Why the double standard???
Kybelle132
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I have read on here time and time again people being critizised for eating to little between 1000-1200 cals/day (which, trust me I know its not healthy and I myself try not to go under 1200.) My question is why is that so publicy bashed but when people eat 1200-1600 cals/day and then go excerise and burn 400-600 cals per workout no one says a word?? And I see this ALL the time....
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you must be looking in the wrong threads. I have seen multiples times people say the eat 1200 a day but burn 400 and others try to show them how they are netting less then 1200 for the day.0
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you must be looking in the wrong threads. I have seen multiples times people say the eat 1200 a day but burn 400 and others try to show them how they are netting less then 1200 for the day.
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There is no double standard. Both are bashed.0
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I have read on here time and time again people being critizised for eating to little between 1000-1200 cals/day (which, trust me I know its not healthy and I myself try not to go under 1200.) My question is why is that so publicy bashed but when people eat 1200-1600 cals/day and then go excerise and burn 400-600 cals per workout no one says a word?? And I see this ALL the time....
I don't have a double standard. I think it's foolish either way. Unless you're on a medically supervised diet, you should not be NETTING so few calories.
For the record, I think 1200 is still too low for most people.0 -
Hmmm. I've noticed this going back and forth on my news feed. Personally, I don't look at anyone's food diaries and activity logs. And, to be perfectly honest, it's not of interest to me. *shrugs*
The only thing, however, that would ruffle my feathers is if I saw someone posting statuses about wanting to eat a ridiculously low amount of calories a day. Surviving on 600 calories a day isn't cool.
I guess I'm here to observe the comments on this one.0 -
There is no double standard. Both are bashed.
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My calorie goal is to net 2100 calories, for everyone it is different the biggest thing is not to go below your BMR0 -
MFP seems to estimate calories burned at a hilariously high rate. It once claimed I burned almost 900 calories doing 15 minutes of elliptical and a few machines. I did not eat back 900 calories that day.0
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There is no double standard. Both are bashed.
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My calorie goal is to net 2100 calories, for everyone it is different the biggest thing is not to go below your BMR
There isn't a single verified, peer-reviewed medical study saying that eating below your BMR is bad for you. In fact, there are numerous studies showing that eating below your BMR can lead to healthy weight loss.
What you posted is basically a MFP urban legend.0 -
There is no double standard. Both are bashed.
^^This^^
My calorie goal is to net 2100 calories, for everyone it is different the biggest thing is not to go below your BMR
There isn't a single verified, peer-reviewed medical study saying that eating below your BMR is bad for you. In fact, there are numerous studies showing that eating below your BMR can lead to healthy weight loss.
What you posted is basically a MFP urban legend.
I agreeish
Its person to person dependent. It also depends on your end goals and how you go about it0 -
There is no double standard. Both are bashed.
^^This^^
My calorie goal is to net 2100 calories, for everyone it is different the biggest thing is not to go below your BMR
There isn't a single verified, peer-reviewed medical study saying that eating below your BMR is bad for you. In fact, there are numerous studies showing that eating below your BMR can lead to healthy weight loss.
What you posted is basically a MFP urban legend.
I agreeish
Its person to person dependent. It also depends on your end goals and how you go about it
I suspect this is correct as well, though I haven't done the research review to verify none exists. I have upped my net from 1200 calories, and I did start losing at a slower rate. But yay, I'm eating more. Mine is still only at 1400 though. My BMR should be around 1530. Given the exercise I do though, I'm eating anywhere from 1400 to 2000+ calories a day because I eat back my exercise calories.0 -
Hmmm. I've noticed this going back and forth on my news feed. Personally, I don't look at anyone's food diaries and activity logs. And, to be perfectly honest, it's not of interest to me. *shrugs*
The only thing, however, that would ruffle my feathers is if I saw someone posting statuses about wanting to eat a ridiculously low amount of calories a day. Surviving on 600 calories a day isn't cool.
I guess I'm here to observe the comments on this one.
I survive on between 600 and 800 depending on my workouts and I don't have a problem with it so why should you? I'm doing this for me not for anyone else. I don't plan on eating this way for much longer maybe a month or two. I don't encourage anyone else to eat this way I don't see the problem. And if someone asks me what I eat then I tell them, why lie? they can see my diary.
BTW, I have tons of energy, I don't feel hungry and if I do I eat some veggies to compensate.0 -
I think its an individual thing. I am averaging around 900-1050 cal a day. I dont eat back exercise points. In my case, I cant physically eat that much food even if I wanted to. So I make the best choices I can and I try really hard to make my protein goal of at least 70gm day. I am slowly getting there. Once I can eat all my calories in food I will be happy to do so. But not all of us are trying to crash diet or starve to death. I go to the gym regularly and work out at home. I have more energy now than I have had in years. Everyone has to do what works for them. The most important thing is to develop a healthy relationship with food and nutrition. IMHO, of course0
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I have my goal set to NET 1450, I eat usually like 2000-2100 which is right around my TDEE-15-20%, so I just calculate it that way. I have friends on my list that eat below 1200 net. I never comment on their diaries, but I don't bash them. I just don't write good job unless they net more than 1200... which I still sometimes think is low0
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There isn't a single verified, peer-reviewed medical study saying that eating below your BMR is bad for you. In fact, there are numerous studies showing that eating below your BMR can lead to healthy weight loss.
