I can't help judging fat people
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I don't. They can't help being that way most times. Whether from medication or injuries which prevent one from being active, I never ever judge.
I am going to correct that sentance. They can't help being that way some times.
Sentence, not "sentance". I apologize for my oh so incorrect grammar.....oh lordy lordy what a sin!
Though I do apologize for the spelling error, I was not correcting your grammar.....0 -
Seriously...judging is going to happen. Whether or not you open your mouth about it or post something about is entirely where the issue is
took the words right outta my mouth0 -
Wow......harsh, much?
OP, you're not an awful person, you're simply human and you posted on here because you felt badly about what you're feeling. No one is perfect, including those calling you a **** or an *kitten*.
Everyone judges, right or wrong, and anyone who says they don't is a liar. It's human nature, but you have the common sense and decency to not run up and spout off to people that you think they're making bad choices.
Don't be so hard on yourself.0 -
NEWSFLASH: Pity and compassion often stem from a sense of superiority.
It's still judging, people.0 -
I think you brought a very honest post here. Maybe the word judge sounds critical. Maybe you are evaluating and considering what got yourself and others obese. When I go to the grocery store, especially Trader Joes, I look at what healthy appearing people are choosing and sometimes I get ideas. At the commissary where I do the majoriety of my shopping I see very obese people choosing high calorie processed foods that are not healthy. I also see parents buying a lot of sugary drinks and cereals for their children. For a nation that is so smart we sure have been mislead by the food industry.0
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I feel your pain, OP. You want to help them. You feel like you've had a great revelation and you want to pass it along, but you can't without hurting feelings. Even mentioning that you feel like this has complete strangers, not even the people you'd like to tell, with their panties in a bunch.
Why might you feel superior? Well, easy. You've surpassed them, at least physically. Now you wonder what it is about them that keeps them from seeing the light.
So let's just let these good people here who are without sin cast that first stone toward you.
Yes! I think using the word "judging" is what got you, here. But it got people's attention. It sounds like you actually feel genuinely empathetic and frustrated more than anything, actually. If people actually read and try to UNDERSTAND what your saying, I don't think they'd be so offended. You're obviously not a bad person if you wish you could help them. Sounds like you're actually a very good and HONEST person. Good for you0 -
If this is how you feel, then be yourself.
I wish everyone would make a healthy change in their life.
Sadly this will not happen.
I push forward in my own life hoping to be a positive role model.
I don't judge others for their choices.
Nobody is perfect.
Happy you have made a healthy choice for yourself.
Wish the best for you!0 -
Personally, I don't think that your post was offensive. I happen to agree that sometimes I can't help but judge somebody for their weight. If you can't take care of your body what do you have? So yes, I find it mildly annoying when I see an extremely overweight person reaching for the donuts and not a healthier choice. However, I absolutely applaud and look up to those who are working hard to get in shape and take care of their bodies no matter what size they are. I just think one should treat their bodies with more respect than feeding it with junk food and sitting around all day.0
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I don't think you are an *kitten* or anything of the sort but can also see how people can read this and think you are. I understand where your coming from but I think having compassion is the most important thing you can do. Be proud of yourself for changing but understand to each their own and you yourself had to make the decision to change. Maybe they will get there, maybe they wont.0
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From my side and from someone who is working on it, I wonder who is judging me and I wonder if they know how I'm trying to change for the better so that I'm not so offensive to the eyes. I was at Zumba last night and because I got there late I had to be in the middle and wondered just what those people behind me was thinking when they see me try but not quite getting everything because I still can't do it all, but in my head I'm saying I may not do it now but I will get there, yes I will get there. But will they care that I'm working on it or will they judge me because I got this heavy to begin with.0
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Dude, prepare yourself for the flame spray of offended. You crossed the "you hurt my feelings line" of someone I am sure. Good luck to you.
LOL DOH!!!!
I judge smokers fo sure! UGH!!! ex smokers are the worst, arent we?
I feel bad for bigger people because it's mostly ignorance. They have no clue why they are big, they just think they are and that's that. It takes an epiphany for people that have lived that way for so long. It does make me cringe to see what they have in their baskets but I don't judge, I wish them knowledge and motivation, as well as great support when and if they do realize they have control over it.0 -
I feel your pain, OP. You want to help them. You feel like you've had a great revelation and you want to pass it along, but you can't without hurting feelings. Even mentioning that you feel like this has complete strangers, not even the people you'd like to tell, with their panties in a bunch.
Why might you feel superior? Well, easy. You've surpassed them, at least physically. Now you wonder what it is about them that keeps them from seeing the light.
