to those who dislike Jillian Michaels

While I am sure you are right about the pills, I myself despise any type of diet pill also simply because it could be harmful to you and its not sustainable, I mean..do you really plan on taking those the rest of your life in order to lose pounds? You need to be able to do it with the food you eat and the exercise you do.

BUT..I will have to disagree with you on the Biggest Loser Show. I do not think its a sham and I think its a wonderful show that helps people become healthy again, how to be healthy, how to eat, how to work out, and also deals with the underlying issues of what caused them to gain weight and give up in the first place. That being said, they do push them hard, very hard and that type of workout, or I should say the length of time isnt sustainable in real life. Should you lose 10+ pounds a week in normal life? No! But these are highly obese people who's life is on the line. Many are facing death in the very near future if they dont change and do something drastic and sometimes drastic is what is needed. Have there been injuries that have occurred on the show? Yes, but not a whole lot. They are under strict supervision of a doctor the entire time and the trainers work with them, they know their entire background and all about them. And they are not starving them, I think if Im not mistaken the women eat at 1200 a day and the men like 1500? either way, they both eat at least at 1200 and yes they do burn like 3500 a day or whatever high number it is, but they do eat and they aren't starving.

And your quote about almost all gain the weight back is just simply false from everything I have read and seen. Yes some gain weight back. 40 to 45% will gain SOME of the weight back within a yr after the show. To me thats pretty good odds considering that these people where starring death in the face!! And is it the biggest losers fault that they have gained weight back? NO!! It is still all about their choices, their workout routines and what they feed themselves. And the biggest loser does a excellent job at trying to teach them how to live in real life with it, how to handle stress and temptation and they deal with issues that caused them to put on the weight in the first place!

Some will go back and gain weight, alot dont!! But they are taking severe cases and trying to change their lives before they die. It is a show also...they want good ratings etc and they do things and show things that intrigue the audience and catch their attention but I bet you, you go and ask alot of the contestants how they feel about it and alot will say they owe their life to them!!

Just my personal opinion though!:) :flowerforyou:

While I am sure you are right about the pills, I myself despise any type of diet pill also simply because it could be harmful to you and its not sustainable, I mean..do you really plan on taking those the rest of your life in order to lose pounds? You need to be able to do it with the food you eat and the exercise you do.

BUT..I will have to disagree with you on the Biggest Loser Show. I do not think its a sham and I think its a wonderful show that helps people become healthy again, how to be healthy, how to eat, how to work out, and also deals with the underlying issues of what caused them to gain weight and give up in the first place. That being said, they do push them hard, very hard and that type of workout, or I should say the length of time isnt sustainable in real life. Should you lose 10+ pounds a week in normal life? No! But these are highly obese people who's life is on the line. Many are facing death in the very near future if they dont change and do something drastic and sometimes drastic is what is needed. Have there been injuries that have occurred on the show? Yes, but not a whole lot. They are under strict supervision of a doctor the entire time and the trainers work with them, they know their entire background and all about them. And they are not starving them, I think if Im not mistaken the women eat at 1200 a day and the men like 1500? either way, they both eat at least at 1200 and yes they do burn like 3500 a day or whatever high number it is, but they do eat and they aren't starving.

And your quote about almost all gain the weight back is just simply false from everything I have read and seen. Yes some gain weight back. 40 to 45% will gain SOME of the weight back within a yr after the show. To me thats pretty good odds considering that these people where starring death in the face!! And is it the biggest losers fault that they have gained weight back? NO!! It is still all about their choices, their workout routines and what they feed themselves. And the biggest loser does a excellent job at trying to teach them how to live in real life with it, how to handle stress and temptation and they deal with issues that caused them to put on the weight in the first place!

Some will go back and gain weight, alot dont!! But they are taking severe cases and trying to change their lives before they die. It is a show also...they want good ratings etc and they do things and show things that intrigue the audience and catch their attention but I bet you, you go and ask alot of the contestants how they feel about it and alot will say they owe their life to them!!

Just my personal opinion though!:) :flowerforyou:

Regardless of how many people on the show lose weight or not, considering that show is seen by millions of people the world over, they have a responsibility to show people not only how to eat and exercise properly (which they do on a limited extent), they also need to show that doing so takes time. Instead, it demonstrates results that are both unrealistic and unsustainable, which is why they deserve so much scorn. It paints a completely unrealistic portrayal of health and fitness and unfortunately, a lot of people aren't smart enough to know the difference.

