Why the double standard???

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I have read on here time and time again people being critizised for eating to little between 1000-1200 cals/day (which, trust me I know its not healthy and I myself try not to go under 1200.) My question is why is that so publicy bashed but when people eat 1200-1600 cals/day and then go excerise and burn 400-600 cals per workout no one says a word?? And I see this ALL the time....
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  • jppd47
    jppd47 Posts: 737 Member
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    you must be looking in the wrong threads. I have seen multiples times people say the eat 1200 a day but burn 400 and others try to show them how they are netting less then 1200 for the day.
  • omma_to_3
    omma_to_3 Posts: 3,265 Member
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    you must be looking in the wrong threads. I have seen multiples times people say the eat 1200 a day but burn 400 and others try to show them how they are netting less then 1200 for the day.

    That.
  • mcrowe1016
    mcrowe1016 Posts: 647 Member
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    There is no double standard. Both are bashed.
  • LabRat529
    LabRat529 Posts: 1,323 Member
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    I have read on here time and time again people being critizised for eating to little between 1000-1200 cals/day (which, trust me I know its not healthy and I myself try not to go under 1200.) My question is why is that so publicy bashed but when people eat 1200-1600 cals/day and then go excerise and burn 400-600 cals per workout no one says a word?? And I see this ALL the time....

    I don't have a double standard. I think it's foolish either way. Unless you're on a medically supervised diet, you should not be NETTING so few calories.

    For the record, I think 1200 is still too low for most people.
  • losingitincollege
    losingitincollege Posts: 70 Member
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    Hmmm. I've noticed this going back and forth on my news feed. Personally, I don't look at anyone's food diaries and activity logs. And, to be perfectly honest, it's not of interest to me. *shrugs*

    The only thing, however, that would ruffle my feathers is if I saw someone posting statuses about wanting to eat a ridiculously low amount of calories a day. Surviving on 600 calories a day isn't cool.

    I guess I'm here to observe the comments on this one. :)
  • jquijas
    jquijas Posts: 222 Member
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    There is no double standard. Both are bashed.

    ^^This^^
    My calorie goal is to net 2100 calories, for everyone it is different the biggest thing is not to go below your BMR
  • MrsBully4
    MrsBully4 Posts: 304 Member
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    MFP seems to estimate calories burned at a hilariously high rate. It once claimed I burned almost 900 calories doing 15 minutes of elliptical and a few machines. I did not eat back 900 calories that day.
  • tomhancock
    tomhancock Posts: 100 Member
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    There is no double standard. Both are bashed.

    ^^This^^
    My calorie goal is to net 2100 calories, for everyone it is different the biggest thing is not to go below your BMR

    There isn't a single verified, peer-reviewed medical study saying that eating below your BMR is bad for you. In fact, there are numerous studies showing that eating below your BMR can lead to healthy weight loss.

    What you posted is basically a MFP urban legend.
  • jppd47
    jppd47 Posts: 737 Member
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    There is no double standard. Both are bashed.

    ^^This^^
    My calorie goal is to net 2100 calories, for everyone it is different the biggest thing is not to go below your BMR

    There isn't a single verified, peer-reviewed medical study saying that eating below your BMR is bad for you. In fact, there are numerous studies showing that eating below your BMR can lead to healthy weight loss.

    What you posted is basically a MFP urban legend.

    I agreeish
    Its person to person dependent. It also depends on your end goals and how you go about it
  • omma_to_3
    omma_to_3 Posts: 3,265 Member
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    There is no double standard. Both are bashed.

    ^^This^^
    My calorie goal is to net 2100 calories, for everyone it is different the biggest thing is not to go below your BMR

    There isn't a single verified, peer-reviewed medical study saying that eating below your BMR is bad for you. In fact, there are numerous studies showing that eating below your BMR can lead to healthy weight loss.

    What you posted is basically a MFP urban legend.

    I agreeish
    Its person to person dependent. It also depends on your end goals and how you go about it

    I suspect this is correct as well, though I haven't done the research review to verify none exists. I have upped my net from 1200 calories, and I did start losing at a slower rate. But yay, I'm eating more. Mine is still only at 1400 though. My BMR should be around 1530. Given the exercise I do though, I'm eating anywhere from 1400 to 2000+ calories a day because I eat back my exercise calories.
  • tmauck4472
    tmauck4472 Posts: 1,785 Member
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    Hmmm. I've noticed this going back and forth on my news feed. Personally, I don't look at anyone's food diaries and activity logs. And, to be perfectly honest, it's not of interest to me. *shrugs*

    The only thing, however, that would ruffle my feathers is if I saw someone posting statuses about wanting to eat a ridiculously low amount of calories a day. Surviving on 600 calories a day isn't cool.

