, without medication. You cannot possibly speak for all c-sectioned women.0 -
I just had my 5th c-section 2.5 weeks ago because all of mine were breech. They tried an inversion with my first one but not with any of the others.
As for determining the c-section for your friends potentially large child, I can see where they would opt for it (had a friend who had a narrow pelvis and a large headed child, she sat in labor for over 24 hours before they determined she was too small to push the child out).
I trust that most OB's will do the right thing for the baby and the mother, but yes I do agree that c-sections seem to be taking more of a favor than a natural birth.0 -
My doctors office has 3 doctors in practice and my main one told me the same thing but I'm 5'1 and was going to have a ten pound baby. As soon as I hit 37 weeks I was already dialating and walked non stop because I was so afraid of going to 40 weeks and having a c section. I had him at 37 weeks 3 days and he was 8 pounds six ounces... And I did not need a c section. I'm sure she'll be fine but I completely agree with you!!! I hate that they do that too!!!!0
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I am so outraged over doctors want to push c-sections so much! I know that c-sections have a time and place ( I had an emergency c-section at 32 weeks with my first child) but they have become so common place today it is ridiculous! The reason I bring this us is become my very best friend is expecting her first baby the first week of July and last week they did an ultrasound and measured the baby at approx. 8 lbs (which most of the time ultrasounds this late in the pregnancy are not very accurate in determining size and weight) and so they have pretty much scared my friend that she is going to have this huge 12 lb baby. Now she herself was a 10 lb baby and her brother was 10 lb baby so they genectics are there that this could be a big baby but my friend is 6'1" , so she is not a petite woman by any means. So basically they have told her she "HAS" to have a c-section on July 2nd and even if she goes into labor naturally before then she will "HAVE" to have a c-section because the baby will just be "too big" Total BS.
BTDT! I am also 6'1' and have had big babies. (8/14, 10, 9/12, 8/13) My 10 pounder almost killed me...not literally
but the birth was possible. After I had my second I had a Dr that was pushing for my 3rd to be a C section, she went as far as putting in my records that I was an elective C section. I made sure to correct her as soon as I saw it & gave her a piece of my mind!
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I just had my baby 12 weeks ago. I had to have a c-section after 2 and a half days of labor. I couldn't get past 5 cm go figure. Though my mom could never get past 6 so she had 3 c-sections. I was on state health insurance at the time and they don't care which one you do. My baby was 20 inches and 8lb 9oz. Sadly I am still recovering from my c-section. The wound just wont heal. And sadly when they were pulling my daughter out the medicine had worn off and i felt everything. They put me to sleep and I woke up when they were sewing me back up. C-sections are not always the way to go.
To be honest I was afraid of natural birth and my doctor was trying to push a c-section. I would suggest for your friend to try natural first. A c-section is major surgery and can take a long time to heal. And make it hard to take care of her baby.0
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