PCOS- What to eat? (Warning Guys TMI)
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I'm PCOS with Insulin Resistance, and when I was pregnant with my daughter, I also had gestational diabetes. Last year, when I went back into weight loss mode (after she turned 2) I put myself back on the diet plan they gave me while I was pregnant with her. It was 3 snacks, with 15g net carbs (carbs - minus fiber), breakfast 30 g carbs, lunch 45 g carbs, and dinner was 60 g carbs. I was also to have protein with every meal/snack, and not to have fruit juices ever, and no cold cereal for breakfast.
Of course, everyone is different, but I wouldn't think that you'd have to go Atkins low carb, but just reduced carbs (I have mine set to 40% right now, instead of the 55% MFP sets it at), and pairing them with protein.
The "diabetic" diet that they are prescribing is not what most doctors prescribe now days.
Atkins is only very low carb for a very short time and it re-aligns the body with the chemical and hormonal responses with in the body.0 -
Low carb will only really help if you're insulin resistant (I've got PCOS, and am not insulin resistant). There are some studies that suggest you should watch the phytoestrogens that you eat (there are lists all over the web of foods that are high in phytoestrogens), but some people say that it won't affect it. My GYN told me that limiting them would help, so I trust he knows what he's talking about.0
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I'm not on a very low carb diet, and I do have insulin resistance with my PCOS. Metformin has really helped to regulate my insulin so I don't have to go extremely low carb and I can lose weight like a normal person. I do eat less carbs than I used to simply because bread and pasta is higher in calories but my diet isn't "low carb" like some people do. I just try to eat good carbs rather than bad carbs (whole wheat bread instead of white, ect...)
I didn't want to have to start taking drugs for the rest of my life.
i would rather adhere to eating proteins, fats and getting my carbs from fruits and vegetables than to start popping pills, which only leads to more pills.
Taking prescription is nothing but a gateway to being on more and more drugs like the Doctors and pharmaceutical companies want you anyway.
I found a doctor that wanted to attack it at the root and actually heal my body, not start giving out prescription band-aids.0 -
I'm PCOS with Insulin Resistance, and when I was pregnant with my daughter, I also had gestational diabetes. Last year, when I went back into weight loss mode (after she turned 2) I put myself back on the diet plan they gave me while I was pregnant with her. It was 3 snacks, with 15g net carbs (carbs - minus fiber), breakfast 30 g carbs, lunch 45 g carbs, and dinner was 60 g carbs. I was also to have protein with every meal/snack, and not to have fruit juices ever, and no cold cereal for breakfast.
Of course, everyone is different, but I wouldn't think that you'd have to go Atkins low carb, but just reduced carbs (I have mine set to 40% right now, instead of the 55% MFP sets it at), and pairing them with protein.
The "diabetic" diet that they are prescribing is not what most doctors prescribe now days.
Atkins is only very low carb for a very short time and it re-aligns the body with the chemical and hormonal responses with in the body.
You have to be careful on diets like Atkins though- while they may be low carb a lot of people experience a jump in triglycerides from being out of balance in their diet.0 -
I read a book, the name escapes me right now but can get it for you, that talked about a study by a doctor at a prestiges hospital that found that taking 1000 - 1200 mg of d-chiro-inositol a day, helped women with PCOS and that something like 80 % ended up pregnant within a year.
I have never been diagnosed with pcos but have had some issues and figured that it couldn't hurt. I had a hard time finding d-chiro-inositol, but after some research learned that it is just a form of inostiol which I had no problem finding online and at Whole Foods. I started taking it and found that my issues lessened.