    I guess I'm here to observe the comments on this one. :)

    I survive on between 600 and 800 depending on my workouts and I don't have a problem with it so why should you? I'm doing this for me not for anyone else. I don't plan on eating this way for much longer maybe a month or two. I don't encourage anyone else to eat this way I don't see the problem. And if someone asks me what I eat then I tell them, why lie? they can see my diary.
    BTW, I have tons of energy, I don't feel hungry and if I do I eat some veggies to compensate.
  • Onaughmae
    Onaughmae Posts: 873 Member
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    I think its an individual thing. I am averaging around 900-1050 cal a day. I dont eat back exercise points. In my case, I cant physically eat that much food even if I wanted to. So I make the best choices I can and I try really hard to make my protein goal of at least 70gm day. I am slowly getting there. Once I can eat all my calories in food I will be happy to do so. But not all of us are trying to crash diet or starve to death. I go to the gym regularly and work out at home. I have more energy now than I have had in years. Everyone has to do what works for them. The most important thing is to develop a healthy relationship with food and nutrition. IMHO, of course :)
  • amivox
    amivox Posts: 441 Member
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    I have my goal set to NET 1450, I eat usually like 2000-2100 which is right around my TDEE-15-20%, so I just calculate it that way. I have friends on my list that eat below 1200 net. I never comment on their diaries, but I don't bash them. I just don't write good job unless they net more than 1200... which I still sometimes think is low
  • LabRat529
    LabRat529 Posts: 1,323 Member
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    There isn't a single verified, peer-reviewed medical study saying that eating below your BMR is bad for you. In fact, there are numerous studies showing that eating below your BMR can lead to healthy weight loss.

    What you posted is basically a MFP urban legend.

    You are probably correct. I haven't done the research. However, there ARE plenty of peer-reviewed medical studies that indicate that a modest calorie deficit is more sustainable and leads to less re-gain in the long run than extreme deficits. The numbers people assign to the 'correct' deficit are somewhat arbitrary, but regardless, slow losers usually do better than fast in the long run.

    Please note the use of the word 'usually'. There are always exceptions to the rule, and certainly the very obese do well on very low calorie diets when being supervised by a doctor or weight loss specialist. Supervision is important to ensure that the dieter gets the correct ratio of macro and micro nutrients to maintain optimal health.
  • carld256
    carld256 Posts: 855 Member
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    I'm honestly beginning to think that exercise calories do not equal food calories one to one. Food calories just seem to have more impact on weight loss than burned off exercise calories. Maybe it's because you unconsciously preserve your energy after a workout. I'm not sure. But that's the way it seems to work to me.
  • minkakross
    minkakross Posts: 687 Member
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    I don't really think anyone should be critisized for the calories they are eating regardless if they are on high or very low caloric intake or eating their exercise calories back or not. It's irritating that these boards often become a forum for every arm chair expert and fitness trainer in training to "correct" everyone because they didn't do it the right way aka their way. but unless you are my doctor and know the ins and outs of my family and personal medical history you really should stick to a have you tried this... or this worked for me.... approach as everything else is simply arrogant and only really applicable to a portion of the MFP members who are most like you in the way their body responds to food and exercise and frankly that's hard, no impossible, to judge by a profile pic and a diary entry.
  • vade43113
    vade43113 Posts: 836 Member
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    bump
  • MaraDiaz
    MaraDiaz Posts: 4,604 Member
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    Well, right or wrong, there are people who have posted their doctor told them they don't have to eat back exercise calories. Except under constant supervision, I don't think anyone's doctor has recommended living on 400 calories a day. So if there is a double standard, it doesn't just exist here.

    In fact, before I found this site, I had never heard of eating back exercise calories. All those silly weight loss diets recommended 1200 calories or so plus exercise. Period.
  • reyopo
    reyopo Posts: 210 Member
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    I'm honestly beginning to think that exercise calories do not equal food calories one to one. Food calories just seem to have more impact on weight loss than burned off exercise calories. Maybe it's because you unconsciously preserve your energy after a workout. I'm not sure. But that's the way it seems to work to me.

    I thought it was just me! Thank you...eating back exercise cals (even since I started using an HRM) is NOT working for me. I am building muscle mass, but I'm still determined to drop those last 6-9 lbs. I've been patient, but all I've seen is a gradual 2-3 lb gain over the last 6 weeks or so. I recently changed my settings back to "lose 2 lbs a week" and "sedentary", but I think the next step may be to set my cals target at BMR and lot log exercise at all.
  • monet13
    monet13 Posts: 324 Member
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    I don't really think anyone should be critisized for the calories they are eating regardless if they are on high or very low caloric intake or eating their exercise calories back or not. It's irritating that these boards often become a forum for every arm chair expert and fitness trainer in training to "correct" everyone because they didn't do it the right way aka their way. but unless you are my doctor and know the ins and outs of my family and personal medical history you really should stick to a have you tried this... or this worked for me.... approach as everything else is simply arrogant and only really applicable to a portion of the MFP members who are most like you in the way their body responds to food and exercise and frankly that's hard, no impossible, to judge by a profile pic and a diary entry.
    Love this response!