BMI Tool -- BS!
half_moon
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Does anybody else feel that the BMI charts are out of wack?
I am 5'4" and apparently it would be in the healthy range if I weighed 107. I weigh 165 now and am already feeling like I am not at an "unhealthy" state. To be "healthy", I have to weigh under 145? It just sounds ridiculous. I am a curvy person, and though my goal weight is around there, I don't feel that I am "unhealthy" now.
If I weighed 107, knowing my body and shape, I would probably be in the hospital with an IV or look extremely underweight. Does anybody else feel the same as I do about this?
I am 5'4" and apparently it would be in the healthy range if I weighed 107. I weigh 165 now and am already feeling like I am not at an "unhealthy" state. To be "healthy", I have to weigh under 145? It just sounds ridiculous. I am a curvy person, and though my goal weight is around there, I don't feel that I am "unhealthy" now.
If I weighed 107, knowing my body and shape, I would probably be in the hospital with an IV or look extremely underweight. Does anybody else feel the same as I do about this?
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No. BMI is not a great tool for health.0
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BMI is a guide. It's not one size fits all. It depends on your frame size and your activity levels, how much muscle you have vs fat etc.
When I was uber fit, doing lots of kickboxing, mountain biking and strength training, I weighed 11 and a half stone, was a size UK 10 and could kick some serious butt. But the doctor told me I was overweight!0 -
Great? Really?
I am 6'2 and have always been well built. According to my BMI I should be between 12 and 14 stone.
I have been 13 stone before now and looked like I had AIDS. And I was FAR from healthy.
HAHA Sorry misread, I thought you said IS a great tool
Now I feel like a great tool!0 -
I don't put much stock in BMI, either.
Body fat percentage, hip-to-waist ratio, fitness/endurance tests, and frame size are some good tools to go by, but not necessarily to be used on their own, either.0 -
I misread her comment, too!! Haha.
It's good to know. I just check it out and blanched. Screw you, BMI!0 -
The BMI is not the most accurate tool, but the weight ranges are based on your frame size. I am 5'3", and according to the charts I should weigh anywhere from around 100 lbs-140 lbs. I have a larger frame, so a good weight for my body type is 130-140 lbs, but I am sure for small framed people 100-110 would be more appropriate.0
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Umm, you're looking at the minimum. It would actually be unhealthy for someone your height to be 107. The range for normal weight is 108-145. You wouldn't want to get very close to the 108 because then you would be borderline underweight. Sure BMI doesn't account for different bodytypes; it's all averages, but I think it's good for getting an idea of where you should be to stay healthy weight wise.0
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The BMI doesn't mean any individual at a given height could be any weight that is a healthy BMI. In order for me to get into the upper range of my BMI I have to be under 24% body fat, which is not particularly fat. But the majority of people can and should aim for a weight somewhere in that range. Maybe your goal weight should be the upper range too. Does it mean you'd be unhealthy above a BMI of 25? Not necessarily. But could you stand to keep getting fitter until you're at 25 or less? Probably... in most cases.0
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It's just an average. It's a just tool. Not a set in stone guide to stress about! :bigsmile:
My husband falls in the high end of his range and I fall in the low end of mine. It depends on bone structure, muscle mass and all sorts of other variables. Only you can decide what is right for you. :flowerforyou:0 -
The BMI does not apply to people who work out, especially strength training, Michael Jordan was 6'5 and 240, according to the BMI he is obese....Really?0
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I guess I'll just have to wait until I'm down there. I can't tell if I'm big boned or just fat. Or fluffy?0
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BMI is crap and a lot of good medical professionals think so too.
At 20lbs over my BMI I look good, healthy and certainly not 20lbs overweight!
BMI should be scraped, its making perfectly normal healthy people think they are obese like a good friend of mine!!0 -
I don't like BMI. It was originally developed as a formula to assess the average person, not those with higher percentages of lean body mass. Additionally, the BMI formula dates back to the 1800s!! I think the average person was a little slimmer back then. In my nutrition classes we do often use BMI and it continues to be used in many settings to help assess patients, but I don't think anyone should get too focused on that number. Something like a lipids panel or a Chem-7 would be a better assessment of health. Or, looking at body composition with a DEXA scan or Bod Pod.0
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I used to believe in the BMI until an uber-fit colleague at work who does triathalons got a BMI score of 26.5 and was "overweight". I think we should be able to tell whether our weight looks / feels right without the BMI.0
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I guess I'll just have to wait until I'm down there. I can't tell if I'm big boned or just fat. Or fluffy?
Lol the easiest way to tell your frame size http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/17182.htm0 -
I too think BMI is rubbish!!... We are all different & what suits one doesn't suit another!!0
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Interesting subject.
I lost weight to get below 25 bmi. That was my "goal"
I have never been as light as I am now. Now I'm just training and getting fitter.