I’m still not pregnant, but that is due to the lack of a SO who wants kids as much as I do. (If you know anyone, feel free to set me up.)0 -
I have PCOS. I eat few white breads and pastas and rice. I still eat whole grain, and fruit. I dont worry so much about the # of carbs as much as the quality. If she starts you on metformin, that will help with carb cravings. I have lost 184 lbs since I started. Don't go all atkins or anything, just try to make your carbs "better" ones. I keep mine around 150 a day, but that is just coincidence.0
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I have PCOS, was diagnosed over two years ago after a series of menstral issues, cysts, and seeing several doctors for answers. I am very fortunate that I am not insulin resistant (they can find that out with the bloodwork they do). I am currently on a generic form of Yaz to manage my irregular cycle and some of my other symptoms. I found that focusing more of the types of carbs I am eating helps me (stick to mostly less refined carbs like whole grains and veggies) and I also make sure to not go over on carbs as much as possible, better to go over on fat or protein for us I think. I also limit fruit to a max of three servings a day (usually 2 servings) and try to limit sugary and refined carbs. That has helped me a lot. I lose on the slow side, but am making my way to my goal.0
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but there is a good book called The Insulin Resistance Diet Book. It's not even really a diet in the sense that most people think. It's more about balancing carbs and protein. Back when I was going through infertility treatment, I was part of a support group where most of us had PCOS. Quite a few of the ladies there followed the guidelines in that book and found it to be an immense help with their symptoms and weight fluctuations, even the ladies who were not IR..
ETA- Soul Cysters has been around for years, it's where I turned way back when. The support forums have a lot of great advice. http://www.soulcysters.com/0 -
I've managed to lose quite a bit and am not on low carb. I eat low GI which I find better to regulate.
If you're just starting out my advice is to focus on calories figure out the right amount of calories and eat to that. Exercise 30 min a day. Once you're comfortable you can start changing your macros (carbs/proteins/fats) Only thing I would heavily recommend switch to whole wheat. No need to put the horse before the cart.
Again, everyone's body is different. First of all you need to find out whether you truly are insulin resistant. Because if you are, then this is not good advice. If you're insulin resistant, then your body processes protein calories and fat calories VERY differently than it processes carbohydrate calories. So the number of calories does not matter as much as the type of calorie consumed. I ate a calorie deficit for years, thought I was being really good by eating salads & only 1200 calories a day, exercised every day, and still gained weight steadily. Because for people with non-normal metabolisms, it's the TYPE of calorie that makes the difference.
Here is a video by Dr. Mary Vernon, who was one of the pioneers of treating metabolic disorders with diet instead of drugs. She explains it better than I ever could. She also has a series of lectures on youtube, just google her name and "KU lecture."
http://www.diabetesnewsstand.com/vissue/vernon/titlepage.html
Ok everything you've said is me to a T. You're officially my new friend.0 -
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Low carb will only really help if you're insulin resistant (I've got PCOS, and am not insulin resistant). There are some studies that suggest you should watch the phytoestrogens that you eat (there are lists all over the web of foods that are high in phytoestrogens), but some people say that it won't affect it. My GYN told me that limiting them would help, so I trust he knows what he's talking about.
I read that staying away from low-fat dairy is very helpful. But I'm still not ovulating despite only ingesting full-fat dairy for a year or so. So I'm not too sure anymore.0 -
I'm not on a very low carb diet, and I do have insulin resistance with my PCOS. Metformin has really helped to regulate my insulin so I don't have to go extremely low carb and I can lose weight like a normal person. I do eat less carbs than I used to simply because bread and pasta is higher in calories but my diet isn't "low carb" like some people do. I just try to eat good carbs rather than bad carbs (whole wheat bread instead of white, ect...)
I didn't want to have to start taking drugs for the rest of my life.
i would rather adhere to eating proteins, fats and getting my carbs from fruits and vegetables than to start popping pills, which only leads to more pills.
Taking prescription is nothing but a gateway to being on more and more drugs like the Doctors and pharmaceutical companies want you anyway.
I found a doctor that wanted to attack it at the root and actually heal my body, not start giving out prescription band-aids.
That's not true- the metformin is helping me to lose weight and weight loss can reverse your PCOS and insulin resistance. My mom reversed her diabetes by losing weight (and she took Metformin too). Taking medication is not a bad thing and just because you have to take a medication doesn't mean it's a big conspiracy theory by a pharmaceutical company. The root of my weight is the fact that I have insulin resistance (something that runs in my family). The metformin helps with the insulin resistance. I've tried low carb diets, ect before and they did absolutely nothing for me. Metformin was the only thing that worked for me.0 -
Yeah low carb for PCOS. My wife has had it for 15 years. It went undiagnosed for 5 years or so and led to her getting type 2 diabetes, so you're lucky they caught it early. We try to stay below 50g of carbs per meal... although that is really hard if you like carby sides - a cup of rice or pasta is going to take you over that.
