Really TV listings Why Are Thin People Not Fat?

NOPE!
Here we have a bunch of sniveling TV crybabies rationalizing obesity.
It's a pathetic attempt to pander to our sick society and coddle those who are too lazy to affect change in their fitness.
Sometimes the so called "experts" are nothing more than excuse generators.
BELIEVE IT NOT!

:laugh: I call bull on that one. People have different body types yes, my friend finds it hard to build muscle or put on fat and he eats like a beast. I don't doubt that some find it hard the other way around too but it's nothing that some attention and discipline wont fix.

I've seen people on here who have lost weight with thyroid disorders and pcos. I'm pretty damn sure that there are many that will never put the weight back on, some will but that's a different story.

NOPE!
Here we have a bunch of sniveling TV crybabies rationalizing obesity.
It's a pathetic attempt to pander to our sick society and coddle those who are too lazy to affect change in their fitness.
Sometimes the so called "experts" are nothing more than excuse generators.
BELIEVE IT NOT!

love this - it is so true that people constantly make excuses for the state of their lives. trying to convince themslves that they are over weight because of genetics or some other nonsense when the truth is - they eat too much! plain and simple! i know i got fat because i used the excuse of eating for two when i was pregnant with my sons and ate like a pig, now i am paying for it with hours working out and calorie counting! only way to do it!

I think what it does mean though is that it's more like managing a chronic condition, whereas for the skinny students it was more like an acute one-off overweight state that very quickly went back to their body's status quo.

That's pretty similar to what the research shows. We have a sort of 'fat thermostat' by which our bodies try to keep our weight stable. Metabolism can double or halve automatically. Appetite can be hugely stimulated if our bodies think we're starving.

That's why I think a slow-and-steady approach is best, it gives our bodies time to readjust. Crash diets are especially prone to yo-yo rebounds.

There's a great book that summarizes all the research into weight and obesity over more than a century called "Rethinking Thin" by Gina Kolata. I read that one to learn the biology I'm up against, and then "Thin For Life" to remind myself real people overcome that biology all the time! :-)

:laugh: I call bull on that one. People have different body types yes, my friend finds it hard to build muscle or put on fat and he eats like a beast. I don't doubt that some find it hard the other way around too but it's nothing that some attention and discipline wont fix.

I've seen people on here who have lost weight with thyroid disorders and pcos. I'm pretty damn sure that there are many that will never put the weight back on, some will but that's a different story.

I'm one of the latter. I've lost nearly 50lbs over the last year, and, though I've had some setbacks here and there, I'm still just as dedicated and determined to lose the weight as I was when I started. I remember what it was like to be thin and athletic, and I'm not stopping til I get back there. I've got too much at stake to give up now, and I refuse to let ANYONE tell me that it can't be done. I've known too many people who have done it to believe that it's impossible.

The world is a complicated place with money drivers - nothing to do with fact.

Your fat you watch a program on fatness sponsored by fat food peddler. What is the conclusion likely to be. I always look to America to think of large corporations shaping popular bollox - but its just as prevalent in the UK, just more subtle.

^^^Yup! There's people all over the world out to make a buck off the gullibility of others. Some do it legally...they're called corporate advertisers. Others do it illegally, they're called con artists. For me, there is no distinction. You can't trust what someone says just because they're an "expert" and/or they have a few extra letters after their name.

NOPE!
Here we have a bunch of sniveling TV crybabies rationalizing obesity.
It's a pathetic attempt to pander to our sick society and coddle those who are too lazy to affect change in their fitness.
Sometimes the so called "experts" are nothing more than excuse generators.
BELIEVE IT NOT!

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I only caught the last part where the Doctors concluded that if you are thin get fat then lose weight it's possible. But if you've always been fat you will never be as slim.

These "doctors" need to study the MFP Success Stories :flowerforyou:

So from a 4 week study of a limited amount of people they conclude fat is fat and you need to just be fat. We might as well all pack up everyone, the TV Quack has sorted it out. Where's the cream cakes?

Alternatively, its bull****.

Yes it may take some people more effort to keep weight off, and yes its easy to think "Bloody hell she never puts weight on no matter what she eats" but so what, if you dont want to try then stop, just let your body find its natural level and stay there, My natural level all things being equal is way higher than I care to be.

There comes a point when you drop an object that the speed caused by gravity and the pressure caused by the air meeting it cancel each other out and it will not fall any faster. Its called temrminal velocity. I believe that (without taking depression etc into account) there is a point where the food we eat is cancelled out by the amount of calories we need to just live + the exercise we do on top. For some its very low, for me its quite high because I'm very lazy. Its an effort to change that, but if it was easy we wouldnt be on here in the first place. Losing tens of lbs wouldnt be the achievement it undoubtedly is.

There is a certain irony that the TV which exists to make money from advertising and making us sit on our arses for as long as possible is preaching about what is healthy and what isn't.

You're all doing great, bollocks to what some quack on tv says for money to suit the programme makers agenda.

It is like any research project, you can get the result you want if you have the right sample or sample size. How many students? If you had 10 students, and 9 gained weight, it is 90% of them gained weight, but if you have 10,000 students, and 9 gained weight, it is only 0.009%, which would be statistically insignificant. They wouldn't want to do a study on people on MFP success stories, because it wouldn't give them the results they want.

There was also a documentary on BBC2 last night about the fast food industry... it was called 'meet the men who made us fat' or something like that... if anyone is interested it should be on Iplayer x

NOPE!
Here we have a bunch of sniveling TV crybabies rationalizing obesity.
It's a pathetic attempt to pander to our sick society and coddle those who are too lazy to affect change in their fitness.
Sometimes the so called "experts" are nothing more than excuse generators.
BELIEVE IT NOT!

love this - it is so true that people constantly make excuses for the state of their lives. trying to convince themslves that they are over weight because of genetics or some other nonsense when the truth is - they eat too much! plain and simple! i know i got fat because i used the excuse of eating for two when i was pregnant with my sons and ate like a pig, now i am paying for it with hours working out and calorie counting! only way to do it!

This is true, although it will always be more of a challenge for the chronically overweight to lose and maintain their weight loss. The fat cells are already there and will only shrink or get bigger, the only way to make it easier to maintain is to get lipo so the fat cells are removed permanently therefore can't get bigger again. This will make it easier to maintain, not that it takes the problem away, because it is just as easy to get lazy again and grow new ones. It's a Catch 22.

There's some new studies floating around that suggest the number of adipose cells can increase during obesity and stay that way even when the weight is lost (that is, they empty their lipid contents but the extra fat cells themselves are still hanging around waiting for the day they can get filled back up). So yep, once you've been to bigsville, the urge to revisit is always stronger.

2) I feel sick when eating excessively fatty or creamy things -- something has changed!

Thats me, I feel ill if I have milk now. I stopped having it in coffee and it literally makes me feel sick if I have any now. I can also smell milk on people's breath. Odd maybe but there you go