Numbers are funny. 1 minute it's a measure of how much you weigh then it's a time to run 5k or lift at the gym.0 -
What is hysterical about the BMI crap is that my thin 6'4 son get a BMI saying he is overweight. Total BS. We changed his doctor when she said that even though he looks this the charts say he is overweight. Can't trust a doctor who doesn't trust her own eyes over a damn chart. He has always been in the 99+ percentile for height and weight.
Me, on the other hand. I don't need a number to tell me I'm fat. But my goal weight is the upper limit of "normal" I've been at 155 before. About 30 years ago. I got to that way by vomiting everything I ate (I called it the Karen Carpenter Diet minus the ipecac) . I have no plans to return to that insanity.
Even my doctor think shooting for the middle of the so-called healthy range would be unhealthy.
According to the BMI chart my trainer is obese. But the dude is like 10% body fat. Quads like tree trunks and his neck is as thick as my thigh.
The way I figure it, if your BMI is 30 and you have six pack abs, BMI is BS.0 -
BMI was originally intended to compare populations as a whole (and I'd even question its usefulness there), not individuals. I don't consider it useful or applicable to most individuals and I certainly don't find it of much use for myself. My target weight is at the very high end of what BMI considers the "Healthy" range - if I were anywhere toward the middle/low end, I'd look like a sickly bag of bones. A much better statistic to consider is your bodyfat percentage.0
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According to the BMI, 10 out of 11 of the guys from Ocean's 11 are either overweight or obese -- Brad Pitt is overweight and George Clooney is obese. That should tell you about how useful the BMI is for people who are actually fit (read: have any amount of muscle at all).0
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I'm five foot one 1/2. Using the BMI calculator, when I weighed 270, I was SUPER morbidly obese.
At my current weight of 255, I am merely morbidly obese.
Lovely.
Oh, it gets worse. At my goal weight of 135, I am STILL considered overweight!
My IDEAL weight is 100 pounds?!!
Bullsh*t.0 -
I'm five foot one 1/2. Using the BMI calculator, when I weighed 270, I was SUPER morbidly obese.
At my current weight of 255, I am merely morbidly obese.
Lovely.
Oh, it gets worse. At my goal weight of 135, I am STILL considered overweight!
My IDEAL weight is 100 pounds?!!
Bullsh*t.
I am right there with you, give or take adjusting a few numbers.
Starting weight - 230lbs.
Goal weight - 150lbs.
Still "overweight" according to BMI standards. OH WELL! I have curves, dang it! =P0 -
If I weighed 100 pounds, I'd look like a fat-azzed little boy.0
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I have said this before. The BMI tool is over 100 years old and is a load of crap. When I was in the Army I weighed 200-205 lbs with body fat range of 15-17% But according to the BMI I was obese. 15% BF is a great BF so I say if you fall under the "normal" frame go ahead and use if not, like me, just ignore it and any doctor that uses it like a bible.0
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I think it provides a good guideline. It's not a value written in stone. Normally the "healthy" BMI range has a 30- 40 lb spread. It's a range to account for individual differences.
I'm 5'7" and weigh 154 I'm still chubby and just within the normal BMI range.0 -
I didn't read the comments yet, but doesn't the BMI have a 35 pound range, so that means depending on body type your healthy place could be somewhere different on the chart. No need to be at the low end if that's not right for you (clearly it would not be). It's just a guideline for anyone that falls on either end of the extreme to stay within the healthy range. One person would not be at the right weight within a 35 pound range. I would think the range means different people are healthy at the right place for them within that range. We are all different.0
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I'm 5.8 and at 200 I'm obese it's crap0
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I'm going to disagree with the majority and say that, for the most part, BMI is a very useful tool. Here's why
1) BMI is designed to cover a range of frame sizes and body types. It accounts for fine boned people that weigh less naturally, and larger framed people that don't. Prior to the adoption of BMI, the standard was, for women: at 5' you should weigh 100 lbs. add 5 lbs for every inch thereafter. A 5'3" woman should weigh 115. Ridiculous.
2) BMI is used every day to assess millions of Americans, the vast majority of whom exercise sporadically or not at all. It is a very useful tool for these people.
3) it is expensive and impractical to measure body fat in a medical setting.
4) the only people for whom BMI doesn't work are athletes and very fit people. These people are obviously not overweight. No reasonable medical professional will think so.0 -
Most people are saying to measure your body fat %, but most of those are complete nonsense. The scale cannot possibly measure Body fat, there is no scientific basis in that. And doing it by measurement will give you completely different results as well, even the caliper test could be wrong (what if a person loses fat, but has loose skin, you see what I'm saying). Most people do not have access to a regular dunk test, which is the only accurate way to measure it.
You know your own body. Eat smart, lift weights, be active. Take your measurements, watch your progress in the mirror, and watch how the fit of your clothing changes.
And as you are moving along in this process, you will probably get lots of great feedback from your husband.0
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