Watch yourself for high blood sugars. If your doc will prescribe you a meter, it might not be a bad idea to get one and check now and then. Obviously you don't have to do it all the time like a diabetic, but once a week taking a post-prandial reading 2 hours after dinner to make sure you're in normal ranges wouldn't hurt. You get totally used to the finger pricks after a while. Also lookout for the telltale signs of lethargy or abnormally frequent peeing. If you get these then you might want to go in to your doc and have them test you for insulin resistance (pre diabetes). If you become insulin resistant they will probably put you on oral metformin to control it.0 -
Thanks for all the helpful info, everyone. I really appreciate it! I start on the progesterone tomorrow and then will be going for my fasting blood sugar test. Hopefully all goes well. I think I will lower my carbs at least for a little while until I hear back from the doctor. Thanks again for all the helpful info and I'll def. be looking into soulcyster!0
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I have PCOS as well. When people say "low carb" how low do they mean? If I stay within the carb limits set forth by MFP, is that "low carb"?
Absolutely not!!
The MFP standards, as far as I can tell, are based on the US RDA standards, which are heavily influenced by lobbyists and are very high in carbs. As an example, the corn lobbyists got corn (which any biologist will tell you is obviously a grain, in fact it's the grain we feed our cattle when we want to fatten them up) reclassified as a vegetable by the FDA so people would think it was more healthy to eat... anyway, I would not trust their numbers.
Also, MFP's standards are designed for the "average" person, and if you have PCOS, then you're obviously not average. Even among "normal" people, metabolisms vary widely. I'm sure you've noticed that some people can eat whatever they want and never gain an ounce, while others have to starve themselves. And some people get really cranky if they don't eat regularly, while others can go all day on a single meal. That's because there's a lot of variety in how efficiently people's bodies metabolize their foods.
If you do have PCOS, it is likely that you also have some amount of insulin resistance. The best way to handle this is to keep your blood sugar on an even keel and avoid spikes and crashes. Carbs burn quickly, while protein burns more slowly and steadily. So you will need to get fewer calories from carbohydrates and more from protein. You will also need to make sure and eat more often during the day, so that your blood sugar never gets a chance to tank and cause carb cravings. As I said, every person is different, but my doctor has me eating every 3 hours (6 times a day). I am not allowed to eat more than 10 carbs in a sitting and no more than 25 carbs in a day. And I am expected to eat my body weight in protein each day (around 40g protein per sitting). That works out to a ratio of about 5% carbs, 35% fats, 60% protein. As I said, everyone's metabolism is different, so you may not have to limit yours so severely, but I would recommend changing your MFP goals so that the carb level is a lower percentage.
Just getting on this low-carb, high-protein diet has done wonders for me. Cholesterol went from 210 to 185, I've stopped needing arthritis pain meds, I've stopped having depression and mood swings, and I've lost over 75 lb.
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how do you find out if you are insulin resistant or not?
Ask your doctor to do a test. It will be a fasting glucose test. Here are other ways but involve you buying a blood testing machine and being incredible methodical about charting at all hours of the day.
Yes. This. Do not let your doctor get away with being lazy and doing the simple one-time test. Make him do the full 3-hour test. You should fast all night, come in and get your blood taken, then he should feed you a sugary drink (glucose) and take a blood sample again every hour after that for three hours. That is the only way to get a complete, accurate picture of how your body metabolizes and processes sugars.
Thanks i will try to get this done0 -
PCOS for 7 years...they told me my ovaries look like chips ahoy chocolate chip cookies....ironic right..lol0
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I've seen several people who were concerned about metformin... while I generally try to stay away from the "pop a pill and make it all better" mentality, sometimes your metabolism does need a jump-start and metformin can help. I'd be wary of a doc who says it's *all* you need to do, or who tells you you'll need to take it forever. But of all the drugs you could take, metformin is fairly mild with few side-effects, and is based on a homeopathic remedy, a plant called Galega officinalis (French lilac or goat's rue). It has been used since the Middle Ages to treat diabetes symptoms.0
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