So let's just let these good people here who are without sin cast that first stone toward you.
Ditto.
OP, I don't think you're rude for posting this, as I've seen a lot of asshat things posted on these boards that go far beyond. It's very disconcerting to look at others and realize where you once were. If you're anything like me, you never admitted to yourself, even in your head how bad your body and mind had gotten. Looking at others who have the same shape you started with or who breathe in the way you used to when walking from the car to the house really makes it hit home, and then you start judging yourself, which leads to thoughts about what's stopping them. I'm glad you don't say what you're thinking, which says more about your character than your "judging". I just wish people on here wouldn't get butthurt about generalizations not directed at them.0 -
It's awful isn't it? I hope they can't tell.
I see them gasping for breath at the top of the stairs or squeezing into a seat on the bus. I look at all the dreadful choices in the shopping basket.
Just a few short months ago it would have been me and now the boot's on the other foot. I recognise that I've still some way to go before I hit 'healthy weight' myself but if I see morbidly obese people I feel like going up to them and saying 'hey, I've lost five stone so far this year - you could do it too'
Of course I don't actually do it. I'm the same with smokers having given that up six years ago.
I feel guilty for judging - after all, I don't know the reasons for a person's body shape - but it's shocking to be seeing people as others would have seen me and sure as hell another motivator for me 'never going back'
I don't know that I would call what you are doing "judging" per se, as it doesn't seem like you're really thinking it with a condescending or condemning attitude. You simply remember what it was like to be in their position, and you know how much better you feel now. You just wish for them to be able to experience that same feeling. However, you are wise to keep those thoughts to yourself. Unless a person has come to a point where they really want to change their habits, such thoughts are not generally well received.0 -
I don't feel superior, far from it. There but for the grace of God and all that...
As I said above it shocks me to feel this way and of course I would never communicate such thoughts out loud. What it does do though is make me realise how I must have looked to people for all those years when I was kidding myself there was nothing wrong.
My post certainly wasn't intended to be offensive, just honest, and it wasnt intended to demotivate anybody. Quite the opposite, people (obviously awful people like me) do judge wether we like it or not - I'm not going to let them look at me in that way again.
You're saying you would never communication your thoughts out loud, but you just did! I don't really understand?0 -
From my side and from someone who is working on it, I wonder who is judging me and I wonder if they know how I'm trying to change for the better so that I'm not so offensive to the eyes. I was at Zumba last night and because I got there late I had to be in the middle and wondered just what those people behind me was thinking when they see me try but not quite getting everything because I still can't do it all, but in my head I'm saying I may not do it now but I will get there, yes I will get there. But will they care that I'm working on it or will they judge me because I got this heavy to begin with.
You made me smile really big! Thanks0 -
As I said above it shocks me to feel this way and of course I would never communicate such thoughts out loud.
so wait is this entire message board is in your head?
anywho, that's good for you that you were able to decide to make the changes you needed to make. how long did it take YOU to get there?
perhaps it's possible that other people come to decisions and calls to action on their own time?0 -
I'm sorry that you hurt so many people's very fragile feelings.
Seriously, all of you, toughen up a little. I hate to break it to you, but THE WHOLE WORLD judges you- this guy just has the balls to admit it.
I weighed almost 200 pounds in high school, at 5 feet tall. At 135 now, having overcome binging, deprivation, a drug problem and obesity, I have earned the right to say "Yes, I AM better than you, and I'm not going to feel bad about it". I judge the middle age fat ladies wheeling around Wal-Mart throwing cupcakes and Doritos into their cart. I judge the people that are obviously overfeeding their kids. That doesn't mean I run up to them and tell them what terrible people they are, but yes, sometimes, I do think less of people who have given up and accepted an unhealthy life because they're too lazy to give a damn.0 -
People are ****s. You're doing nothing that the majority of people don't do. You're not being rude, you don't say anything to them. You're being honest in a place where most people would rather b!tch at you for something they do themselves. I know I do it. I HATE going to the grocery store and seeing someone using a motorized cart just because they are too big to walk around the store...especially when I know that if they DID walk, they could lose some weight.
It's funny that people are judging you for what you said about judging others. F*cking hypocrites.0 -
you have NO idea where someone is in their life. you have no idea where they have been or where they are going. if you see someone huffing and puffing at the top of the stairs - hey, they took the STAIRS! you don't know if that's the biggest NSV they've ever had. you don't know if they were once 600lbs. and are only NOW down enough to WALK the stairs.
i can understand that fear can show itself as anger very easily - and extereme judgement is actually a manifestation of that anger - but if you're having that much trouble, then might i suggest therapy.
healthy bodies are nothing without healthy brains and healthy sense-of self inside them.0 -
I don't. They can't help being that way most times. Whether from medication or injuries which prevent one from being active, I never ever judge.