What you posted is basically a MFP urban legend.
You are probably correct. I haven't done the research. However, there ARE plenty of peer-reviewed medical studies that indicate that a modest calorie deficit is more sustainable and leads to less re-gain in the long run than extreme deficits. The numbers people assign to the 'correct' deficit are somewhat arbitrary, but regardless, slow losers usually do better than fast in the long run.
Please note the use of the word 'usually'. There are always exceptions to the rule, and certainly the very obese do well on very low calorie diets when being supervised by a doctor or weight loss specialist. Supervision is important to ensure that the dieter gets the correct ratio of macro and micro nutrients to maintain optimal health.0 -
I'm honestly beginning to think that exercise calories do not equal food calories one to one. Food calories just seem to have more impact on weight loss than burned off exercise calories. Maybe it's because you unconsciously preserve your energy after a workout. I'm not sure. But that's the way it seems to work to me.0
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I don't really think anyone should be critisized for the calories they are eating regardless if they are on high or very low caloric intake or eating their exercise calories back or not. It's irritating that these boards often become a forum for every arm chair expert and fitness trainer in training to "correct" everyone because they didn't do it the right way aka their way. but unless you are my doctor and know the ins and outs of my family and personal medical history you really should stick to a have you tried this... or this worked for me.... approach as everything else is simply arrogant and only really applicable to a portion of the MFP members who are most like you in the way their body responds to food and exercise and frankly that's hard, no impossible, to judge by a profile pic and a diary entry.0
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Well, right or wrong, there are people who have posted their doctor told them they don't have to eat back exercise calories. Except under constant supervision, I don't think anyone's doctor has recommended living on 400 calories a day. So if there is a double standard, it doesn't just exist here.
In fact, before I found this site, I had never heard of eating back exercise calories. All those silly weight loss diets recommended 1200 calories or so plus exercise. Period.0 -
I'm honestly beginning to think that exercise calories do not equal food calories one to one. Food calories just seem to have more impact on weight loss than burned off exercise calories. Maybe it's because you unconsciously preserve your energy after a workout. I'm not sure. But that's the way it seems to work to me.
I thought it was just me! Thank you...eating back exercise cals (even since I started using an HRM) is NOT working for me. I am building muscle mass, but I'm still determined to drop those last 6-9 lbs. I've been patient, but all I've seen is a gradual 2-3 lb gain over the last 6 weeks or so. I recently changed my settings back to "lose 2 lbs a week" and "sedentary", but I think the next step may be to set my cals target at BMR and lot log exercise at all.0 -
I don't really think anyone should be critisized for the calories they are eating regardless if they are on high or very low caloric intake or eating their exercise calories back or not. It's irritating that these boards often become a forum for every arm chair expert and fitness trainer in training to "correct" everyone because they didn't do it the right way aka their way. but unless you are my doctor and know the ins and outs of my family and personal medical history you really should stick to a have you tried this... or this worked for me.... approach as everything else is simply arrogant and only really applicable to a portion of the MFP members who are most like you in the way their body responds to food and exercise and frankly that's hard, no impossible, to judge by a profile pic and a diary entry.0
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I'm honestly beginning to think that exercise calories do not equal food calories one to one. Food calories just seem to have more impact on weight loss than burned off exercise calories. Maybe it's because you unconsciously preserve your energy after a workout. I'm not sure. But that's the way it seems to work to me.
It goes with the saying, you can't out exercise a bad diet. Weight loss has to do with eating a caloric deficit. Period. (Yes I know there are other factors on how well or healthy it is for each individual). Exercise benifits a healthy life style, building muscle and cardio endurance and gives you a bigger window of calorie burns, but it is not necessary to lose weight.0 -
There is no double standard. Both are bashed.
^^This^^
My calorie goal is to net 2100 calories, for everyone it is different the biggest thing is not to go below your BMR
There isn't a single verified, peer-reviewed medical study saying that eating below your BMR is bad for you. In fact, there are numerous studies showing that eating below your BMR can lead to healthy weight loss.
What you posted is basically a MFP urban legend.
You may be right, but I have yet to find any 600 calorie diet in any of the Fitness books I look in for my diet tips. In fact I cannot honestly say I have not see any for less the 2000 calories, I will agree that it is person to person dependant and also to each their own. If you are happy eating 600 calories and you are losing weight than I am definately not 1 to judge. But for me and my body I would not be happy on that type of diet, I would crash and burn and eventually that large meat lovers pizza would be in my belly!0 -
There isn't a single verified, peer-reviewed medical study saying that eating below your BMR is bad for you. In fact, there are numerous studies showing that eating below your BMR can lead to healthy weight loss.
What you posted is basically a MFP urban legend.
You may be right, but I have yet to find any 600 calorie diet in any of the Fitness books I look in for my diet tips. In fact I cannot honestly say I have not see any for less the 2000 calories, I will agree that it is person to person dependant and also to each their own. If you are happy eating 600 calories and you are losing weight than I am definately not 1 to judge. But for me and my body I would not be happy on that type of diet, I would crash and burn and eventually that large meat lovers pizza would be in my belly!
He is right. And he's not saying 'eat 600'. I'm not particularly large, young, male, tall or active and my BMR is over 1400.
You've never seen a diet plan that has you eating less than 2000 calories? I've never seen one that recommends anyone eat that high! Most use 1200 as a sensible floor, like MFP does.0
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