Also, the contestants on the show may have the nutritionists, trainers and doctors on site, but what about the people at home trying to better themselves? How are they supposed to possibly live up to these unrealistic results without all of those resources?

Well, for one thing, the Biggest Loser, which is the only reason anyone's ever heard of her, is a complete sham. It gives people a completely unrealistic set of expectations regarding weight loss and healthy living. Almost all of the contestants gain weight back after leaving the show- partly because they're not working out as much, but more importantly, they're manipulated into starving and/or dehydrating themselves to push their numbers down.

Second, she's attached her name and likeness to a line of supplements that are the basis for several ongoing lawsuits. One of these products is called "Calorie Control" which promises, directly on the front of the box to "Reduce Caloric Intake". If that claim alone isn't enough for a lawsuit, then I don't know what is.

Third, since leaving the show that's made her famous, she hasn't shied away from any opportunity to plaster her photoshopped likeness to any product. In addition to her line of supplements, she has books, DVDs, a treadmill, etc. All of these products offer claims that are unrealistic and give consumers a false sense of confidence. It's clear she's more interested in maintaining her fame than actually helping people to live healthier.

Fourth, there have been multiple complaints about her qualifications as a trainer. Sure, she pushes her "clients" to work harder and give maximal effort, but often times this results in injury. Any trainer worth a damn has to have the health of their client as their highest priority, even if this comes at the expense of maximal effort. A trainer does need to push their client to work hard, but more importantly, they need to ensure that the exercises are being performed correctly in order to not only maximize their effectiveness but also to avoid injury.

While I am sure you are right about the pills, I myself despise any type of diet pill also simply because it could be harmful to you and its not sustainable, I mean..do you really plan on taking those the rest of your life in order to lose pounds? You need to be able to do it with the food you eat and the exercise you do.

BUT..I will have to disagree with you on the Biggest Loser Show. I do not think its a sham and I think its a wonderful show that helps people become healthy again, how to be healthy, how to eat, how to work out, and also deals with the underlying issues of what caused them to gain weight and give up in the first place. That being said, they do push them hard, very hard and that type of workout, or I should say the length of time isnt sustainable in real life. Should you lose 10+ pounds a week in normal life? No! But these are highly obese people who's life is on the line. Many are facing death in the very near future if they dont change and do something drastic and sometimes drastic is what is needed. Have there been injuries that have occurred on the show? Yes, but not a whole lot. They are under strict supervision of a doctor the entire time and the trainers work with them, they know their entire background and all about them. And they are not starving them, I think if Im not mistaken the women eat at 1200 a day and the men like 1500? either way, they both eat at least at 1200 and yes they do burn like 3500 a day or whatever high number it is, but they do eat and they aren't starving.

And your quote about almost all gain the weight back is just simply false from everything I have read and seen. Yes some gain weight back. 40 to 45% will gain SOME of the weight back within a yr after the show. To me thats pretty good odds considering that these people where starring death in the face!! And is it the biggest losers fault that they have gained weight back? NO!! It is still all about their choices, their workout routines and what they feed themselves. And the biggest loser does a excellent job at trying to teach them how to live in real life with it, how to handle stress and temptation and they deal with issues that caused them to put on the weight in the first place!

Some will go back and gain weight, alot dont!! But they are taking severe cases and trying to change their lives before they die. It is a show also...they want good ratings etc and they do things and show things that intrigue the audience and catch their attention but I bet you, you go and ask alot of the contestants how they feel about it and alot will say they owe their life to them!!

Just my personal opinion though!:) :flowerforyou:

Because she puts her name on products that I think are detrimental to health, sustainable weight loss and creates a culture of misinformation. She's also part of the mainstream diet machine and that whole institution makes me twitchy.

Another very valid reason. Around the time she rolled out her "7 day Detox" or whatever the hell it is called, she lost me.

Because she puts her name on products that I think are detrimental to health, sustainable weight loss and creates a culture of misinformation. She's also part of the mainstream diet machine and that whole institution makes me twitchy.

Simply put- I disagree with her. I don't know her personally so can't speak to her as a person.

*sigh* and I'm sure someone will quote me in a reply and try to argue about my opinion because after all, this is MFP, and opinions must be fought over.