I am going to correct that sentance. They can't help being that way some times.
Sentence, not "sentance". I apologize for my oh so incorrect grammar.....oh lordy lordy what a sin!
Though I do apologize for the spelling error, I was not correcting your grammar.....
I was joking. Doesn't translate well on the screen. Bleh.0 -
The only time I judge other fat people negatively, keeping in mind I'm still one myself, is when they park in a handicapped spot and take it away from the legitimately handicapped who might really need to park there. But that goes for skinny people who abuse those parking spots too.
However, I don't think we can help but make a snap judgements of other people. It's part of how humans relate to each other. What you do with that judgement is what matters.0 -
When I see an overly obese person I'm not repulsed the way you seem to be.
I never said I was repulsed and certainly didn't intend to convey that, though I think another poster might have suggested as much.0 -
I just read the first page haha so sorry if this is a repeat.
There is a huge difference between *thinking* and saying. I'm sure its mostly out of good intentions that you would want to say something, but you know with your heart that's inappropriate. Don't be so harsh on yourself! You're good!
I know what you mean 100% and wish people were more enlightened. What I get upset about is when they try to argue that they are victims of fast food and high fructose corn syrup. I think these are good opportunities to speak your mind about your own weight loss etc etc. But in the store, remember you don't know the other side to it. It could be they are in the process of losing a huge amount of weight, but wanted to treat themselves once...or like my family, had a tragic loss and its really hard to "be hard" on yourself with diet if its not embedded yet. We are all at different stages of self control and you can't judge that by one shopping cart.0 -
This forum has really opened my eyes to how much some folks worry about other people.
"It irks me that people want to lose weight for any other reason than health"
"You're not curvy you're fat"
"I want to tell people to lose weight"
If someone is 600 lbs and wants to call themselves curvy, I could give a *kitten*.
If someone's motivation is different than mine, I could give a *kitten*.
If someone doesn't want to lose weight, none of my d*mn business.0 -
you have NO idea where someone is in their life. you have no idea where they have been or where they are going. if you see someone huffing and puffing at the top of the stairs - hey, they took the STAIRS! you don't know if that's the biggest NSV they've ever had. you don't know if they were once 600lbs. and are only NOW down enough to WALK the stairs.
i can understand that fear can show itself as anger very easily - and extereme judgement is actually a manifestation of that anger - but if you're having that much trouble, then might i suggest therapy.
healthy bodies are nothing without healthy brains and healthy sense-of self inside them.
I don't think he's scared of the fat people. And I'm pretty sure he could out run them if he were.
You should re read his OP. Your reaction is extreme considering how mild the OP is.0 -
It's fine, it's common, and I think you deserve kudos for admitting it.... but that doesn't make it right or good to continue to allow that to rule you. Dorkaleena has some very good points. Maybe you should try and become friends with someone that repulses you--they might be able to help you get over your issues, and you might be able to help them get healthier.
This whole heartedly.
There is no point in bashing the OP for a trait that he finds disgusting in himself. It's neither helpful nor does bashing a basher make you a better person.0 -
You are the reason why people sometimes give up. Guess what? Maybe that fat person is walking everyday, running and eating better. Why don't you wait until they live with you, see them eat fried chicken and donuts all day and night before saying anything. You suck and I hope you catch a charlie horse.0
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And in turn I judge you for judging other people and thus everyone will eventually be judged unless the initial judger does not judge.0
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I wonder if someone saw me getting on a bus they would think the same thing. Even though I have changed my diet, and I exercise every single day of my life, I still get out of breath when I walk (especially if there is a hill). You SHOULDN'T even have posted this. This is the kind of thing that someone might see and just give up. Especially someone like me who has over 100lbs to go!! This post isn't motivational or supportive.
This guy speaks for all the a*sholes of the world (though I'm sure there are a lot), and who cares what they think about you getting on the bus. If anything, you should feel sad for the OP. Don't let it discourage you or make you think everyone is judging you because they are not.0 -
Not cool.
I see a morbidly obese person as, well...a person. It doesn't bother me they are large, out of breath, or anything like that, even driving around on those little carts in the grocery store. My first thought is usually "I wonder how they got that way"? "Is there anything I can do to help them"? The thing is, its probably not my place so I don't do anything. Maybe they are obese from a physical injury, maybe it was emotional issues, maybe its a medical reason...maybe maybe maybe. And see thats the thing. we DONT know the whole story. That's why we shouldn't judge.0
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